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thanosibe 10/16/19 3:12:36 PM #52:	Paper_Okami posted... lmao dril is a satirical account i not sure how you do not understand that people are mad because bush did shit that cost the lives of many innocents and was not punished at all for it. How do you not understand this How does Ellen being friends or talking to Bush effect your life and opinions in anyway? And if none, then why it is so upsetting that people are talking time out of their day to go online and directly criticize Ellen for who she associates with? Ellen talking to Bush doesn't invalidate you or others' opinion of Bush. In your own words; how do you not understand this? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:928847950] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted... </cite> <quote>lmao dril is a satirical account i not sure how you do not understand that people are mad because bush did shit that cost the lives of many innocents and was not punished at all for it. How do you not understand this </quote>How does Ellen being friends or talking to Bush effect your life and opinions in anyway? And if none, then why it is so upsetting that people are talking time out of their day to go online and directly criticize Ellen for who she associates with? Ellen talking to Bush doesn't invalidate you or others' opinion of Bush. In your own words; how do you not understand this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/16/19 3:13:31 PM #53:	UnfairRepresent posted... Because people like to pick "Sides " and 100% love their side and 100% hate the other as a tribe Sports and politics and the media fuel this concept too so the notion of people who have different views being friends bothers people How many people have you seen on Facebook blocking friends for being Trump or NRA supporters This so hard. Granted, I'm not sure if it's stronger on the left or they're just more vocal about it. Paper_Okami posted... Yeah imagine being mad about someone who tries to position herself as "progressive" making friends with a man responsible for the death of millions and acting like he's just a harmless old grandpa. Shut the fuck up ...he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office which, among other things, murdered a wedding procession. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:928847992] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Because people like to pick "Sides " and 100% love their side and 100% hate the other as a tribe Sports and politics and the media fuel this concept too so the notion of people who have different views being friends bothers people How many people have you seen on Facebook blocking friends for being Trump or NRA supporters </quote> This so hard. Granted, I'm not sure if it's stronger on the left or they're just more vocal about it. Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah imagine being mad about someone who tries to position herself as "progressive" making friends with a man responsible for the death of millions and acting like he's just a harmless old grandpa. Shut the fuck up </quote> ...he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office which, among other things, murdered a wedding procession.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 10/16/19 3:25:18 PM #55:	Zeus posted... he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office whic lmfao nice whataboutism Obama is garbage too Bush literally started wars that were ILLEGAL under international law there was no actual real good reason to start those wars I mean Trump says a lot of racist shit. If you support Trump you are passively at best, and actively at worst supporting those statements. Yeah, why the fuck wouldn't someone want to be friends with a someone who supports him. I just don't get it. He did it anyway. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928848445] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office whic</quote> lmfao nice whataboutism Obama is garbage too Bush literally started wars that were ILLEGAL under international law there was no actual real good reason to start those wars I mean Trump says a lot of racist shit. If you support Trump you are passively at best, and actively at worst supporting those statements. Yeah, why the fuck wouldn't someone want to be friends with a someone who supports him. I just don't get it. He did it anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 3:27:43 PM #56:	I want you to picture a prominent figure well known for conservative views hanging out with Obama. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928848536] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>I want you to picture a prominent figure well known for conservative views hanging out with Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kensaimage 10/16/19 3:27:53 PM #57:	EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. <cite>Kensaimage posted [p:928848545] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/16/19 3:29:28 PM #58:	Paper_Okami posted... Zeus posted... he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office whic lmfao nice whataboutism Obama is garbage too Bush literally started wars that were ILLEGAL under international law there was no actual real good reason to start those wars He did it anyway. "International law" is a nebulous concept lacking even more in substance than it does in enforcement. More importantly, looking at historical precedent isn't a "whataboutism," it's being aware that history is a fucking thing. And the US is frequently condemned for its military actions throughout the world. Pretending that this is somehow unique is the height of foolishness. Again, why single out Bush when every president is guilty of illicit military actions? Why is Bush special? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:928848603] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>he was an American president, kinda goes with the territory. Are you also upset about her being friends with Obama? Because he was also responsible for millions of deaths, including countless women and children killed by the drone program he massively ramped up while in office whic</quote> lmfao nice whataboutism Obama is garbage too Bush literally started wars that were ILLEGAL under international law there was no actual real good reason to start those wars He did it anyway. </quote> "International law" is a nebulous concept lacking even more in substance than it does in enforcement. More importantly, looking at historical precedent isn't a "whataboutism," it's being aware that history is a fucking thing. And the US is frequently condemned for its military actions throughout the world. Pretending that this is somehow unique is the height of foolishness. Again, why single out Bush when every president is guilty of illicit military actions? Why is Bush special?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 10/16/19 3:31:27 PM #59:	DuranOfForcena posted... well, that's the difference between an idealist and a realist you seem more like a nihilist than a realist. people have come together and made a difference before, and they can again. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:928848676] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>well, that's the difference between an idealist and a realist</quote> you seem more like a nihilist than a realist. people have come together and made a difference before, and they can again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 3:32:10 PM #60:	Because bush is one who this fucking topic is about not that difficult to understand. Zeus posted... Pretending that this is somehow unique is the height of foolishness. lmfao not once did i act like this was "unique" You fence sitters are an absolute joke. It's so easy to feel smug and superior when you refuse to have concrete views of your own. Also when a legal expert John Chilcot did an inquiry into the Iraq war and found that international organizations had been undermined and there was no justification for the war far from Nebulous which was only true if you are a smug, misinformed individual. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928848714] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Because bush is one who this fucking topic is about not that difficult to understand. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Pretending that this is somehow unique is the height of foolishness.</quote> lmfao not once did i act like this was "unique" You fence sitters are an absolute joke. It's so easy to feel smug and superior when you refuse to have concrete views of your own. Also when a legal expert John Chilcot did an inquiry into the Iraq war and found that international organizations had been undermined and there was no justification for the war far from Nebulous which was only true if you are a smug, misinformed individual. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 3:32:18 PM #61:	Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928848718] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:34:17 PM #62:	Intro2Logic posted... Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? Everyone --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928848802] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> Everyone</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 10/16/19 3:35:11 PM #63:	UnfairRepresent posted... Because people like to pick "Sides " and 100% love their side and 100% hate the other as a tribe this, and it's ridiculous. --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:928848842] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Because people like to pick "Sides " and 100% love their side and 100% hate the other as a tribe </quote> this, and it's ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 3:35:18 PM #64:	UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? Everyone Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to? --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928848845] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> Everyone</quote> Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:37:01 PM #65:	Intro2Logic posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? Everyone Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to? Hopefully? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928848923] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> Everyone</quote> Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to?</quote> Hopefully?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 3:37:37 PM #66:	UnfairRepresent posted... Everyone you do fucked up shit, and you lose your right to being treated civilly --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928848948] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone</quote> you do fucked up shit, and you lose your right to being treated civilly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 3:38:41 PM #67:	UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? Everyone Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to? Hopefully? Hell fucking no it wasn't. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928848989] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> Everyone</quote> Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to?</quote> Hopefully?</quote> Hell fucking no it wasn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 3:38:41 PM #68:	stoltenberg11 posted... this, and it's ridiculous. lmao at the "enlightened fence sitting" the side that committed fucking war crimes is the bad side how difficult is this to understand? --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928848990] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>stoltenberg11 posted... </cite> <quote>this, and it's ridiculous.</quote> lmao at the "enlightened fence sitting" the side that committed fucking war crimes is the bad side how difficult is this to understand? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:48:38 PM #70:	Intro2Logic posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Intro2Logic posted... Kensaimage posted... EvenSpoonier posted... Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people. This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. Civility for who? Everyone Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to? Hopefully? Hell fucking no it wasn't. ok? So why does that mean it's wrong for other people to be civil human beings? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928849384] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>Kensaimage posted...</cite> <quote>EvenSpoonier posted... </cite> <quote>Forgive me if I can't see anything wrong with treating the opposition like people.</quote> This right here. Civility is what its called. Its something this country clearly lost. </quote> Civility for who?</quote> Everyone</quote> Is that a standard George W. Bush and his actions in office adhered to?</quote> Hopefully?</quote> Hell fucking no it wasn't.</quote> ok? So why does that mean it's wrong for other people to be civil human beings?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 10/16/19 3:48:50 PM #71:	Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:928849392] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 10/16/19 3:50:23 PM #72:	thanosibe posted... How does Ellen being friends or talking to Bush effect your life and opinions in anyway? And if none, then why it is so upsetting that people are talking time out of their day to go online and directly criticize Ellen for who she associates with? Wtf kind of arbitrary metric for criticism is that? How do people criticizing Ellen affect your life? And if none, why are you posting about it? --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:928849462] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>How does Ellen being friends or talking to Bush effect your life and opinions in anyway? And if none, then why it is so upsetting that people are talking time out of their day to go online and directly criticize Ellen for who she associates with?</quote> Wtf kind of arbitrary metric for criticism is that? How do people criticizing Ellen affect your life? And if none, why are you posting about it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 3:50:54 PM #73:	UnfairRepresent posted... So why does that mean it's wrong for other people to be civil human beings? Being civil or polite doesn't require you to call them a friend. And I think there ought to be social consequences - because we know there will never be legal ones - when someone is incivil on the scale of George W. Bush. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928849477] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>So why does that mean it's wrong for other people to be civil human beings?</quote> Being civil or polite doesn't require you to call them a friend. And I think there ought to be social consequences - because we know there will never be legal ones - when someone is incivil on the scale of George W. Bush.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:51:36 PM #74:	Smashingpmkns posted... Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best. It's two dudes at a baseball game Anyone mad them for being friends is intellectually juvenile --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928849498] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best.</quote> It's two dudes at a baseball game Anyone mad them for being friends is intellectually juvenile</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/16/19 3:54:22 PM #75:	Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:928849612] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 3:54:39 PM #76:	Smashingpmkns posted... Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best. Unfair is always intellectually dishonest at best --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928849623] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Framing this as only a difference of political ideologies is intellectually dishonest at best.</quote> Unfair is always intellectually dishonest at best </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:55:54 PM #77:	Antifar posted... Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them? Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928849668] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them?</quote> Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/16/19 3:56:48 PM #78:	UnfairRepresent posted... Antifar posted... Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them? Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:928849694] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them?</quote> Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them</quote> George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 3:58:52 PM #79:	Antifar posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Antifar posted... Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them? Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise. What non political action did Bush take to make you outraged at being his friend? Drinking beer? You're being ridiculous. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928849771] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them?</quote> Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them</quote> George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise.</quote> What non political action did Bush take to make you outraged at being his friend? Drinking beer? You're being ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 10/16/19 4:00:01 PM #80:	I think I would stop hanging out with someone if they were responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in a war that they started under false pretenses Thats just me though, obviously some people are totally cool with that --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:928849815] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>I think I would stop hanging out with someone if they were responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of civilians in a war that they started under false pretenses Thats just me though, obviously some people are totally cool with that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/16/19 4:05:52 PM #81:	UnfairRepresent posted... Antifar posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Antifar posted... Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them? Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise. What non political action did Bush take to make you outraged at being his friend? I want everyone to notice the elision UR performs here. We go from "political opinions" to "actions," which UR turns, unprompted, into "non-political actions." It's a neat rhetorical trick that wipes away the idea that political actions (I.e. The things Bush did as holder of one of the world's most powerful offices) might be taken into consideration, at which point he ludicrously suggests that my issue with George W. Bush is that he drinks beer. (To my knowledge, he hasn't done so for decades, but that's beside the point.) It's very clever, I'll give you that, but you're gonna have to waste someone else's time from now on. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:928849998] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Is there anything one of your friends could do that would cause you to stop hanging out with them?</quote> Sure but have a different political opinion to me isnt one of them</quote> George Bush's actions, not his opinions, are what's being criticized. Please stop pretending otherwise.</quote> What non political action did Bush take to make you outraged at being his friend? </quote> I want everyone to notice the elision UR performs here. We go from "political opinions" to "actions," which UR turns, unprompted, into "non-political actions." It's a neat rhetorical trick that wipes away the idea that political actions (I.e. The things Bush did as holder of one of the world's most powerful offices) might be taken into consideration, at which point he ludicrously suggests that my issue with George W. Bush is that he drinks beer. (To my knowledge, he hasn't done so for decades, but that's beside the point.) It's very clever, I'll give you that, but you're gonna have to waste someone else's time from now on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 4:15:02 PM #82:	"You're so clever that I am not going to answer basic questions" yeah ok Didnt think you could either Refusing to be friends with someone because they have different opinions is silly Being mad other people with differing opinions are friends is just ridiculous The tribal side malarkey is nonsense. People are people --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928850348] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>"You're so clever that I am not going to answer basic questions" yeah ok Didnt think you could either Refusing to be friends with someone because they have different opinions is silly Being mad other people with differing opinions are friends is just ridiculous The tribal side malarkey is nonsense. People are people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smashingpmkns 10/16/19 4:17:13 PM #84:	Actual footage of Unfair right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2u5Fft0pvc" data-time=" --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:928850434] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Actual footage of Unfair right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2u5Fft0pvc" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/16/19 4:23:42 PM #85:	UnfairRepresent posted... "You're so clever that I am not going to answer basic questions" yeah ok Didnt think you could either Why should he or anyone else answer questions so fundamentally detached from the arguments they're making? He didn't say anything about Bush's non-political actions; you know that is not the source of his complaint. Your decision to answer that question is so you can ignore the content of his points. I get that your whole shtick is drawing people into increasingly circular and inane arguments, but some of us have self-respect. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928850699] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>"You're so clever that I am not going to answer basic questions" yeah ok Didnt think you could either </quote> Why should he or anyone else answer questions so fundamentally detached from the arguments they're making? He didn't say anything about Bush's non-political actions; you know that is not the source of his complaint. Your decision to answer that question is so you can ignore the content of his points. I get that your whole shtick is drawing people into increasingly circular and inane arguments, but some of us have self-respect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/16/19 4:27:07 PM #86:	Intro2Logic posted... I get that your whole shtick is drawing people into increasingly circular and inane arguments, but some of us have self-respect. You talk about self respect while arguing that its okay to be angry at others for being friends with people they disagree with politically Its nonsense Total Tribal nonsense --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928850831] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>I get that your whole shtick is drawing people into increasingly circular and inane arguments, but some of us have self-respect.</quote> You talk about self respect while arguing that its okay to be angry at others for being friends with people they disagree with politically Its nonsense Total Tribal nonsense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bestoffuture 10/16/19 4:30:51 PM #87:	This argument is stupid and I'm sorry for bringing it up. --- Proud leader of the PeyPals Proud member of the Mickie Maniacs <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:928850984] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>This argument is stupid and I'm sorry for bringing it up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
stoltenberg11 10/16/19 7:43:11 PM #88:	Paper_Okami posted... stoltenberg11 posted... this, and it's ridiculous. lmao at the "enlightened fence sitting" the side that committed fucking war crimes is the bad side how difficult is this to understand? you can think of them how you want but refusing to work across the aisle with them is stupid --- You're such a boring characterless entity. Try getting laid once in a while and maybe you'll have friends and find out what a "joke" is. - derrate <cite>stoltenberg11 posted [p:928859033] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Paper_Okami posted...</cite> <quote>stoltenberg11 posted... </cite> <quote>this, and it's ridiculous.</quote> lmao at the "enlightened fence sitting" the side that committed fucking war crimes is the bad side how difficult is this to understand? </quote> you can think of them how you want but refusing to work across the aisle with them is stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 10/16/19 8:20:05 PM #89:	Bush was a monster and the fact he has been normalized into acceptability is really terrible. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:928860524] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Bush was a monster and the fact he has been normalized into acceptability is really terrible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 10/16/19 8:33:34 PM #90:	Most of out presidents have been war criminals. To single out Bush Jr. is merely todays political polarization by leftists. If Ellen hung out with mr Drone strike himself Obama, nobody would say jack. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:928861091] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Most of out presidents have been war criminals. To single out Bush Jr. is merely todays political polarization by leftists. If Ellen hung out with mr Drone strike himself Obama, nobody would say jack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 8:36:15 PM #91:	Phewfus posted... Most of out presidents have been war criminals. wow ur right and that's a FUCKING BAD THING --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928861201] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted... </cite> <quote>Most of out presidents have been war criminals.</quote> wow ur right and that's a FUCKING BAD THING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 10/16/19 8:37:11 PM #92:	"war criminal" has officially lost meaning if you're going to declare every president ever a war criminal. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:928861231] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>"war criminal" has officially lost meaning if you're going to declare every president ever a war criminal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 10/16/19 8:40:19 PM #93:	no it hasn't --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:928861346] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>no it hasn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phewfus 10/16/19 8:47:06 PM #95:	Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:928861621] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TiamatNM 10/16/19 8:54:35 PM #97:	Phewfus posted... Most of out presidents have been war criminals. To single out Bush Jr. is merely todays political polarization by leftists. If Ellen hung out with mr Drone strike himself Obama, nobody would say jack. Unfortunately this is true. <cite>TiamatNM posted [p:928861951] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote>Most of out presidents have been war criminals. To single out Bush Jr. is merely todays political polarization by leftists. If Ellen hung out with mr Drone strike himself Obama, nobody would say jack.</quote> Unfortunately this is true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/16/19 8:58:12 PM #98:	The whole illegal war and its resulting deaths, along with him thinking she doesn't deserve basic rights might be why people are kind of miffed, I imagine. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:928862084] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>The whole illegal war and its resulting deaths, along with him thinking she doesn't deserve basic rights might be why people are kind of miffed, I imagine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phewfus 10/16/19 9:02:12 PM #99:	DuranOfForcena posted... Phewfus posted... Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals. even if the case is only "most", as you did say. the remainders would be the outliers in that case. Yes, and? Even going through the 20th century, only a minority of presidents have had no war crime accusations thrown against them. <cite>Phewfus posted [p:928862244] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals.</quote> even if the case is only "most", as you did say. the remainders would be the outliers in that case.</quote> Yes, and? Even going through the 20th century, only a minority of presidents have had no war crime accusations thrown against them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 10/16/19 9:03:26 PM #101:	Phewfus posted... DuranOfForcena posted... Phewfus posted... Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals. even if the case is only "most", as you did say. the remainders would be the outliers in that case. Yes, and? Even going through the 20th century, only a minority of presidents have had no war crime accusations thrown against them. OK, so being a world leader requires you to make some tough decisions, especially when you lead a superpower. glad you understand now. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:928862283] in Why are pe... [t:78090248]...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>Phewfus posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody said all our presidents are war criminals.</quote> even if the case is only "most", as you did say. the remainders would be the outliers in that case.</quote> Yes, and? Even going through the 20th century, only a minority of presidents have had no war crime accusations thrown against them.</quote> OK, so being a world leader requires you to make some tough decisions, especially when you lead a superpower. glad you understand now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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