Current Events > 43 year old big black rapper Tank claims sucking dick doesn't make you gay

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UnfairRepresent posted...

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If no one knows about it, you're still straight.

Tank is 100% wrong
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Has he been to prison?

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Sucking your own dick doesn't make you gay, just like giving yourself a hand job doesn't make you gay.

bknight posted...

Sucking your own dick doesn't make you gay, just like giving yourself a hand job doesn't make you gay.

This is true

I mean isn't any form of masturbation ever technically homosexual?
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Nah, that's not it chief.
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If a man put a gun to your head or your child's head and told you that if you didn't suck their dick then he would kill you or your child so you did it, would you then be gay?

If someone offered you a billion dollars cash to suck a dick, would you do it? I would and i'm not gay in the least. At that point it is a business decision. I have no urge or want to be with a man in any way, but i'd be a fool to turn down that sort of life changing money over performing a sex act that would be homosexual in it's nature. Especially when considering, as I said before, I wouldn't be gay before or after performing the act.

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people are so afraid to be gay or even bi
it's weird

CellBlock7 posted...

If a man put a gun to your head or your child's head and told you that if you didn't suck their dick then he would kill you or your child so you did it, would you then be gay?

Gay by duress?
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Illuminoius posted...

people are so afraid to be gay or even bi
it's weird

its really not

CellBlock7 posted...

If a man put a gun to your head or your child's head and told you that if you didn't suck their dick then he would kill you or your child so you did it, would you then be gay?

If someone offered you a billion dollars cash to suck a dick, would you do it? I would and i'm not gay in the least. At that point it is a business decision. I have no urge or want to be with a man in any way, but i'd be a fool to turn down that sort of life changing money over performing a sex act that would be homosexual in it's nature. Especially when considering, as I said before, I wouldn't be gay before or after performing the act.

First one is raped. You would be raped, gay or straight.

Second one is prostitution gay or straight.

I like the ridiculous scenarios but if you have the inclination to suck dick as a man, you're at least some kind degree of bi, possibly gay. And it's absolutely okay. Not anything to be ashamed of or rationalize away.

I've personally never been curious to do so, never felt the need to experiment to find out either, but that's just me. I'm not everyone nor will I pretend to understand everyone on that front. Hell, I may even be wrong. Just saying what I think. Dude might need to stop feeling ashamed of himself.

He's explaining bi-curious

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Sounds like a reassurance to me.

DarkRoast posted...

He's explaining bi-curious

Bisexual, homosexual, heterosexual. Those are the opinions. Anything else is just deflection. Be with who you want to be. Fuck peoples judgements.

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CellBlock7 posted...

If a man put a gun to your head or your child's head and told you that if you didn't suck their dick then he would kill you or your child so you did it, would you then be gay?

If someone offered you a billion dollars cash to suck a dick, would you do it? I would and i'm not gay in the least. At that point it is a business decision. I have no urge or want to be with a man in any way, but i'd be a fool to turn down that sort of life changing money over performing a sex act that would be homosexual in it's nature. Especially when considering, as I said before, I wouldn't be gay before or after performing the act.

This is being hyperliteral.

It's absolutely clear that Tank was not refering to rape, blackmail or bribery. He was refering to consentual sex with another man.

Going "WEll you claim you would never hurt your child but what if Aliens came down, destroyed Berlin and said they would blow up Earth unless you punches your son in the face!?" is just nonsense.

You're being intellectually dishonest
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I agree with him tbh

Guy sucked a dick, didnt like it, moved on with his life.

Dunno why people are so fascinated by this topic
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So if you have sex with a prepubescent 11 year once, you're not a pedophile?
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

So if you have sex with a prepubescent 11 year once, you're not a pedophile?

Strictly speaking you are a child predator, as its possible to be a pedophile and yet never act on it

Thinking too much about it man
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Im surprised its not moddable to compare homosexuality to pedophilia or cutting off your own foot.
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Shablagoo posted...

Im surprised its not moddable to compare homosexuality to pedophilia or cutting off your own foot.

It may well be. I'm hoping he was just making a clumsy analogy and not trying to draw a direct comparison.
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Shablagoo posted...

Im surprised its not moddable to compare homosexuality to pedophilia or cutting off your own foot.

Im not comparing the two. Im simply stating if you act on it, then it's what you are. There's nothing wrong with being gay, just don't try to justify why you aren't after you've sucked a dick or two.
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otherwise the sexuality police will get ya!
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Im simply stating if you act on it, then it's what you are. There's nothing wrong with being gay, just don't try to justify why you aren't after you've sucked a dick or two.

I don't agree.

Some definitions are definitions by action. If you murder someone, you are a murderer, regardless of whether you reform emotionally or not.

Some definitions are definitions by feeling. If you like soda drinks, you are a soda drink fan. This might change later, in which case you are no longer a fan of soda drinks.

If you accept that people can be fluid about their sexuality then you can accept that sexuality is more about feelings than it is about a list of actions you have performed. Otherwise you'd have to accept that you weren't a heterosexual until you got down with a chick.
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pinky0926 posted...

If you accept that people can be fluid about their sexuality then you can accept that sexuality is more about feelings than it is about a list of actions you have performed.

I don't agree with that because I don't know a straight man that just feels like sucking a dick.
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

I don't agree with that because I don't know a straight man that just feels like sucking a dick.

At what point are you straight, then? Is it when you first kiss a girl? Surely there has to be a specific sexual act with a person of the other sex that determines when you can be determined to be heterosexual, by your own definition.

Also you're not really telling the truth about that, because we have a story here of someone who did exactly that. The problem here is you don't accept their definition of their own sexuality. So of course you've never met a straight man who felt like sucking a dick once, you've already decided yourself they are therefore not straight!
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Maybe im wrong about heterosexuality but sucking a dick has never crossed my mind.
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pinky0926 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

I don't agree with that because I don't know a straight man that just feels like sucking a dick.

At what point are you straight, then? Is it when you first kiss a girl? Surely there has to be a specific sexual act with a person of the other sex that determines when you can be determined to be heterosexual, by your own definition.

No, I'm not talking about acts. Your physical attraction determines your sexuality. When you're a kid, you know who you like and don't know why.

But never in my life have I thought about sucking a dick, or actually doing it.
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Maybe im wrong about heterosexuality but sucking a dick has never crossed my mind.

That's fine but we aren't talking about you. We're talking about people who had done things and then changed their minds about how they felt about them.

As above, I don't think you're really being honest about "never met a straight man that wanted to suck a dick", because we have a story here of someone who did exactly that, you just won't acknowledge them. The problem here is you don't accept their definition of their own sexuality. So of course you've never met a straight man who felt like sucking a dick once, you've already decided yourself they are therefore not straight!
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

No, I'm not talking about acts. Your physical attraction determines your sexuality. When you're a kid, you know who you like and don't know why.

But never in my life have I thought about sucking a dick, or actually doing it.

Ok, let's work with that. Your physical atttraction determines your sexuality. I absolutely agree.

So what do you think about someone who may at one point have been attracted to people of the same gender, but are no longer? You have to accept that they are telling the truth when they say that happens, otherwise your problem is more to do with you think they are liars.
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pinky0926 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Maybe im wrong about heterosexuality but sucking a dick has never crossed my mind.

That's fine but we aren't talking about you. We're talking about people who had done things and then changed their minds about how they felt about them.

As above, I don't think you're really being honest about "never met a straight man that wanted to suck a dick", because we have a story here of someone who did exactly that, you just won't acknowledge them. The problem here is you don't accept their definition of their own sexuality. So of course you've never met a straight man who felt like sucking a dick once, you've already decided yourself they are therefore not straight!

So we have a story about someone that was bi-curious?

You can't just take back actions.
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pinky0926 posted...

So what do you think about someone who may at one point have been attracted to people of the same gender, but are no longer?

Bi-sexual
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

So we have a story about someone that was bi-curious?

You can't just take back actions.

I thought you said sexuality is determined by feelings, not actions? Literally what you just said.

Also, your definition lends another problem. What about someone that develops homosexual thoughts? Earlier on in their life, they were attracted to women, and never once thought about men. And eventually they develop an attraction to men. It's a new thing, essentially.

By your own definition, those people can't be gay, as sexuality is not fluid. They were straight to begin with, and that doesn't change right? You can't just become unstraight, if the logic holds.
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

So what do you think about someone who may at one point have been attracted to people of the same gender, but are no longer?

Bi-sexual

They can't be bi-sexual, because they are only sexually attracted to one gender. Their feelings are entirely heterosexual at this point.
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Imagine being this concerned with what people do in the bedroom and separating them into categories based on it.
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pinky0926 posted...

I thought you said sexuality is determined by feelings, not actions? Literally what you just said.

I misread your post and thought he acted on it and thats why I added the can't take back actions part
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pinky0926 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

So what do you think about someone who may at one point have been attracted to people of the same gender, but are no longer?

Bi-sexual

They can't be bi-sexual, because they are only sexually attracted to one gender. Their feelings are entirely heterosexual at this point.

And they just turned off their feelings like a light switch? Do they just wake up one more and be like, you know what, I'm not gay anymore?
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Shablagoo posted...

Imagine being this concerned with what people do in the bedroom and separating them into categories based on it.

Well yes exactly, this is my entire problem with this conversation. You speak to gay people or queer people and they're not the least bit interested in how you define yourself. You speak to some straight people and all of a sudden they're hyper interested in trying to figure out what box you should fit into, going as far as to tell you that the box you feel you are in is the wrong box.

It's an odd phenomenon. I really don't know how to feel about people who tell me that essentially my feelings don't exist.
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What, you've never stopped liking something you used to like?
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

And they just turned off their feelings like a light switch? Do they just wake up one more and be like, you know what, I'm not gay anymore?

If you want a realistic scenario, then you could say that over time their personality, values, likes and dislikes etc change and they eventually no longer hold the same interests that they did maybe 10 years ago.

If you accept that a person can develop sexual feelings at all to begin with, surely it's not outrageous to think that they might eventually lose interest in those sexual feelings over time?
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pinky0926 posted...

Shablagoo posted...

Imagine being this concerned with what people do in the bedroom and separating them into categories based on it.

Well yes exactly, this is my entire problem with this conversation. You speak to gay people or queer people and they're not the least bit interested in how you define yourself. You speak to some straight people and all of a sudden they're hyper interested in trying to figure out what box you should fit into, going as far as to tell you that the box you feel you are in is the wrong box.

It's an odd phenomenon. I really don't know how to feel about people who tell me that essentially my feelings don't exist.

And funnily its the same people who poo poo Pride because Your sexuality doesnt make you special! IDC what your sexuality is! (Not understanding that Gay Pride isnt literally Im proud to be gay but rather a response to generations of hatred leveled at the gay community.)
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pinky0926 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

And they just turned off their feelings like a light switch? Do they just wake up one more and be like, you know what, I'm not gay anymore?

If you want a realistic scenario, then you could say that over time their personality, values, likes and dislikes etc change and they eventually no longer hold the same interests that they did maybe 10 years ago.

If you accept that a person can develop sexual feelings at all to begin with, surely it's not outrageous to think that they might eventually lose interest in those sexual feelings over time?

That's true about changing but do the feelings just stop one day and they're like, nope not gay anymore?
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

That's true about changing but do the feelings just stop one day and they're like, nope not gay anymore?

You won't find many people who went full gay and then stopped being gay, although apparently it happens. You will find lots of people who were curious about being gay, tried it and then decided it wasn't really for them, or it was a phase, or whatever.

Curiously this kind of thinking doesn't seem to apply to women who "had some wild college years". Girls that make out or suck tits at college parties aren't lumped with the lesbian card for all eternity. This idea that any guy that experiments is forever gay is really just something that happens to men.

You said yourself, "bi-curious", but what happens when the person stops being curious anymore? That's what we have here, after all. The guy tried a thing, decided his curiosity was satisfied and ended up in the conclusion that it's not something he enjoys.

You know what - I'd actually argue that this guy might even be straighter than someone who hasn't experimented. I mean he's really sure now. He did the test and came out the other end thinking "nah, women for me thanks".

Getting a bit silly here but I hope you take my point. I think there's not really much need to issue eternal sanctions on someone's sexuality because of something they tried sometime.
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LordMarshal posted...

So i stole a car and wasnt sure how i felt about it. When i stole another i concluded "No, car stealing isnt for me and i am not a criminal."

Comparing being gay to a criminal act lol
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WerewolfPaws posted...

LordMarshal posted...

So i stole a car and wasnt sure how i felt about it. When i stole another i concluded "No, car stealing isnt for me and i am not a criminal."

Comparing being gay to a criminal act lol

So far ITT its been compared to

pedophilia
cutting ones own foot off
grand theft auto

Not surprising this is where homophobes heads are at, but it is still disheartening.
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I LMAO at "Oh I just sucked a dick. Am I gay? Let me try again and find out" lol
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DystopiaMan posted...

If no one knows about it, you're still straight.

And a rapist
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pinky0926 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

That's true about changing but do the feelings just stop one day and they're like, nope not gay anymore?

You won't find many people who went full gay and then stopped being gay, although apparently it happens. You will find lots of people who were curious about being gay, tried it and then decided it wasn't really for them, or it was a phase, or whatever.

Curiously this kind of thinking doesn't seem to apply to women who "had some wild college years". Girls that make out or suck tits at college parties aren't lumped with the lesbian card for all eternity. This idea that any guy that experiments is forever gay is really just something that happens to men.

You said yourself, "bi-curious", but what happens when the person stops being curious anymore? That's what we have here, after all. The guy tried a thing, decided his curiosity was satisfied and ended up in the conclusion that it's not something he enjoys.

You know what - I'd actually argue that this guy might even be straighter than someone who hasn't experimented. I mean he's really sure now. He did the test and came out the other end thinking "nah, women for me thanks".

Getting a bit silly here but I hope you take my point. I think there's not really much need to issue eternal sanctions on someone's sexuality because of something they tried sometime.

That's what I'm not understanding, the curiosity.

It's not for me to understand I guess.
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