Poll of the Day > Betsy DeVos found in contempt of court.

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GanonsSpirit
10/24/19 10:45:26 PM
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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/judge-holds-betsy-devos-in-contempt-057012

She got a $100000 fine. Since she was acting as secretary of education, the government has to pay it.

So tax payers are paying the penalty for someone fucking over tax payers.
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TheWitchMorgana
10/24/19 10:46:34 PM
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time to throw out the whole government
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ParanoidObsessive
10/24/19 10:47:47 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EFSQPJh8w" data-time="&start=146

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WhiskeyDisk
10/24/19 10:48:56 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/judge-holds-betsy-devos-in-contempt-057012

She got a $100000 fine. Since she was acting as secretary of education, the government has to pay it.

So tax payers are paying the penalty for someone fucking over tax payers.


It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.
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Mead
10/24/19 10:54:21 PM
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She is a terrible person
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WastelandCowboy
10/24/19 10:55:34 PM
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As if $100,000 would be an issue to her. Her family is worth several billion.

$100,000 is pocket change to these ultrarich fucks.
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GanonsSpirit
10/24/19 10:56:29 PM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
As if $100,000 would be an issue to her. Her family is worth several billion.

$100,000 is pocket change to these ultrarich fucks.

Well, there's really nothing we can do. She's too rich to go to jail, after all.
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streamofthesky
10/24/19 10:57:03 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/judge-holds-betsy-devos-in-contempt-057012

She got a $100000 fine. Since she was acting as secretary of education, the government has to pay it.

So tax payers are paying the penalty for someone fucking over tax payers.

WHAT THE FUCK?????!!!!!

Acting as an employee of the government doesn't fucking extend to when you break the fucking law! That's not within her job duties. This is complete bull shit, how is this allowed?
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ParanoidObsessive
10/24/19 10:57:55 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.

I'd still prefer that over scenarios where a homeowner is expected to maintain the sidewalk in front of their home for themselves and can be legally sued by anyone who gets injured because of it. Some municipalities actually have laws like that.
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Mead
10/24/19 10:58:52 PM
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Maybe tax payers should vote in 2020 so we dont get another idiot like Trump in office that appoints absurdly corrupt people to his administration
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streamofthesky
10/24/19 11:00:05 PM
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Mead posted...
Maybe tax payers should vote in 2020 so we dont get another idiot like Trump in office that appoints absurdly corrupt people to his administration

Absolutely yes, but even aside from that the thing I bolded shouldn't be a thing.
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Zeus
10/25/19 9:56:11 PM
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The system works! ...wait...

WastelandCowboy posted...
As if $100,000 would be an issue to her. Her family is worth several billion.

$100,000 is pocket change to these ultrarich fucks.


You can still bet she wouldn't have violated the order if she was personally responsible (unless she stood to make more from the college collecting loans)

ParanoidObsessive posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.

I'd still prefer that over scenarios where a homeowner is expected to maintain the sidewalk in front of their home for themselves and can be legally sued by anyone who gets injured because of it. Some municipalities actually have laws like that.


This so hard.
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BeerOnTap
10/25/19 10:15:41 PM
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Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


How so? Be specific please.
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Mead
10/25/19 10:43:16 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


How so? Be specific please.


Shes done everything in her power to prop up privatized for profit school systems while turning a blind eye to the current school voucher system problems

Shes also made the over reliance on standardized testing an even bigger problem and ignored the calls to address the fact that there is no systemic preparation for the tests in lower income areas

Basically she wants the entire education system to be a for profit free market
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HornedLion
10/25/19 10:52:07 PM
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Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


I heard she eats rats. She downs really big ones. And she has a thing for unshaven hairy ones.
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BlackScythe0
10/25/19 11:03:48 PM
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This is ignorant. She should be jailed, it's unjustifiable to charge tax payers for her fucking over tax payers.
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Solid Snake07
10/25/19 11:20:00 PM
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So the government is going to fine itself. Cool story
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Miroku_of_Nite1
10/25/19 11:57:33 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.


Don't worry, it will come out of the general fund.
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WhiskeyDisk
10/26/19 12:19:15 AM
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.


Don't worry, it will come out of the general fund.


And the general fund just what...falls out of the fucking sky as if by magic?
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Zeus
10/26/19 12:48:32 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
This is ignorant. She should be jailed, it's unjustifiable to charge tax payers for her fucking over tax payers.


What?
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BlackScythe0
10/26/19 12:49:39 AM
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Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
This is ignorant. She should be jailed, it's unjustifiable to charge tax payers for her fucking over tax payers.


What?


violating an order to stop collecting on the student loans owed by students of a defunct for-profit college.
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Miroku_of_Nite1
10/26/19 12:58:55 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.


Don't worry, it will come out of the general fund.


And the general fund just what...falls out of the fucking sky as if by magic?


Taxes sure. But general fund is entirely to the discretion of the organization's governing board. Local municipalities will often take taxes meant for infrastructure and place them in the general fund and use them for something else. Like fly out conferences for the board of directors, and 2 million dollar bathroom in a public park.
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WhiskeyDisk
10/26/19 1:09:16 AM
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Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...
WhiskeyDisk posted...
It's the same problem I have with people suing their municipality. Sure, you won the lawsuit because there was an uneven sidewalk, but now everyone else in the town has to pay a portion of their taxes to you, including...you.


Don't worry, it will come out of the general fund.


And the general fund just what...falls out of the fucking sky as if by magic?


Taxes sure. But general fund is entirely to the discretion of the organization's governing board. Local municipalities will often take taxes meant for infrastructure and place them in the general fund and use them for something else. Like fly out conferences for the board of directors, and 2 million dollar bathroom in a public park.


Hence, my taxes.
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Sarcasthma
10/26/19 1:20:38 AM
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Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


How so? Be specific please.


Shes done everything in her power to prop up privatized for profit school systems while turning a blind eye to the current school voucher system problems

Shes also made the over reliance on standardized testing an even bigger problem and ignored the calls to address the fact that there is no systemic preparation for the tests in lower income areas

Basically she wants the entire education system to be a for profit free market

Are these acceptable reasons to say shes terrible, @BeerOnTap?
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ranagrande
10/26/19 9:20:36 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


How so? Be specific please.


Shes done everything in her power to prop up privatized for profit school systems while turning a blind eye to the current school voucher system problems

Shes also made the over reliance on standardized testing an even bigger problem and ignored the calls to address the fact that there is no systemic preparation for the tests in lower income areas

Basically she wants the entire education system to be a for profit free market

Are these acceptable reasons to say shes terrible, @BeerOnTap?

And then there's Amway, the source of her family's wealth, and its terrible business practices. It's an MLM, which is bad enough. The factories where they make their products are run almost entirely by temps who can work for 18 months and will then be let go. Because if they kept people on longer they would be required to offer full-time employment with benefits.
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Mead
10/26/19 9:22:36 AM
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Oh damn I didnt even know she was associated with Amway

I used to hear adults talk about how awful they were even back when I was a kid
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Sarcasthma
10/27/19 2:42:31 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...
She is a terrible person


How so? Be specific please.


Shes done everything in her power to prop up privatized for profit school systems while turning a blind eye to the current school voucher system problems

Shes also made the over reliance on standardized testing an even bigger problem and ignored the calls to address the fact that there is no systemic preparation for the tests in lower income areas

Basically she wants the entire education system to be a for profit free market

Are these acceptable reasons to say shes terrible, @BeerOnTap?

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HornedLion
10/27/19 10:51:45 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
This is ignorant. She should be jailed, it's unjustifiable to charge tax payers for her fucking over tax payers.


What?


violating an order to stop collecting on the student loans owed by students of a defunct for-profit college.


Why do you even take the time to respond to him?
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BUMPED2002
10/27/19 11:00:37 AM
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This woman being Sec Of Ed is akin to appointing Mickey Mouse head of the PTA committee.
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OniRonin
10/27/19 11:59:57 AM
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BeerOnTap posted...
How so? Be specific please.


- supports charter schools
- has yachts
- nongamer

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adjl
10/27/19 2:23:39 PM
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Really, successful lawsuits against government agencies should have the funds garnisheed from the salaries of whoever's running the agency that's responsible (or in a case like this, directly from DeVos, which would include any other sources of income she has because garnishees have that kind of power), rather than coming out of stuff taxes are supposed to be funding. Get some personal responsibility in there.
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