Current Events > The Afgan was was LITERALLY pointless

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10/30/19 1:13:18 PM
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We spent the whole war literally just bombing empty caves lmao. Osama was in Pakistan anyway, wtf were we doing there? LOL
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konokonohamaru
10/30/19 1:14:08 PM
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Elmer_Glue
10/30/19 1:14:22 PM
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Wow, that's pretty rascist, calling Afghanistan pointless...
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Ultima Dragon
10/30/19 1:19:32 PM
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We got hella opium from there though, and continue to do so to this day.
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codey
10/30/19 1:21:33 PM
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Afghans are like the best throw blankets
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Foppe
10/30/19 1:22:20 PM
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It kept the war economy alive.
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Bio1590
10/30/19 1:23:17 PM
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It wasn't "pointless".

It further destabilized the country and basically left them with almost no chance of recovery without massive amounts of foreign assistance.
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Garioshi
10/30/19 1:23:36 PM
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"were" implies that it ended
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ElatedVenusaur
10/30/19 1:27:31 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
It wasn't "pointless".

It further destabilized the country and basically left them with almost no chance of recovery without massive amounts of foreign assistance.

Hey, once we leave, the Taliban will probably bring back some stability. And when you're not sure if that would be a good or bad thing, you know you've really screwed up!
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coh
10/30/19 1:28:22 PM
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How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11
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konokonohamaru
10/30/19 1:29:56 PM
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coh posted...
How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11


A lot of it was also Cold War. We were involved everywhere trying to fight communism

Everyone should play the board game Twilight Struggle. Great way to learn international cold war history
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Garioshi
10/30/19 1:30:29 PM
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coh posted...
How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11

America hates third world countries nationalizing their natural resources
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Foppe
10/30/19 1:32:26 PM
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coh posted...
How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11

Had to be sure that the Iraq revolution gave the power to somebody that supported USA more than Soviet.
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ElatedVenusaur
10/30/19 1:32:47 PM
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coh posted...
How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11

Afghanistan isn't really in the Middle East though: it's in Central Asia. We first really got involved in the '80s when the Soviets were waging a war to support their client government, so we slipped the rebels(which included the proto-Taliban) missile launchers so they could shoot down Soviet helicopters and stuff.
Afghanistan as it exists really isn't a cohesive entity and hasn't been, not really in terms of having had a cohesive national government and definitely not in terms of their being an Afghan identity that supersedes ethnicities.
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Bio1590
10/30/19 1:46:47 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
coh posted...
How did we even get involved in the Middle East in the first place. Im talking pre 9/11

Afghanistan isn't really in the Middle East though: it's in Central Asia. We first really got involved in the '80s when the Soviets were waging a war to support their client government, so we slipped the rebels(which included the proto-Taliban) missile launchers so they could shoot down Soviet helicopters and stuff.
Afghanistan as it exists really isn't a cohesive entity and hasn't been, not really in terms of having had a cohesive national government and definitely not in terms of their being an Afghan identity that supersedes ethnicities.

It really is amazing how far back that whole area being fucked goes.

Like the Pakistan-Afghanistan border is just some random bullshit that was decided between some British dude named Mortimer Durand and the Emir of Afghanistan at the time so they'd stop arguing over some other bullshit. It was slightly modified later but Afghanistan has never formally recognized it and Pakistan ended up inheriting it when they gained independence. It cuts right through the ancestral homelands of a number of ethnic groups (splitting them between Pakistan and Afghanistan) and honestly is one of the worst borders (if not THE worst border) in the world.
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ThyCorndog
10/30/19 1:48:17 PM
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europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards
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Bio1590
10/30/19 1:55:05 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards

Afghanistan goes back to the 1800s
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ThyCorndog
10/30/19 1:57:43 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards

Afghanistan goes back to the 1800s

well it goes back to classical history as bactria and even further back as part of the ancient persian empires, but so what
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ElatedVenusaur
10/30/19 1:58:35 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards

Afghanistan goes back to the 1800s

Yeah, it was used as a buffer state between Russia's holdings in Central Asian and British India. The Brits were hyper paranoid about Russian hordes pouring out of Central Asia and overrunning India(logistics be damned).
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UnholyMudcrab
10/30/19 1:58:52 PM
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Bio1590
10/30/19 2:20:26 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
Bio1590 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards

Afghanistan goes back to the 1800s

well it goes back to classical history as bactria and even further back as part of the ancient persian empires, but so what

I mean the Europeans fucked the region well before ww1. The Durand Line was established in the early 1890s and hell the whole Russia/British India thing goes back to the 1830s.
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ThyCorndog
10/30/19 2:31:19 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
Bio1590 posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
europeans fucked the region after ww1 and ww2 and we continued to fuck it up afterwards

Afghanistan goes back to the 1800s

well it goes back to classical history as bactria and even further back as part of the ancient persian empires, but so what

I mean the Europeans fucked the region well before ww1. The Durand Line was established in the early 1890s and hell the whole Russia/British India thing goes back to the 1830s.

well, sure. you're right
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