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Antifar
10/30/19 7:58:17 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/28/nypd-video-guns-pointed-subway-train-unarmed-fare-hopper/
A 19-year-old in a green jacket and ripped jeans held his hands above his head and sat alone in the middle of a New York subway car on Friday. As the other passengers watched, nearly a dozen police officers peered in from the Franklin Avenue station platform in Brooklyn.

Then, one by one, they noticed that several officers were pointing guns into the crowded afternoon car at the unarmed black teen. Some yelled in horror as they squeezed together on either end of the car. Adrian Napier kept his hands in the air and asked the officers whether he should stay in the seat or lie on the floor.

Call my mom, he told someone on the train.

Seconds later, a group of New York police officers flooded the train and tackled the young man to the ground, cuffing and frisking him. The officers didnt find the gun they were looking for, but they arrested Napier for fare evasion, charging him with theft of services for hopping over a turnstile.

The tense encounter was caught on film by another passenger on the 4 train, who posted the video on Twitter, where it has been viewed more than 3 million times since Friday evening.

After that one policeman took his gun out, two or three more took them out, Elad Nehorai, 35, who shared the video, told The Washington Post early Monday. For a moment, they were kind of pointing guns at everyone who was in that vicinity.

The arrest has drawn criticism amid ongoing public debate over New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomos (D) decision to fund 500 new police officers who will patrol the citys public transit systems to combat increasing levels of fare evasion and the perception of increased crime on the subway.

Former housing secretary Julin Castro, a Democratic presidential hopeful, criticized the officers for responding with guns to a man who was ultimately charged with stealing a one-stop ride on public transportation.

Officers should be working to deescalate not putting dozens of lives at risk over $2.75, Castro said on Twitter.

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

Officers at the Franklin Avenue station located and identified the individual inside of the train and took him into custody without incident, NYPD said in a statement. The individual was arrested for not paying the fare and was charged with Theft of Service.

NYPD did not immediately return a request for information about its training or protocols for making arrests inside subway trains.

The NYC Civilian Complaint Review Board, which investigates allegations of police misconduct, contacted Nehorai on Sunday and told him how to file a complaint against the NYPD officers.

Other passengers on the train were visibly shaken by the arrest. Several people shouted warnings about the officers guns. Others flinched at the sight of the barrels. Within a minute of stopping in the station, everyone else had moved from the center of the car to the edges, leaving the 19-year-old alone in the line of fire.

It was a combination of feeling incredibly concerned for [Napier] and also being aware that we were in danger, Nehorai told The Post. If anything small went wrong, someone could have been hurt.

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NinjaWarrior455
10/30/19 8:03:15 PM
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Pigs gonna oink
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ScazarMeltex
10/30/19 8:06:07 PM
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There literally is not a single day that goes by that there isn't a news story about cops behaving badly. Just remember, this is only the times they get caught. Imagine how much they get away with.
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Zikten
10/30/19 8:07:09 PM
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it's only going to get worse
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Blue_Inigo
10/30/19 8:07:43 PM
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Fuck the police
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Shablagoo
10/30/19 8:10:54 PM
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Fuck the pig lice
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Middle hope
10/30/19 8:17:00 PM
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So they were told he had a gun on him and was an armed and dangerous threat? Should they have just sent in one unarmed cop to chit chat with him with that info in mind?

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Manocheese
10/30/19 8:48:42 PM
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"People should be able to steal with no consequences." - liberals
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Manocheese
10/30/19 8:50:50 PM
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Why doesn't the subway use turnstiles with multiple bars so people can't go over or under it?

https://www.controlledaccess.com/wp-content/uploads/full-height-turnstile-hs400-single-g.png
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darkprince45
10/30/19 8:51:26 PM
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Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare
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ElatedVenusaur
10/30/19 8:52:18 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare

How does them having their guns drawn improve the situation?
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KStateKing17
10/30/19 8:53:16 PM
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Don't respond to it
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darkprince45
10/30/19 8:53:38 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare

How does them having their guns drawn improve the situation?


Because theyre actively after somebody that committed a crime with a firearm and ran from the police. Which would be pretty standard police protocol .And thats not what this topic titles or news headlines makes it sound like
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YoshitoKikuchi
10/30/19 8:54:32 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Why doesn't the subway use turnstiles with multiple bars so people can't go over or under it?

https://www.controlledaccess.com/wp-content/uploads/full-height-turnstile-hs400-single-g.png


They do but not at every stop
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hockeybub89
10/30/19 8:56:38 PM
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metallica846 posted...
The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.


Someone lied and said he had a gun. Of course they pulled on him. Blame the fucked up lying witness if you are angry god damn.

It's terrifying that cops will just draw guns and maybe shoot whoever a random witness tells them to. It's the perfect way to silence your enemies.
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NinjaWarrior455
10/30/19 8:58:01 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
ElatedVenusaur posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare

How does them having their guns drawn improve the situation?


Because theyre actively after somebody that committed a crime with a firearm and ran from the police. Which would be pretty standard police protocol .And thats not what this topic titles or news headlines makes it sound like

He had no firearm. For all he knows the police are just chasing him for absolutely no reason.
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hockeybub89
10/30/19 8:58:22 PM
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Manocheese posted...
"People should be able to steal with no consequences." - liberals

Yeah I think police should draw guns on everyone that goes over the speed limit too. Cops needs to teach us that there are consequences to our actions.
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FursonaNonGrata
10/30/19 9:11:29 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare


But he didnt have a gun and the witness was incorrect. Why are you ignoring that part and going straight to defending their actions?
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monkeysRfunny
10/30/19 9:23:35 PM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Antifar posted...

The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.

This is why they had guns drawn. which makes sense. The topic title and headline makes it out sound like they swarmed him with guns for skipping a fare


But he didnt have a gun and the witness was incorrect. Why are you ignoring that part and going straight to defending their actions?

Why are you ignoring the fact that it was reported that he had a gun and ran away from the police? If someone calls the cops about a guy with a weapon, they need to take it seriously. They can't be all "Oh they might be mistaken, we can just be chill about it". Especially when he tries to run away from them.
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YoshitoKikuchi
10/31/19 1:21:11 PM
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Hmmm
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Tmaster148
10/31/19 1:23:47 PM
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America where the solution to every problem is pulling a gun in somebody.
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konokonohamaru
10/31/19 1:25:04 PM
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metallica846 posted...
The New York Police Department said in a statement shared with The Post early Monday that a witness near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn told officers that Napier had a gun around 4:40 p.m. Friday. Officers first tried to approach the 19-year-old a short time later, NYPD said, but he fled into the Pacific Street subway station. Napier allegedly slipped past the turnstile and boarded a southbound train. At least 10 officers were waiting at the Franklin Avenue station when the train pulled in.


Someone lied and said he had a gun. Of course they pulled on him. Blame the fucked up lying witness if you are angry god damn.


shhh... "both sides" viewpoints aren't allowed here
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Blue_Target
10/31/19 1:27:16 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Why doesn't the subway use turnstiles with multiple bars so people can't go over or under it?

https://www.controlledaccess.com/wp-content/uploads/full-height-turnstile-hs400-single-g.png
I've seen too many tourist not knowing how these things work.

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KStateKing17
10/31/19 3:49:09 PM
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If they found evidence of him illegally having one then I'd understand, but otherwise this reminds me of that guy that got killed in Wichita because someone lied.

Is it illegal to carry in Brooklyn?
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MrNintendo1213
10/31/19 3:54:43 PM
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Manocheese posted...
"People should be able to steal with no consequences." - liberals

"Cops should wave their guns around at random people in public." -Conservatives
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krazychao5
10/31/19 4:04:40 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
America where the solution to every problem is pulling a gun in somebody.

https://en.meming.world/images/en/9/95/So_Anyway%2C_I_Started_Blasting.jpg
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Chev427BB
10/31/19 4:06:32 PM
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If you defend the police in this case you believe it's an appropriate use of force to pull guns on jaywalkers.

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HiddenRoar
10/31/19 4:09:07 PM
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Chev427BB posted...
If you defend the police in this case you believe it's an appropriate use of force to pull guns on jaywalkers.


If police got a call that the jaywalker matched the description of someone who had committed rape/murder, and the jaywalker runs when the cops approached, yes.

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Feline_Heart
10/31/19 4:14:51 PM
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Manocheese posted...
Why doesn't the subway use turnstiles with multiple bars so people can't go over or under it?

https://www.controlledaccess.com/wp-content/uploads/full-height-turnstile-hs400-single-g.png

Jumping the turnstile is a time-honored NYC tradition. Everyone has done it at least once lol.
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The Catgirl Fondler
10/31/19 4:46:12 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Pigs gonna oink

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