Board 8 > Chick-Fil-A's sales have DOUBLED since the LGBT community called for a Boycott

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You can look at any study on what proportion of the population supports gay rights and it won't square with the assertion that almost no one is bothered by CFA's donations. I think boycotts themselves are seen as pointless and indefinite boycotts aren't even feasible.
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Never eaten there, never will.
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I think the long term growth rate is more indicative of a more thriving economy than of any defiance to or support for LGBT issues.

What was more telling though was the immediate response Chick-Fil-A received after the news first broke back in 2012. If I recall, what followed was a week of huge earnings as people flocked to the fast food chain in a show of support meant to counter-protest those calling for boycotts.

At the end of the day though, most people who go there probably just want some good chicken. It's kind of like boycotting Walmart or Nike or whatever. Maybe you have your reasons, and they might be important to you, but that doesn't mean everyone else should feel the same way you do about it, even if they hold your same beliefs.

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Its a trash company

but damn, I can't not eat their food though
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I really don't feel like I need to politicize my chicken.

That said they're still scummy and Cane's is soooooooo much better. But I still eat a Chik-Fil-A pretty often.
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I like seeing the Cane's love ITT. Where I live, everyone bitches about it being "overrated," and then proceeds to get in the 15-car Chick-Fil-A drive thru line. >_>

Overall though, Bojangles is my favorite widespread chicken chain. I also think Church's is super underrated.
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TheCodeisBosco posted...

I like seeing the Cane's love ITT. Where I live, everyone bitches about it being "overrated," and then proceeds to get in the 15-car Chick-Fil-A drive thru line. >_>

Overall though, Bojangles is my favorite widespread chicken chain. I also think Church's is super underrated.

Is Bojangles especially widespread though? Ive been all over the place and Id never had it until I moved to North Carolina.

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I mean, it's widespread across much of the southeast. It's certainly not a nationwide chain.
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Yeah, Bojangles isn't ubiquitous, but it's at least widespread enough that it isn't localized to a specific city or state.

My nearest Bojangles is about a half-hour away. I've actually made the drive a couple times, though... It really is that much better than most competitors.
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I've only had Church's twice but really enjoyed it.
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I will need to try Bojangles next time I am in Tennessee for work
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Bojangles best thing is their fries
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I always find it weird how some people's attitude on this is basically "HAH! TAKE THAT GAY PEOPLE! CHIK FIL-A IS DOING GREAT! btw, we don't totally hate you so don't call us bigots! We don't want to kill you, we just want to deny you basic rights."

Like... if you're that proud of buying chicken sandwiches... uh good for you I guess? Not really much of an accomplishment on your part, but if you really need the validation that badly I suppose there must be a lot wrong with your life.
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I don't know what this thing is since I am not American but as a not American I am tired to see that people there are so sensitive that if you dare to say something that is maybe controversial you are a racist or sexist or both of these.
Can you people relax? Seriously

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i had Chick Fil A once and it was like, the best thing i've ever tasted. but i've never had any of the other places mentioned ITT. the only thing that exists here is KFC, it's sad.
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Safer_777 posted...

I don't know what this thing is since I am not American but as a not American I am tired to see that people there are so sensitive that if you dare to say something that is maybe controversial you are a racist or sexist or both of these.
Can you people relax? Seriously

where has that happened?
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Last time I looked into it, the CFA homophobia thing seemed blown out of proportion, but maybe things have changed since then, or maybe it's a blind spot because I'm a CFA fanboy. When I looked, all I could find was that one of the groups CFA gives to, gives to a group, that wanted to change the wording a bit on a bill opposing the "kill the gays" bill. That and not counting same-sex couples for date night discounts or whatever that thing was. Icky but not quite boycott worthy if you ask me. I eat there less than I used to but most of the people there are fine and they do some actual good charity stuff.

Cane's just came to town recently and they are a worthy rival but they don't have CFA's fries or lemonade

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Xuxon posted...

the only thing that exists here is KFC, it's sad.

yeah where I live the only major chicken places are KFC and Lee's and I'm not a fan of either one
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I hate to tell y'all that Publix is hardly any better than CFA in terms of donating to christian orgs/conservative candidates

Out of every fastfood restaurant ive been to in my life, chik fila is the one ive been to the most.

I hate religion, believe there are better ways to teach young kids morals then lying about things that "happened" in human history. If youre gonna tell a story then tell the kid its a story meant for moral guidance and is not real life at all. Maybe less people would go to war over complete non sense stories.

I hang out with gay people at least once a month and have had a gay guy friend ive known since high school in my wedding party. Let them have their lives, whatever.

For some reason ive never connected going to chik fila as a political statement at all.
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Almost every major corporation is awful on some level - that's how they get that big in the first place! It's funny when people draw lines like not ordering a chicken sandwich makes them a saint as they happily continue to benefit daily from modern day slavery.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Almost every major corporation is awful on some level - that's how they get that big in the first place! It's funny when people draw lines like not ordering a chicken sandwich makes them a saint as they happily continue to benefit daily from modern day slavery.

yeah but there aren't news stories about those so we can pretend they don't happen

my money is already being used for things I don't support through taxation anyway so I'm not going to sweat what organizations and corporations I give my money to
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LeonhartFour posted...

Xuxon posted...

the only thing that exists here is KFC, it's sad.

yeah where I live the only major chicken places are KFC and Lee's and I'm not a fan of either one

Lee's used to be a lot better than it is now. My local Lee's are foul nowadays - the potato wedges always turn out shriveled-up for some reason. It's gross.
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Leon had to help deep clean that Lee's once so he'll have nightmares for the remainder of his natural life regardless

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SaveEstelle posted...

Leon had to help deep clean that Lee's once so he'll have nightmares for the remainder of his natural life regardless

it really was disgusting
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junk_funk posted...

For some reason ive never connected going to chik fila as a political statement at all.

It's not, if you're going there for the food.

If you're just going there to stick it to the protesters or to "trigger" someone, then it's s political statement.

As well as an indication that you're unbelievably petty.
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LeonhartFour posted...

my money is already being used for things I don't support through taxation anyway so I'm not going to sweat what organizations and corporations I give my money to

You should sweat it though

I do still go to CFA like 5 times a year, and I feel kinda bad about it, but the conclusion should NOT be that I shouldn't feel bad about it because my money goes to way worse things.

Every month, thousands of dollars I make go to taxes. 40% of which goes to murdering children domestic and abroad, another 40% goes to the pockets of medical execs charging $1000 for cough syrup, 15% goes to the global inflation economy that makes savings and wealth mobility impossible, the last 5% goes to schools and PBS and all that little shit that causes statists to eagerly fund the other 95% of attrocities.

So a few $10s here and there at CFA is not even a blip on the radar. For mega cowards like perfect chaos who bathe in ignorance every day to survive in this country, it's one of the worst things you can do, but it's so small.

And yet, it's still bad. It's still not REALLY okay. You should still try to look for alternatives. But it's also not THAT bad.
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But CFA is such a low pay off that I think it makes the weight of the choice that much worse.

Like Im fine paying thousands of dollars to live a free life in a country I would otherwise be punished or jailed for not paying. Its not great but theres a definite payoff that makes my life better.

Cfa is like a mediocre chicken sandwhich. Even if they didnt fund hate groups why would you even buy from them, unless you were so poor of resources and mind that you have no alternative. I cant fathom being aware of their hate group funding and still going there, because what the hell are they even offering you?
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good food

which is basically all I expect from any restaurant
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Lol this is a funny topic title. I don't know what got LGBT worked up this time nor do I care

LeonhartFour posted...

good food

SantaRPidgey posted...

unless you were so poor of resources and mind

Not talking about you
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I mean I'm neither but good talk dude

of course this is my own fault for thinking this would go any differently but yeah
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I mean instead of the potshot that you clearly walked into, maybe I could use this opportunity to ask, what level of atrocity would a restaurant have to commit before you stop buying from them?
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SantaRPidgey posted...

maybe I could use this opportunity to ask

nah I'm good now
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Abouf the level of response to be expected from someone who cant figure out thay more than one restaurant might sell a good chicken sandwich.
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SantaRPidgey posted...

Cfa is like a mediocre chicken sandwhich.

Pretend we're talking about futanari hentai or something then

Like jesus christ how many people do we need ITT boasting about how they don't even ear CFA because it sucks ass. Wow congratulations you brave paragon of morality, avoiding an immoral thing that you don't even like in the first place. Next you'll tell me you don't eat used condoms found in subway bathrooms either!

The whole issue is about giving up something that you really like but has immoral implications. If you don't like the thing then, and I know this is hard to admit, the discussion doesn't apply to you and you can offer nothing.
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There aren't even any CFAs near me as far as I know (lolmichigan), but just how bad are the things they're supporting? Just the standard donations to causes that believe in "traditional blah blah blah" like pretty much any social conservative would do privately, or conversion-therapy levels of awful?
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foolm0r0n posted...

The whole issue is about giving up something that you really like but has immoral implications. If you don't like the thing then, and I know this is hard to admit, the discussion doesn't apply to you and you can offer nothing.

I mean listen, I understand that in concept.

I am just baffled by the fact that this chicken sandwich is what people have chosen to sell their souls for. Like yeah, Ive prioirtized my scruples poorly and I'll see you all in hell but when I sell out all my values, it wont be for a 6 dollar sandwich, which I assume tastes like an orgasm inside a supermodel feels for the people here.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Pretend we're talking about futanari hentai or something then

it would be pretty funny if there were a huge controversial news story about futa hentai
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SantaRPidgey posted...

I am just baffled by the fact that this chicken sandwich is what people have chosen to sell their souls for

It's not

There's literally a million worse things our money has gone to before CFA, half of which we are definitely aware of and just try not to think about. It's just easier to argue about a chicken sandwich because it's so insignificant.

People who pearl clutch about this are the absolute most delusional of all of us. They really believe their use of money is moral just because they don't go to CFA. It's incredibly ignorant and damaging.
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Solioxrz362 posted...

what's wrong with capitalism

In this very topic we have the general understanding that corporations are bad. There are folks in this topic who try and make themselves feel even more morally superior (even as they do nothing) by claiming well all corporations are evil so how can you do this boycott while living in society hur hur hur Im so smart. Capitalism places a price tag on human life, it makes your only value how much profit you can produce. Its a system that says you deserve to be hungry or sick or homeless if you dont have the right amount of green paper. Scientific advancement is hampered by if itll be profitable or not. Decisions are decided not by their ethics but by their profit margin.

The Top Crusader posted...

My understanding is once their donations to anti-gay things became a big deal a few years back they stopped donating to those causes. So I don't really see a good reason to boycott it or whatever anymore.

Your understanding is wrong. They are still very open about their donations to anti-LGBT causes. That they stopped was misinformation.

BanjoBoomer posted...

I'll gladly admit that I have no convictions or integrity. Life is too short and the endless oblivion of death is too long for me to spend my time caring about where my food comes from. I'll do whatever brings me carnal pleasure and then die and become worm food, and that'll be the end of that.

I was mainly speaking to folks who say their LGBT allies who can speak loudly about how pro-gay they are but cant even not eat at a restaurant that monetarily supports the eradication of the LGBT. I used to think like you. I realize our struggles are meaningless, and its all doomed to end. But I still try because I cant stand idly by and watch as the rich try to suppress the life and happiness of others for their own misplaced pleasures. This is the only life we get and people try so hard to ruin it. I take my pleasure in finding meaning in at least trying to do as many things as I can to barely improve the lot of as many as I can, but there are days itd be easier just to do as you do. Its very tiring. I understand.

Xiahou Shake posted...

Almost every major corporation is awful on some level - that's how they get that big in the first place! It's funny when people draw lines like not ordering a chicken sandwich makes them a saint as they happily continue to benefit daily from modern day slavery.

Interesting that you say society is bad when you live in a society! Hmm interesting! Do you really want to be this guy?

We cant even get people not to eat at a restaurant. How do you think we can get people to care at all about the entire system being broken. No one says it makes them a saint. Thats just your petulant backlash against someone telling you your action contributes to suffering talking.

foolm0r0n posted...

It's not

There's literally a million worse things our money has gone to before CFA, half of which we are definitely aware of and just try not to think about. It's just easier to argue about a chicken sandwich because it's so insignificant.

People who pearl clutch about this are the absolute most delusional of all of us. They really believe their use of money is moral just because they don't go to CFA. It's incredibly ignorant and damaging.

The difference is choice, dont you understand? Were forced to give our money to the government under penalty of our one life being destroyed. You arent forced to give your money to someone who loudly chuckles evilly as he hands you a sandwich and then offhandly mentions how hes going to hand your money straight over to a foundation dedicated to the eradication of LGBT. Youre just trying to make the act of doing nothing and your apathy seem moral so you can continue not doing anything. Its easier to critique than to do. If we cant even get people not to buy a chicken sandwich how are we going to get them to care about anything bigger than that. It seems almost hopeless. But by all means if you and me can gather a few thousand others Im all for toppling our corrupt society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-WCf6HxKHU
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PerfectChaosZ posted...

The difference is choice, dont you understand?

Clearly I do, but you don't. Or rather, this perception of choice is why your mentality is legit dangerous and damaging to our society. You demand all goods and services to go through 1 or 2 indirect layers of government, merely as a survival tactic so you can feel good about your apathy towards the injustices you're supporting.

When you voted for Obama and he supported a dozen foreign governments who routinely kill their gay people, you said exactly the same thing. You can't choose where the money goes, it's not your fault. But when it's a free market, it truly is entirely your choice whether to give this organization any money (barring any govt corporatism). You completely abhor capitalism and markets for making it hard to shrug off the blame for things like this. You dream for Comrade Trump to establish a Ministry of Pickles that would force us all to eat an FDA-designed chicken sandwich once a week, so you didn't have to worry about it anymore.

But in reality, you absolutely share the fault for what Obama/Trump does. I also share the fault even though I didn't vote for them, because I acknowledge the ways my lifestyle supports the government's atrocities. 1 or 2 layers of indirection is not an excuse. Not to mention the multitude of ways you CAN actually mitigate your support of the US govt (move money/income out of USD, etc) if you really did care.

PerfectChaosZ posted...

But by all means if you and me can gather a few thousand others Im all for toppling our corrupt society.

We can start by not laughing out candidates who get 1-2 mil popular votes as "wingnuts" or "spoilers" in order to once again vote straight down the ballot. People always say they support the revolution, except where it actually matters.

The bottom line is, you should go argue with all the gay people who still eat there, more than us.
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PerfectChaosZ posted...

Interesting that you say society is bad when you live in a society! Hmm interesting! Do you really want to be this guy?

don't want to put words in xiahou shake's mouth but i'm pretty sure he's not saying "stop living in society," he's saying "it's stupid to boycott chick-fil-a when you routinely support tons of other terrible gigantic corporations." people in this topic are literally acting like this: "i'm not eating chicken sandwiches at chick-fil-a anymore! GO LGBTQ! look how moral i am! *orders food at mcdonald's without thinking twice*"

this whole thing reminds me of the blizzard bullshit, really. "i'm going to boycott blizzard! I'M SO MORAL! now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to continue to support five billion other terrible companies that don't have a controversial news story attached to them." it's just virtue signalling.
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I've never had CFA in my life, checkmate immoral leftists.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

this whole thing reminds me of the blizzard bullshit, really. "i'm going to boycott blizzard! I'M SO MORAL! now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to continue to support five billion other terrible companies that don't have a controversial news story attached to them." it's just virtue signalling.

Well, it's not virtue signalling if you were actually a customer and then stopped. That's a real expression of speech and market pressure.

And the corollary is that if you were never a customer, then you can't say shit. All you can do is virtue signal. That's what I've been saying to Santa etc (and now, surprise, Extha).

That's why GGers got so incredibly sensitive and pissed by that gamasutra article. It called them out for not actually being a customer of the gaming industry just because they play 1 game now and then and then angrily post about it online the rest of the week. The implication being all they can do is virtue signal since as non-customers they have no power.

Fortunately, when we point out the atrocities that the US government and the global economy commits with our money, we are ALL customers and we ALL have a voice in that. So really that's what the tuff guys ITT should be talking about.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

don't want to put words in xiahou shake's mouth but i'm pretty sure he's not saying "stop living in society," he's saying "it's stupid to boycott chick-fil-a when you routinely support tons of other terrible gigantic corporations." people in this topic are literally acting like this: "i'm not eating chicken sandwiches at chick-fil-a anymore! GO LGBTQ! look how moral i am! *orders food at mcdonald's without thinking twice*"

this whole thing reminds me of the blizzard bullshit, really. "i'm going to boycott blizzard! I'M SO MORAL! now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to continue to support five billion other terrible companies that don't have a controversial news story attached to them." it's just virtue signalling.

This is a dumb attitude to me. Everyone is a hypocrite as a consumer, sure. This is nearly impossible to avoid. That being said, why is it "virtue signalling" to attempt to be marginally more ethical? Like I'm not gonna judge people for choosing to eat at Chick-Fil-A or play Blizzard games but if you want to not support them for moral reasons more power to you. Both of those companies turn me off.

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I never understand why, when speaking on a subject online, people constantly think this is the only issue you care about when its, especially this, is such an insignificant thing. There is proof they give money to foundations that use all their resources to eradicate the LGBT. The CEO is happy about it, hes smiling. So dont give this evil piece of shit anymore of your money no matter how good the good is. Very simple. It doesnt make anyone a saint its just the bare minimum of barely trying to be a good person and people react like its ridiculous to do.

Of course Im yelling at gay people for eating there. Why wouldnt I be? Its just that, today, its you guys talking about it when yesterday it was someone at work, weeks ago it was gay guys I know, years ago it was the comment section of willams stupid Eat at Chick fila Even if youre gay video. Why would I exist in a bubble only talking about it right here and right now?

We had no idea what Obama was going to do when he was voted in. Trump was pretty open about it and he still got voted in. Voting is a rigged game and the government is corrupt and broken, owned by corporations. I dont know what you you are referring to when youre talking to me but I dont do those things and I think your misplacing some anger out on me for someone else youre really angry at, if randomly calling me a coward when you have no idea what I have to deal with. You act like just anyone is rich enough to move their money out of USD, why dont you list more things poor people can do?

You have to support corporations in order to live in our society. Its built around supporting corporations. Thats what capitalism is. Thats why news is important; you know, to get the word out about bad shit that goes down? To do the bare minimum to be as moral as possible? If you hear a place is evil the proper response isnt oh well everything is evil *keeps eating there* its to stop! And to stop every single time. And hopefully enough people do it so they can know in some small way that these actions have consequences. They need to know that there is some consequence. Thats all we can do unless we burn it all down.

foolm0r0n posted...

Well, it's not virtue signalling if you were actually a customer and then stopped. That's a real expression of speech and market pressure.

And the corollary is that if you were never a customer, then you can't say shit. All you can do is virtue signal. That's what I've been saying to Santa etc (and now, surprise, Extha).

That's why GGers got so incredibly sensitive and pissed by that gamasutra article. It called them out for not actually being a customer of the gaming industry just because they play 1 game now and then and then angrily post about it online the rest of the week. The implication being all they can do is virtue signal since as non-customers they have no power.

Fortunately, when we point out the atrocities that the US government and the global economy commits with our money, we are ALL customers and we ALL have a voice in that. So really that's what the tuff guys ITT should be talking about.

I loved to eat at chick fila like I said earlier. It was good and didnt make me sick. I also played overwatch almost everyday. I dont do either anymore which is apparently in line with what you consider to be moral, that I actually enjoyed the things Im giving up yet you personally insult me the most calling me the ultimate coward. Dunno why.

We are forced to hand over our money to the government. Its a hostage situation. Why would you assume I dont constantly speak out against government atrocities on top of corporate atrocities?