Current Events > HIV-positive man shares the abuse he gets on Grindr for disclosing his status

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Lebronwon 11/01/19 1:19:21 PM #1:	https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/02/hiv-positive-man-grindr-abuse-twitter-tim-viral/ Tim, of Leicester, is a 29-year-old trading manager based in Coventry. His status is proudly listed on his Twitter bio and often discusses topics relating to HIV and the community. In screenshots Tim saved before being blocked, an anonymous Grindr user interrogated him asking how he acquired HIV before branding Tim an arrogant c* after he calmly outlined where the user could educate themselves on HIV. Its a conversation that bluntly began with a blank profile asking Tim just before 9am: How did you get HIV? Most people diagnosed with HIV in the UK acquire the virus through unprotected vaginal or anal sex, Tim wrote back. How did you get it, the user further questioned, from fing around or did your boyfriend give it to you? Tim responded: Why does this matter to you? Why would you ask such personal questions. Like most people in the UK, I acquired it via sex, who that was from or how that happened has nothing to do with you, especially as a blank profile. If youd like to know more, you can look at the NHS website or search for Terrence Higgins Trust. But the Grindr user in blue did not take too kindly to Tims words. Lmao [laugh my a* off] still an arrogant c* I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added. After dropping the screenshots of the colourful exchange on Twitter last weekend, it quickly tallied more than 100 replies and an outpouring of support and praise from LGBT+ users. One user said: Oh Tim thats just awful. Nothing gives him the right to speak to you like that, let alone behind the shield of an anonymity. Hes obviously got some very serious issues with his life, and is jealous of your confidence and openness to be who you are, and not shy away from it. Another added: The community is filled with ignorance, abusive behaviour, and bigotry such a shame those things were said to you. Let the world know your story and never be ashamed to talk about your life. This just makes my blood boil. Sorry you had to deal with this, said a user. Pioneering HIV campaigner and AIDSmap executive director Matthew Hodson told PinkNews that its a common reality for people living with HIV to encounter such acidic judgement both on and offline. Often theres an expectation that people living with HIV should inform any potential sexual partners before sex, he said. This is despite the fact that when someone is on effective treatment they cant pass it on to their sexual partners (often referred to as Undetectable = Untransmittable). --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:929522292] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/02/hiv-positive-man-grindr-abuse-twitter-tim-viral/ Tim, of Leicester, is a 29-year-old trading manager based in Coventry. His status is proudly listed on his Twitter bio and often discusses topics relating to HIV and the community. In screenshots Tim saved before being blocked, an anonymous Grindr user interrogated him asking how he acquired HIV before branding Tim an arrogant c* after he calmly outlined where the user could educate themselves on HIV. Its a conversation that bluntly began with a blank profile asking Tim just before 9am: How did you get HIV? Most people diagnosed with HIV in the UK acquire the virus through unprotected vaginal or anal sex, Tim wrote back. How did you get it, the user further questioned, from f*ing around or did your boyfriend give it to you? Tim responded: Why does this matter to you? Why would you ask such personal questions. Like most people in the UK, I acquired it via sex, who that was from or how that happened has nothing to do with you, especially as a blank profile. If youd like to know more, you can look at the NHS website or search for Terrence Higgins Trust. But the Grindr user in blue did not take too kindly to Tims words. Lmao [laugh my a off] still an arrogant c*** I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added. After dropping the screenshots of the colourful exchange on Twitter last weekend, it quickly tallied more than 100 replies and an outpouring of support and praise from LGBT+ users. One user said: Oh Tim thats just awful. Nothing gives him the right to speak to you like that, let alone behind the shield of an anonymity. Hes obviously got some very serious issues with his life, and is jealous of your confidence and openness to be who you are, and not shy away from it. Another added: The community is filled with ignorance, abusive behaviour, and bigotry such a shame those things were said to you. Let the world know your story and never be ashamed to talk about your life. This just makes my blood boil. Sorry you had to deal with this, said a user. Pioneering HIV campaigner and AIDSmap executive director Matthew Hodson told PinkNews that its a common reality for people living with HIV to encounter such acidic judgement both on and offline. Often theres an expectation that people living with HIV should inform any potential sexual partners before sex, he said. This is despite the fact that when someone is on effective treatment they cant pass it on to their sexual partners (often referred to as Undetectable = Untransmittable).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/01/19 1:21:36 PM #2:	That doesn't sound like abuse. Sounds like the guys he's speaking with don't want to get infected and don't like his evasive and nonchalant responses that minimize the seriousness of HIV. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:929522379] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>That doesn't sound like abuse. Sounds like the guys he's speaking with don't want to get infected and don't like his evasive and nonchalant responses that minimize the seriousness of HIV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 11/01/19 1:25:06 PM #3:	The Admiral posted... That doesn't sound like abuse. From the expert himself. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:929522533] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't sound like abuse.</quote> From the expert himself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 11/01/19 1:33:00 PM #4:	If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:929522815] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 11/01/19 1:37:19 PM #5:	more proof that the rest of the world needs to follow california's lead and decriminalize intentionally spreading HIV --- "life is overrated" - Seiichi Omori 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:929522997] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>more proof that the rest of the world needs to follow california's lead and decriminalize intentionally spreading HIV</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 11/01/19 1:39:08 PM #6:	Lmao [laugh my a off] still an arrogant c* I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added. The Admiral posted... That doesn't sound like abuse. pls --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:929523062] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Lmao [laugh my a off] still an arrogant c* I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added. The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't sound like abuse.</quote> pls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 11/01/19 1:43:40 PM #7:	It's literally just some rando being a dick on a hookup app. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:929523236] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>It's literally just some rando being a dick on a hookup app.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 1:44:34 PM #8:	The Admiral posted... That doesn't sound like abuse. Sounds like the guys he's speaking with don't want to get infected and don't like his evasive and nonchalant responses that minimize the seriousness of HIV. You cant read, huh? Even the CDC agrees that undetectable = untransmittable. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929523271] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>That doesn't sound like abuse. Sounds like the guys he's speaking with don't want to get infected and don't like his evasive and nonchalant responses that minimize the seriousness of HIV.</quote> You cant read, huh? Even the CDC agrees that undetectable = untransmittable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/01/19 1:49:02 PM #9:	We shouldn't be mean to people like that, but acting like HIV/AIDS is no big deal is just silly. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:929523479] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>We shouldn't be mean to people like that, but acting like HIV/AIDS is no big deal is just silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 11/01/19 1:51:19 PM #10:	that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:929523584] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 1:52:39 PM #11:	Southernfatman posted... We shouldn't be mean to people like that, but acting like HIV/AIDS is no big deal is just silly. How was he acting like its no big deal? He clearly stated it on his profile (mandatory disclosure for undetectable poz people is actually considered a major violation by civil rights groups, keep in mind). This guy harrassed him for no reason. Definition of discrimination. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929523652] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>We shouldn't be mean to people like that, but acting like HIV/AIDS is no big deal is just silly.</quote> How was he acting like its no big deal? He clearly stated it on his profile (mandatory disclosure for undetectable poz people is actually considered a major violation by civil rights groups, keep in mind). This guy harrassed him for no reason. Definition of discrimination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 11/01/19 1:53:31 PM #12:	thronedfire2 posted... that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it. From what I understand Grindr has an HIV section for people to put that info in their bios. And there is also a HIV positive tribe so the guy in OP did either of those things. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:929523684] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it.</quote> From what I understand Grindr has an HIV section for people to put that info in their bios. And there is also a HIV positive tribe so the guy in OP did either of those things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 11/01/19 1:54:26 PM #13:	Lebronwon posted... thronedfire2 posted... that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it. From what I understand Grindr has an HIV section for people to put that info in their bios. And there is also a HIV positive tribe so the guy in OP did either of those things. Lmao [laugh my a* off] still an arrogant c*** I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added.* idk, that didn't seem like something just some random person would say --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:929523716] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it.</quote> From what I understand Grindr has an HIV section for people to put that info in their bios. And there is also a HIV positive tribe so the guy in OP did either of those things.</quote> Lmao [laugh my a off] still an arrogant c* I see. Funny isnt it how the shallow arrogant pricks end up catching HIV. Serves you right, he added. idk, that didn't seem like something just some random person would say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brandunh11 11/01/19 2:01:44 PM #14:	thronedfire2 posted... that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it. I had the same thought when I originally read it. Particularly because of his use of the word "still" when he said "still an arrogant c-word". That makes it seem like they already had some history together. --- https://imgur.com/MDQBi2C <cite>brandunh11 posted [p:929524037] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it.</quote> I had the same thought when I originally read it. Particularly because of his use of the word "still" when he said "still an arrogant c-word". That makes it seem like they already had some history together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 11/01/19 2:05:28 PM #15:	eston posted... It's literally just some rando being a dick on a hookup app. Yeah. There's blank/faceless profiles who just initiate conversations with people only to insult them. I mean... WARNING: OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE https://www.reddit.com/r/lolgrindr/comments/dev5g0/hello/ --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:929524182] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>eston posted...</cite> <quote>It's literally just some rando being a dick on a hookup app.</quote> Yeah. There's blank/faceless profiles who just initiate conversations with people only to insult them. I mean... WARNING: OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE https://www.reddit.com/r/lolgrindr/comments/dev5g0/hello/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 2:06:38 PM #16:	thronedfire2 posted... that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it. Reminds me of this case: Consider Nick Rhoades, an HIV-positive gay man in Iowa, going about his life. Faithful adherence to his medications rendered Rhoades' HIV infection undetectable. Studies indicate those with undetectable virus are up to 96 percent less likely to transmit the virus to someone else. Rhoades arranged a sexual encounter with a man he met online. Neither of them spoke about HIV. When a friend later told the other man that Rhoades was HIV-positive, the man went to the county prosecutor and pressed charges. Despite the fact that Rhoades used a condom, had an undetectable viral load, and did not transmit the virus, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison for not disclosing his HIV status. After a year, the judge reconsidered Rhoades' sentence and released him -- but still required him to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/11/should-everyone-hiv-be-required-to-disclose-that-to-every-sexual-partner/265736/ --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929524216] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>that sounds like someone who already knew him and knew he had it.</quote> Reminds me of this case: Consider Nick Rhoades, an HIV-positive gay man in Iowa, going about his life. Faithful adherence to his medications rendered Rhoades' HIV infection undetectable. Studies indicate those with undetectable virus are up to 96 percent less likely to transmit the virus to someone else. Rhoades arranged a sexual encounter with a man he met online. Neither of them spoke about HIV. When a friend later told the other man that Rhoades was HIV-positive, the man went to the county prosecutor and pressed charges. Despite the fact that Rhoades used a condom, had an undetectable viral load, and did not transmit the virus, he was sentenced to 25 years in prison for not disclosing his HIV status. After a year, the judge reconsidered Rhoades' sentence and released him -- but still required him to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/11/should-everyone-hiv-be-required-to-disclose-that-to-every-sexual-partner/265736/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 11/01/19 2:08:20 PM #17:	Also, I know Pinknews is a bullshit propaganda site, but this is literally just a story about one bad response this guy got on a dating app. Women deal with worse shit than this literally everyday and don't get victim articles. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:929524280] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Also, I know Pinknews is a bullshit propaganda site, but this is literally just a story about one bad response this guy got on a dating app. Women deal with worse shit than this literally everyday and don't get victim articles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
goldenBoi45 11/01/19 2:08:59 PM #18:	pogo_rabid posted... If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps. The shit is literally in his profile --- Getting girls is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you're in! <cite>goldenBoi45 posted [p:929524314] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps.</quote>The shit is literally in his profile </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 11/01/19 2:11:02 PM #19:	If you have any type of sexual disease you should let the other person know before you engage in an act that could potentially transmit the disease to them. Just because theres a form of treatment doesnt mean you shouldnt have to tell someone, what if they forget to take their medication? The person without disease deserves to know. You should tell the other person about the disease and tell them youre on the medication, if they still say no then oh well. Not telling them is extremely selfish. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:929524397] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>If you have any type of sexual disease you should let the other person know before you engage in an act that could potentially transmit the disease to them. Just because theres a form of treatment doesnt mean you shouldnt have to tell someone, what if they forget to take their medication? The person without disease deserves to know. You should tell the other person about the disease and tell them youre on the medication, if they still say no then oh well. Not telling them is extremely selfish. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KillerKhan420 11/01/19 2:18:11 PM #20:	So he's an HIVaphobe. Name him shame him for not wanting to risk his health and well being! --- "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 <cite>KillerKhan420 posted [p:929524666] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>So he's an HIVaphobe. Name him shame him for not wanting to risk his health and well being!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 11/01/19 2:19:57 PM #21:	goldenBoi45 posted... pogo_rabid posted... If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps. The shit is literally in his profile Show me where I said it wasn't. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:929524722] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>goldenBoi45 posted...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>If you have an STD, you should inform potential sex partners, especially on hookup apps.</quote>The shit is literally in his profile </quote> Show me where I said it wasn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 2:20:36 PM #22:	gamer167 posted... If you have any type of sexual disease you should let the other person know before you engage in an act that could potentially transmit the disease to them. Just because theres a form of treatment doesnt mean you shouldnt have to tell someone, what if they forget to take their medication? The person without disease deserves to know. You should tell the other person about the disease and tell them youre on the medication, if they still say no then oh well. Not telling them is extremely selfish. Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929524752] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>gamer167 posted...</cite> <quote>If you have any type of sexual disease you should let the other person know before you engage in an act that could potentially transmit the disease to them. Just because theres a form of treatment doesnt mean you shouldnt have to tell someone, what if they forget to take their medication? The person without disease deserves to know. You should tell the other person about the disease and tell them youre on the medication, if they still say no then oh well. Not telling them is extremely selfish. </quote> Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 2:21:40 PM #23:	Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929524785] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/01/19 2:22:41 PM #25:	EzeDoesIt posted... Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still. Apart from method of transmission, yes, I fully admit I'm ignorant on it. Thanks. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:929524830] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>EzeDoesIt posted...</cite> <quote>Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still.</quote> Apart from method of transmission, yes, I fully admit I'm ignorant on it. Thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 2:24:22 PM #26:	CyricZ posted... EzeDoesIt posted... Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still. Apart from method of transmission, yes, I fully admit I'm ignorant on it. Thanks. The difference is you didnt go spouting off about it like you know everything as many users did ITT. Nothing wrong with ignorance in and of itself. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929524906] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>EzeDoesIt posted...</cite> <quote>Man people are really ignorant about HIV/AIDS even in 2019, huh? I mean, I know its CE, but still.</quote> Apart from method of transmission, yes, I fully admit I'm ignorant on it. Thanks.</quote> The difference is you didnt go spouting off about it like you know everything as many users did ITT. Nothing wrong with ignorance in and of itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 11/01/19 2:44:42 PM #27:	EzeDoesIt posted... Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so. I was not trying to explain how the medication works. I was trying to convey that just because the medication exists you have to gamble on the chance they are taking it correctly, or even at all. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:929525744] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>EzeDoesIt posted... </cite> <quote>Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so.</quote> I was not trying to explain how the medication works. I was trying to convey that just because the medication exists you have to gamble on the chance they are taking it correctly, or even at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/01/19 3:01:21 PM #28:	gamer167 posted... EzeDoesIt posted... Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so. I was not trying to explain how the medication works. I was trying to convey that just because the medication exists you have to gamble on the chance they are taking it correctly, or even at all. I dont see how that solves your specific problem, of these suicidal AIDS patients who are for some reason not taking their medicine that they need to stay alive. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929526517] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>gamer167 posted...</cite> <quote>EzeDoesIt posted... </cite> <quote>Thats not really how HIV/AIDS meds work. You need to be extremely religious about taking them daily. Miss more than a few days in a given sixth month period and theres a good chance the virus will build up a resistance to the meds and youll be screwed. Also you dont just miss your meds one day and all of a sudden become viral again. If youre on antiretroviral drugs, undetectable and quit them for good, cold turkey it will be months or even years before you can transmit it again. And by then youll quite possibly be sick again anyway, fatally so.</quote> I was not trying to explain how the medication works. I was trying to convey that just because the medication exists you have to gamble on the chance they are taking it correctly, or even at all. </quote> I dont see how that solves your specific problem, of these suicidal AIDS patients who are for some reason not taking their medicine that they need to stay alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feetish 11/01/19 3:07:02 PM #29:	If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it. --- Keep calm and carry on CEing <cite>Feetish posted [p:929526744] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/01/19 6:58:33 PM #30:	Feetish posted... If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it. Maybe they want to know how to get it. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:929536697] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Feetish posted...</cite> <quote>If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it.</quote> Maybe they want to know how to get it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 11/01/19 7:00:19 PM #31:	SubtletyRefuge posted... Guess we should shut down Grindr Yes please. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:929536769] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>SubtletyRefuge posted... </cite> <quote>Guess we should shut down Grindr</quote> Yes please. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/01/19 7:04:20 PM #32:	Often theres an expectation that people living with HIV should inform any potential sexual partners before sex, he said. Oh the horror, they shouldnt be expected to! --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:929536946] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote><quote>Often theres an expectation that people living with HIV should inform any potential sexual partners before sex, he said.</quote> Oh the horror, they shouldnt be expected to!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nemu 11/01/19 7:10:55 PM #33:	The conversation was definitely stupid if that's how it went down, but any attempt to destigmatize the necessary disclosure of transmittable diseases is just as dumb. <cite>nemu posted [p:929537247] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>The conversation was definitely stupid if that's how it went down, but any attempt to destigmatize the necessary disclosure of transmittable diseases is just as dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 11/02/19 7:46:21 AM #34:	1337toothbrush posted... Feetish posted... If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it. Maybe they want to know how to get it. There actually is apparently a community of people that do this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing nemu posted... The conversation was definitely stupid if that's how it went down, but any attempt to destigmatize the necessary disclosure of transmittable diseases is just as dumb. Only 19 states have laws requiring people who are aware of their HIV status to disclose it to sexual partners. Again, if its nontransmittable what is the difference? You guys are just being prejudiced. You would get torn apart by rights groups. --- "Beef is when I quote you, guaranteed to break the TOU." -The Notorious Shablagoo <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:929557289] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted...</cite> <quote>Feetish posted...</cite> <quote>If you dont want to hook up with someone who has HIV then move on to the next profile. Its totally irrelevant how anyone gets it.</quote> Maybe they want to know how to get it. </quote> There actually is apparently a community of people that do this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing nemu posted...</cite> <quote>The conversation was definitely stupid if that's how it went down, but any attempt to destigmatize the necessary disclosure of transmittable diseases is just as dumb. </quote> Only 19 states have laws requiring people who are aware of their HIV status to disclose it to sexual partners. Again, if its nontransmittable what is the difference? You guys are just being prejudiced. You would get torn apart by rights groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omasitor Hain 11/02/19 8:24:21 AM #36:	Aids is a myth, it's just an old wive's tale. --- Bojam Cramfangles. Skavissen Vumps. <cite>Omasitor Hain posted [p:929557890] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>Aids is a myth, it's just an old wive's tale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pile_of_bones 11/03/19 3:24:59 PM #38:	AlephZero posted... more proof that the rest of the world needs to follow california's lead and decriminalize intentionally spreading HIV what a disengenuous representation of the facts concerning the decriminalization --- just a pile of bones ironic s*posting leads to unironic s* beliefs, ironically <cite>pile_of_bones posted [p:929613875] in HIV-positi... [t:78126736]...</cite> <quote>AlephZero posted...</cite> <quote>more proof that the rest of the world needs to follow california's lead and decriminalize intentionally spreading HIV</quote> what a disengenuous representation of the facts concerning the decriminalization</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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