Current Events > Sweden: over 100 bombings this year.

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TheRobber
11/06/19 12:45:01 PM
#51:


Bio1590 posted...
Yes because there's so many white ethnic Swedish people running off to join ISIS that you meant something other than refugees, immigrants, and their children when referring to "returning 'ex' ISIS fighters".

imagine thinking you know Sweden better than the Swedes themselves.

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Foppe
11/06/19 12:52:18 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Mikael Skrmo for one.
(though technically i think he was a Norwegian who lived in Sweden, i might be wrong on that)
He was born in Gteborg and grew up in Gteborg, that is Swedish enough for me.

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ASithLord7
11/06/19 12:54:20 PM
#53:


TheRobber posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Yes because there's so many white ethnic Swedish people running off to join ISIS that you meant something other than refugees, immigrants, and their children when referring to "returning 'ex' ISIS fighters".

imagine thinking you know Sweden better than the Swedes themselves.

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This is a bad argument. Imagine thinking you know Germany better than pegida! Imagine thinking you know the USA better than Trump?
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Twin3Turbo
11/06/19 12:55:16 PM
#54:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Well on one hand we have a massive increase in criminal gang activity.
And on the other hand we have several hundreds of "ex" ISIS fighters who now returned and are left unchallenged able to put their experience to use.
With high probability that those two mix together.

But that's just a guess,.
As the expert said: " we can only speculate", right.
Genuinely curious because I personally don't know much about Sweden, do we have a reason as to why an increase in criminal gang activity has happened recently? That doesn't normally just happen for no reason

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ROBANN_88
11/06/19 12:56:11 PM
#55:


Foppe posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Mikael Skrmo for one.
(though technically i think he was a Norwegian who lived in Sweden, i might be wrong on that)
He was born in Gteborg and grew up in Gteborg, that is Swedish enough for me.


perhaps. i'm not gonna argue that point as i'd rather just forget about that asshole and his hopefully shallow grave.
he was a Norwegian citizen, though
https://www.expressen.se/gt/norge-om-michael-skramo-har-ratt-att-komma-tillbaka-/

i remember being surprised about it at the time, cause at first he was being presented as the Swedish ISIS fighter, but once they started loosing, i felt like they put more and more emphasis on his Norwegian background, and i never quite understood why that happened
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Foppe
11/06/19 1:01:14 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
perhaps. i'm not gonna argue that point as i'd rather just forget about that asshole and his hopefully shallow grave.
he was a Norwegian citizen, though
https://www.expressen.se/gt/norge-om-michael-skramo-har-ratt-att-komma-tillbaka-/
I thought he had dual citizenships. Doesn't really matter in the end.

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Bio1590
11/06/19 1:14:43 PM
#57:


TheRobber posted...
imagine thinking you know Sweden better than the Swedes themselves.

This has nothing to do with that.

It has everything to do with the fact that when people talk about "returning ISIS fighters" no one has in mind these handful of reverted white people (Canada has had a few too!) who ran off to fight for ISIS. It's always these refugees and immigrants and their kids.

Roban does have a known history, no one's making shit up here.
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scar the 1
11/06/19 1:15:41 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
Well on one hand we have a massive increase in criminal gang activity.
And on the other hand we have several hundreds of "ex" ISIS fighters who now returned and are left unchallenged able to put their experience to use.
With high probability that those two mix together.

But that's just a guess,.
As the expert said: " we can only speculate", right.
Genuinely curious because I personally don't know much about Sweden, do we have a reason as to why an increase in criminal gang activity has happened recently? That doesn't normally just happen for no reason

There was some criminologist on the radio talking about this, essentially saying that this is no surprise, it's an expected development that they see in a lot of areas where gang-related crime increases. I couldn't tell you the details but it's probably a hodgepodge of different factors. Social and economic segregation do play a part in terms of recruitment for gangs, I bet EU open borders play a part in availability of weapons and explosives, and so on. There's a lot of reading to be done here and there are several factors at play.

EDIT: It seems I misquoted the criminologist I heard on the radio. But I can't find the quote so I'll wait a bit
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Foppe
11/06/19 1:17:42 PM
#59:


Twin3Turbo posted...
Genuinely curious because I personally don't know much about Sweden, do we have a reason as to why an increase in criminal gang activity has happened recently? That doesn't normally just happen for no reason
If I would guess then they have seen that the Swedish police can be pretty toothless.
The Rosegrd population in Malm is over 86% immigrants, and the police, ambulance and firemen have been stopped from entering Rosengrd multiple times by gangs of stonethrowing immigrants for at least 12 years now.
"If the police cant do anything about some stonethrowing peope, what can they do against criminal gangs?"

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Foppe
11/06/19 1:21:13 PM
#60:


Bio1590 posted...
This has nothing to do with that.

It has everything to do with the fact that when people talk about "returning ISIS fighters" no one has in mind these handful of reverted white people (Canada has had a few too!) who ran off to fight for ISIS. It's always these refugees and immigrants and their kids.

Roban does have a known history, no one's making shit up here.
"Returning ISIS warriors can't be criminals because most of them are not white!"?

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scar the 1
11/06/19 1:21:16 PM
#61:


Foppe posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Genuinely curious because I personally don't know much about Sweden, do we have a reason as to why an increase in criminal gang activity has happened recently? That doesn't normally just happen for no reason
If I would guess then they have seen that the Swedish police can be pretty toothless.
The Rosegrd population in Malm is over 86% immigrants, and the police, ambulance and firemen have been stopped from entering Rosengrd multiple times by gangs of stonethrowing immigrants for at least 12 years now.
"If the police cant do anything about some stonethrowing peope, what can they do against criminal gangs?"

Yeah quite famously shootings and explosions very rarely lead to convictions. The guy in this article that the OP article is quoting: https://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/kriminolog-sprangdaden-i-sverige-unika-for-europa/
is saying that "when violence doesn't have a price you can spend a lot on it", but that with the current information the best they can do is make advanced guesswork.
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Hop103
11/06/19 1:23:35 PM
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Sweden is a failed state that Europe refuses to acknowledge as such, it's basically the Chicago of Europe.
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ROBANN_88
11/06/19 1:26:42 PM
#63:


Bio1590 posted...
It has everything to do with the fact that when people talk about "returning ISIS fighters" no one has in mind these handful of reverted white people (Canada has had a few too!) who ran off to fight for ISIS. It's always these refugees and immigrants and their kids.


again, you're the one saying that criminal ISIS figthers and peaceful refugees are one and the same cause of their race.
you and that other guy are the only one here trying to say that, and trying to force some narrative that i would for some reason share your line of thinking
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Loud_Pipes
11/06/19 1:27:20 PM
#64:


TC why do you have the 88 in your username? Isn't that a known Nazi call sign?

8th letter in alphabet is H. HH = heil hitler.
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ROBANN_88
11/06/19 1:28:16 PM
#65:


Loud_Pipes posted...
TC why do you have the 88 in your username? Isn't that a known Nazi call sign?

8th letter in alphabet is H. HH = heil hitler.


year of birth. had that name long before i ever heard of that connection.
i have made that clear many times

though, it is a fair question
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scar the 1
11/06/19 1:32:16 PM
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What's the deal with all the blabber about ISIS ITT? Most of the bombings here are gang-related, we had like one ISIS bomb and the guy just blew himself up.
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ROBANN_88
11/06/19 1:38:27 PM
#67:


scar the 1 posted...
What's the deal with all the blabber about ISIS ITT? Most of the bombings here are gang-related, we had like one ISIS bomb and the guy just blew himself up.


at one point someone asked what caused it, i made the hypothesis that it could be gang related or maybe the returned ISIS fighters as they have experience, not really thinking much about it. seeing as, what was the report last time, like 150-200 are known to have returned?

then for some reason, these morons took "ISIS fighter", used their own prejudices and made a strawman suggesting that was somehow code for "all foreigners", and tried to push their ideas on me, so they could toss out a "how dare you blame this on every refugee in the country, you racist... bla bla bla"

and then the rest devolved into this shit

i should have known better than to expect CE to behave
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Foppe
11/06/19 1:43:41 PM
#68:


scar the 1 posted...
What's the deal with all the blabber about ISIS ITT? Most of the bombings here are gang-related, we had like one ISIS bomb and the guy just blew himself up.
Returning ISIS warriors got the kind of experience that criminal gangs want, so Robban guessed that there was a chance of them joining different criminal gangs, and then we discovered that it wasnt political correct to assume that returning ISIS warriors are not the perfect law-abiding citizen.

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scar the 1
11/06/19 3:35:12 PM
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Oh I get it. Yeah there's a logic to it but I would expect the ISIS fighters to be monitored mega closely. I get the impression that essentially police know more or less who does the shootings and bombings, it's just that it's difficult to prove anything
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DeadBankerDream
11/06/19 3:40:33 PM
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How many of the 100 bombings were in Malm?
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Loud_Pipes
11/06/19 3:52:50 PM
#71:


ROBANN_88 posted...
Loud_Pipes posted...
TC why do you have the 88 in your username? Isn't that a known Nazi call sign?

8th letter in alphabet is H. HH = heil hitler.


year of birth. had that name long before i ever heard of that connection.
i have made that clear many times

though, it is a fair question


i see. ok then. i genuinely did not know it is your birth year. but ok.
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ROBANN_88
11/06/19 3:55:48 PM
#72:


DeadBankerDream posted...
How many of the 100 bombings were in Malm?


i haven't seen reports that specific, but it is said that atleast a third of them is in "Region South" which includes Malm
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