Current Events > Will you celebrate when Trump loses in 2020?

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Caution998 posted...

You think everyone hates him but its an illusion.

The majority of Americans dont have a Twitter account and use Twitter. The media is all over him creating more of an illusion that nobody likes him.

when it comes down to it, Trump is basically going up against socialism if Warren or Sanders win. Thats a problem.

A lot of people on Twitter also hate him only because he's too liberal. There's a surprisingly vibrant conservative community on there beyond the MAGA cultists.

Probably just a relieved sigh at best.

Im not American, so the impact he has had on my country is limited... though not nonexistent AFAIK.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

Dude, we played this game already. Even the most right leaning poll you could find (Rasmussen) had him tied with Obama in approval ratings. That's fucking abysmal. Take the rest of the polls into account, along with the popularity of impeachment being on the rise, and you've got a not-so-great looking picture for Trump. Also, factor in that a large amount of Democrats idiotically stayed home because they thought Hillary had it in the bag. You won't see such complacency this time. Simply by numbers, high voter turnout favors Democrats more than Republicans and with as high profile as 2020 will be, I see record breaking turnout to oust the buffoon.

Honestly, you're putting too much faith into a poll a YEAR before the election. They're completely irrelevant this far out.

Rural areas aren't going to say "I voted for Trump last time, but since I hate him so much this time....Ehhh,,,yeah, let's try socialism or socialist policies"

Not going to happen. Your best bet is to nominate a moderate Democrat, and Biden fits that mold...but he's really aging badly and nobody really likes the guy.

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Caution998 posted...

Rural areas aren't going to say "I voted for Trump last time, but since I hate him so much this time....Ehhh,,,yeah, let's try socialism or socialist policies"

They just won't vote. Which won't help Trump win.
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You're not giving people in these rural areas enough credit. They know the economy could nose dive and they could lose their jobs. Right now, they've got a good thing. Business owners won't want to give up tax cuts and stifle the economy. Blue collar workers don't care about your social issues.

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Fossil posted...

This board will lose their minds when he wins again.

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He really *should* be easy to beat but it does seem the democrats are insistent on running a weak candidate so that its up in the air until the last minute. >_>

Like someone else mentioned, Biden has really aged terrible in four years--he could've won in 2016 but now he seems a lot more confused than he used to. I think he would be a good candidate otherwise--he wins back PA and plays well in those other rust belt, blue collar, blue dog democrat type states that Trump managed to win by a teeny-tiny margin.

But I don't see Bernie or Warren doing that.

Maybe Mayor Pete? I dunno.

Bernie or Warren will have the base of course but I think they lose a chunk of the union worker types that normally go blue (but didn't entirely for Hillary) and they won't play to the independents and moderate republicans that want a Romney or Kasich, not a Trump. Tulsi plays well to that group I think but she's never getting the nomination.
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Caution998 posted...

You're not giving people in these rural areas enough credit. They know the economy could nose dive and they could lose their jobs. Right now, they've got a good thing. Business owners won't want to give up tax cuts and stifle the economy. Blue collar workers don't care about your social issues.

Rural areas are already going to lose their jobs and nothing Trump can do will change that.
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Yes.

Yes I will.

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Tmaster148 posted...

Rural areas are already going to lose their jobs and nothing Trump can do will change that.

Trump will keep the coal industry alive. Progressive candidates will take that away.

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Caution998 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

Rural areas are already going to lose their jobs and nothing Trump can do will change that.

Trump will keep the coal industry alive. Progressive candidates will take that away.

LOL

You poor delusional soul.
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The Top Crusader posted...

He really *should* be easy to beat but it does seem the democrats are insistent on running a weak candidate so that its up in the air until the last minute. >_>

Like someone else mentioned, Biden has really aged terrible in four years--he could've won in 2016 but now he seems a lot more confused than he used to. I think he would be a good candidate otherwise--he wins back PA and plays well in those other rust belt, blue collar, blue dog democrat type states that Trump managed to win by a teeny-tiny margin.

But I don't see Bernie or Warren doing that.

Maybe Mayor Pete? I dunno.

Bernie or Warren will have the base of course but I think they lose a chunk of the union worker types that normally go blue (but didn't entirely for Hillary) and they won't play to the independents and moderate republicans that want a Romney or Kasich, not a Trump. Tulsi plays well to that group I think but she's never getting the nomination.

I'm very right-wing, and I would be a lot more worried about Warren or Sanders than a geriatric old man or Buttjudge. Hell I kind of have a fondness for both of them myself.
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Caution998 posted...

Rural areas aren't going to say "I voted for Trump last time, but since I hate him so much this time....Ehhh,,,yeah, let's try socialism or socialist policies"

Tell that to Lee J. Carter.

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Biden or Warren would ONLY worry me if they were able to get Michelle Obama or Oprah as VP picks.

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Second option.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Minmay23 posted...

I'm very right-wing, and I would be a lot more worried about Warren or Sanders than a geriatric old man or Buttjudge. Hell I kind of have a fondness for both of them myself.

Is this the Horseshoe Theory in practice?

Maybe? I'm not even on the same end of the spectrum on economics, which is less common than you'd think it is these days on the right. I just have a lot more respect for what looks like principle and charm than I do for the SJW neolib business-as-usual types of the Democratic Party.
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Caution998 posted...

Biden or Warren would ONLY worry me if they were able to get Michelle Obama or Oprah as VP picks.

What about the Rock?

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Unless Bernie Sanders wins 2020, there will be nothing to celebrate.

Omnislasher posted...

Unless Bernie Sanders wins 2020, there will be nothing to celebrate.

Warren would be an okay consolation prize

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Bloodychess posted...

What about the Rock?

Nope. Michelle Obama and Oprah are FAR SUPERIOR public speakers. They have charisma and chemistry with regular people. Michelle Obama, still in my mind, had one of the best speeches I've ever heard in my life.

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Prediction: chances are very low for Dems to win unless they somehow involve Oprah Winfrey or Michelle Obama in a heavy role. Get one of them, and you've got me crapping my pants pretty much.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

Minmay23 posted...

I just have a lot more respect for what looks like principle and charm

You aren't a Trump supporter then?

I like Trump supporters.
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Can he even run again if he is impeached before then?

Gafemage posted...

I rarely see DE post here anymore, didn't really notice until now.

That's because he's actually a leftist satirizing Trump supporters. When it's just nonsensical slurping, he'll troll around. But he doesn't want to risk helping the conspiracies spread, so he's been mostly silent since the Ukraine call
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Gafemage posted...

I rarely see DE post here anymore, didn't really notice until now.

That's because he's actually a leftist satirizing Trump supporters. When it's just nonsensical slurping, he'll troll around. But he doesn't want to risk helping the conspiracies spread, so he's been mostly silent since the Ukraine call

I'm not a leftist. I simply haven't felt much like posting lately.
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You should break character again.
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I have no character to be broken.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Minmay23 posted...

I like Trump supporters.

So you don't support trump but you support his supporters? Again, I am confused because you claim to like principles and charm.

You're trying to be cute. Use your imagination and try to figure out why someone on the right would align more with the Republicans than the Democrats. I like the movement that's behind him, that is my answer to you. As a president he is too similar to Bush but that is essentially the theme of my biggest criticisms of him.
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Tmaster148 posted...

Trump could probably eat shit during a rally and his supporters would cheer.

To be fair I would cheer too while laughing my ass off if he ate shit.

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Caution998 posted...

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stop exaggerating. Nobody sane wishes to go back to slavery or give women less rights. Come on now.

We already know Trump supporters aren't sane.
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Caution998 posted...

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stop exaggerating. Nobody sane wishes to go back to slavery or give women less rights. Come on now.

Caution advocating for Planned Parenthood?
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*facepalm*

I just don't get why you guys are so extreme.

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Caution998 posted...

I just don't get why you guys are so extreme.

Supporting women's rights is extreme?

You heard it here first folks.

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I won't celebrate but I will be very content

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bover_87 posted...

Supporting women's rights is extreme?

You heard it here first folks.

deliberately being obtuse and misinterpreting my post on purpose.

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Yikes, what'd he say to me? lol
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Women's rights: XTREEM
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Minmay23 posted...

The Top Crusader posted...

He really *should* be easy to beat but it does seem the democrats are insistent on running a weak candidate so that its up in the air until the last minute. >_>

Like someone else mentioned, Biden has really aged terrible in four years--he could've won in 2016 but now he seems a lot more confused than he used to. I think he would be a good candidate otherwise--he wins back PA and plays well in those other rust belt, blue collar, blue dog democrat type states that Trump managed to win by a teeny-tiny margin.

But I don't see Bernie or Warren doing that.

Maybe Mayor Pete? I dunno.

Bernie or Warren will have the base of course but I think they lose a chunk of the union worker types that normally go blue (but didn't entirely for Hillary) and they won't play to the independents and moderate republicans that want a Romney or Kasich, not a Trump. Tulsi plays well to that group I think but she's never getting the nomination.

I'm very right-wing, and I would be a lot more worried about Warren or Sanders than a geriatric old man or Buttjudge. Hell I kind of have a fondness for both of them myself.

Same, too early to say (and obviously we don't know who will be the nominee anyway) but I think I could maybe be talked into crossing party lines and voting Biden or Mayor. Warren or Sanders, I probably don't vote, vote actual conservative that is running third party like last time.
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