Current Events > Judge Overrules Jury That Blocked Father From Stopping Son's Gender Transition!

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BREAKING

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2019/10/24/breaking-judge-rules-father-of-james-young-can-have-say-in-transgender-transition-n2555326

All week long, #ProtectJamesYounger trended on Twitter with numerous advocates demanding a higher court intervene to stop the transgender transition imposed by his mother. Jefferey Younger's website, SaveJames.com, had the following message regarding why he did not want his son to under transgender transitions

On Thursday, a Texas Judge overruled a jury that decided on Monday that Jefferey Younger, father of seven-year-old boy James Younger, had no conservatorship of his children in terms of medical decisions. This meant that James' mother and Younger's ex-wife, Dr. Anne Georgulas, would have been allowed to continue chemical castration and other gender-changing medical procedures such as puberty blockers, despite the father's wishes. However, the court's ruling today grants conservatorship back Mr. Younger as well as Dr. Georgulas

The judge presiding over the case of Jeffrey Younger, the father who is trying to protect his seven-year-old son, James, from chemical castration via a gender transition, ruled today that the parents will have joint conservatorship over James, which includes making joint medical decisions for the child.

She was also asking that Jeff be forbidden from calling his son James his given and legal name and that he be prohibited from bringing James around people who do not affirm James as a girl.

Posobiec, lifesitenews, lmao
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THANK YOU to those who helped save James!
#ProtectJamesYounger

UIti posted...

chemical castration

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And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

OctilIery posted...

And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

R1masher posted...

UIti posted...

chemical castration

7 year old boy

Nall posted...

I dont really understand this story.

A mother is forcing her 7 year old kid to change genders via chemical castration and the dad is trying to stop it
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OctilIery posted...

And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

Go to hell

*looks at account creation date of OP*

...proudclad topic

And no, no kid that young would even be on puberty blockers, that entire Boogeyman is spread by transphobic people like the father in this story and they don't actually care about the facts. At this age, all that's entailed is socially allowing the daughter to present herself as her actual gender and by a name she prefers.
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UIti posted...

OctilIery posted...

And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

R1masher posted...

UIti posted...

chemical castration

7 year old boy

Who is approved for puberty blockers by professionals who have evaluated him, while his father has a history of refusing to acknowledge any of the child's desires and inflicting tons of psychological scarring with his behavior.

The only one being abusive here is the father.

Irony posted...

Nall posted...

I dont really understand this story.

A mother is forcing her 7 year old kid to change genders via chemical castration and the dad is trying to stop it

Literally wrong in every detail.

EIiza posted...

Do we actually know what the kid wants to do? Like did he say?

We have several professionals certifying that the kid is identifying as female of her own volition and the dad is actively refusing to let the kid express herself as such, and is causing severe psychological trauma.

OctilIery posted...

EIiza posted...

Do we actually know what the kid wants to do? Like did he say?

We have several professionals certifying that the kid is identifying as female of her own volition and the dad is actively refusing to let the kid express herself as such, and is causing severe psychological trauma.

We also have video evidence of the boy saying that his mom told him he had to be a girl, and if he didnt use the name she chose and dress as one there would be consequences at home.

On other videos submitted to evidence against the mother theres footage of the boy saying he wants to be a boy like his friends and also doesnt understand why mommy is making him do this.

UIti posted...

OctilIery posted...

EIiza posted...

Do we actually know what the kid wants to do? Like did he say?

We have several professionals certifying that the kid is identifying as female of her own volition and the dad is actively refusing to let the kid express herself as such, and is causing severe psychological trauma.

We also have video evidence of the boy saying that his mom told him he had to be a girl, and if he didnt use the name she chose and dress as one there would be consequences at home.

On other videos submitted to evidence against the mother theres footage of the boy saying he wants to be a boy like his friends and also doesnt understand why mommy is making him do this.

Videos of him talking are not reliable evidence because we don't know what happened behind the scenes and what kind of coaching happened to lead to it.

Expert testimony is evidence, though, is reliable evidence because it's being done in a setting where they can reliably get past any coaching the girl has.

EIiza posted...

Do we actually know what the kid wants to do?

negi and octillery clearly don't, but that's never stopped them from making biased posts before lol

negi is typically serious about this stuff for personal reasons
octillery is just running his contrarian gimmick into the ground as usual, if you haven't been paying attention...
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The so called "mother" wasn't even the kid's mother. She had no biological connection to the boy and forced fed him her own agenda for her own self-gratification.
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OctilIery posted...

And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

You're sick. Go get some help.

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Tropicalwood posted...

The so called "mother" wasn't even the kid's mother. She had no biological connection to the boy and forced fed him her own agenda for her own self-gratification.

Ya its pretty insane

So much misinformation!

The father is some religious crackpot who refuses to let Luna present as a girl, to the point of not keeping any girl clothes at home where the mother always has the option of boy or girl clothes. His "supporters" include some friends who met after the divorce, a pastor who met Luna like 3 times in passing, and a crazy journalist with an anti-transgender agenda mixed with Orthodox religion.

CPS was called on the mother, and confirmed with Luna's brother, Luna's teacher, and Luna herself (in private) that she wanted to present as a girl and never felt like she was pressured. A pediatrician as well as a therapist specializing in LGBTQ+ issues diagnosed Luna with gender dysphoria.

There is 0 evidence that the mother is forcing this upon her daughter, nor is she seeking fame or virtue or whatever shes been accused of. She has faced death threats and harassment resulting in her deleting her Twitter. She has released a single public statement begging for people to leave her and Luna alone. There is much, much more evidence pointing to the father being a child abuser, rejecting Luna based on his religious bigotry and not some legitimately concerned father worried about some liberal agenda.

Hormone blockers aren't even on the table. Their current treatment is allow Luna to present as herself and wait until she's 9 or so to even consider hormone blockers.

The story was broke by Christian conservatives who spun misinformation before the trial, and the original story was passed by right wing media sources and pundits. That's why so many people are running with misinformation.

I recommend watching this video, the creator looked into all the sources and journalists, videos of the father's speeches, the doctors and therapist involved in the case, and court testimony if the other stuff isn't objective enough.

https://youtu.be/jvjHn6QEgh4

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^ transphobes don't care about facts.

Incidentally, that whole "she's not the biological mother" thing is irrelevant, if she legally adopted the kids while married then her seeking custody in the divorce is more than fair game, especially if it's in a case like this where it's in the best interest of the child.

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gunplagirl posted...

especially if it's in a case like this where it's in the best interest of the child.

lol

You guys are nuts
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tagging so i remember to come back after this topic hits 500 posts for a good chuckle
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gunplagirl posted...

*looks at account creation date of OP*

...proudclad topic

And no, no kid that young would even be on puberty blockers, that entire Boogeyman is spread by transphobic people like the father in this story and they don't actually care about the facts. At this age, all that's entailed is socially allowing the daughter to present herself as her actual gender and by a name she prefers.

The kid chooses to attend school as a boy though, which seems to suggest he only wants to be a girl when he is with the mother. This story is so fucked up and i think both parents need to lose custody so unbiased professionals can establish what is best for the child. This seems to be a case of the mom wanted a girl the dad wanted a son theyre both shitty people who divorced and are weaponizing the child against one another.

I feel for the kid and hope this shit doesnt ruin his/her life whatever his/her choice really is.
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How long were they married?
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OctilIery posted...

Who is approved for puberty blockers by professionals who have evaluated him, while his father has a history of refusing to acknowledge any of the child's desires and inflicting tons of psychological scarring with his behavior.

The only one being abusive here is the father.

this, end of story. no further responses needed
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OctilIery posted...

UIti posted...

OctilIery posted...

And it'll get reinstated. Because the mother is in the right.

R1masher posted...

UIti posted...

chemical castration

7 year old boy

Who is approved for puberty blockers by professionals who have evaluated him, while his father has a history of refusing to acknowledge any of the child's desires and inflicting tons of psychological scarring with his behavior.

The only one being abusive here is the father.

If those professionals are correct, why is he attending school as a boy?

Oh, yeah - because he isn't trans.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

So much misinformation!

The father is some religious crackpot who refuses to let Luna present as a girl, to the point of not keeping any girl clothes at home where the mother always has the option of boy or girl clothes. His "supporters" include some friends who met after the divorce, a pastor who met Luna like 3 times in passing, and a crazy journalist with an anti-transgender agenda mixed with Orthodox religion.

CPS was called on the mother, and confirmed with Luna's brother, Luna's teacher, and Luna herself (in private) that she wanted to present as a girl and never felt like she was pressured. A pediatrician as well as a therapist specializing in LGBTQ+ issues diagnosed Luna with gender dysphoria.

There is 0 evidence that the mother is forcing this upon her daughter, nor is she seeking fame or virtue or whatever shes been accused of. She has faced death threats and harassment resulting in her deleting her Twitter. She has released a single public statement begging for people to leave her and Luna alone. There is much, much more evidence pointing to the father being a child abuser, rejecting Luna based on his religious bigotry and not some legitimately concerned father worried about some liberal agenda.

Hormone blockers aren't even on the table. Their current treatment is allow Luna to present as herself and wait until she's 9 or so to even consider hormone blockers.

The story was broke by Christian conservatives who spun misinformation before the trial, and the original story was passed by right wing media sources and pundits. That's why so many people are running with misinformation.

I recommend watching this video, the creator looked into all the sources and journalists, videos of the father's speeches, the doctors and therapist involved in the case, and court testimony if the other stuff isn't objective enough.

https://youtu.be/jvjHn6QEgh4

ok, now no further responses needed. this covers literally everything relevant. anyone in favor of the father is flat out evil and doesnt give an ounce of shit about the child.
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gunplagirl posted...

^ transphobes don't care about facts.

Well the court of law certainly does and they sided with the Father here.

James wants to attend school as a boy which is also what he is. Let him be a child and quit trying to force this stuff on a 7 year old

If 7 year olds can make decisions like this, we should also have them run for office and drive cars.

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NonDairyMiltank posted...

octillery is just running his contrarian gimmick into the ground as usual, if you haven't been paying attention...

Except I'm not being contrarion, I'm going off the actual facts of the case...

darkjedilink posted...

If those professionals are correct, why is he attending school as a boy?Oh, yeah - because he isn't trans.

Could be any number of reasons. Could be that she isn't and your information is bullshit. Could be she doesn't feel comfortable doing it at school. Could be her abusive father has rubbed off on her and made it uncomfortable among strangers.

But no, I'm sure your single piece of anecdotal evidence outweighs multiple professionals.

Archibleedies posted...

Blue_Dream87 posted...

So much misinformation!

The father is some religious crackpot who refuses to let Luna present as a girl, to the point of not keeping any girl clothes at home where the mother always has the option of boy or girl clothes. His "supporters" include some friends who met after the divorce, a pastor who met Luna like 3 times in passing, and a crazy journalist with an anti-transgender agenda mixed with Orthodox religion.

CPS was called on the mother, and confirmed with Luna's brother, Luna's teacher, and Luna herself (in private) that she wanted to present as a girl and never felt like she was pressured. A pediatrician as well as a therapist specializing in LGBTQ+ issues diagnosed Luna with gender dysphoria.

There is 0 evidence that the mother is forcing this upon her daughter, nor is she seeking fame or virtue or whatever shes been accused of. She has faced death threats and harassment resulting in her deleting her Twitter. She has released a single public statement begging for people to leave her and Luna alone. There is much, much more evidence pointing to the father being a child abuser, rejecting Luna based on his religious bigotry and not some legitimately concerned father worried about some liberal agenda.

Hormone blockers aren't even on the table. Their current treatment is allow Luna to present as herself and wait until she's 9 or so to even consider hormone blockers.

The story was broke by Christian conservatives who spun misinformation before the trial, and the original story was passed by right wing media sources and pundits. That's why so many people are running with misinformation.

I recommend watching this video, the creator looked into all the sources and journalists, videos of the father's speeches, the doctors and therapist involved in the case, and court testimony if the other stuff isn't objective enough.

https://youtu.be/jvjHn6QEgh4

ok, now no further responses needed. this covers literally everything relevant. anyone in favor of the father is flat out evil and doesnt give an ounce of shit about the child.

What an "unbiased" response I'm sure "all sides were considered here"

Caution998 posted...

If 7 year olds can make decisions like this, we should also have them run for office and drive cars.

That doesnt fit the agenda though so apparently it's not worth fighting for currently

ok boomer
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Is this Ulti from Board 8?
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OctilIery posted...

Videos of him talking are not reliable evidence because we don't know what happened behind the scenes and what kind of coaching happened to lead to it.

Expert testimony is evidence, though, is reliable evidence because it's being done in a setting where they can reliably get past any coaching the girl has.

There it is. The stupidest thing I've read today.

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UIti posted...

Well the court of law certainly does and they sided with the Father here.

No, they didn't. The father wished the court to remove the mothers custody, the mother still has custody.

Caution998 posted...

If 7 year olds can make decisions like this, we should also have them run for office and drive cars.

There's a world of differece between decided what to be called or what to wear, and running the country or driving vehicles.

gunplagirl posted...

At this age, all that's entailed is socially allowing the daughter to present herself as her actual gender and by a name she prefers.

UIti posted...

We also have video evidence of the boy saying that his mom told him he had to be a girl, and if he didnt use the name she chose and dress as one there would be consequences at home.

On other videos submitted to evidence against the mother theres footage of the boy saying he wants to be a boy like his friends and also doesnt understand why mommy is making him do this.

OctilIery posted...

Videos of him talking are not reliable evidence

And this here is pretty much the entire "debate" in a nutshell.
"The child should be allowed to be whatever they want to be"
" I have this video of the child saying he wants to be a boy"
"Well, you know, it's not really about what they say..."

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Good! Good on the judge for not letting this disgusting shit keep happening to god damn children.

Agnostic420 posted...

Good! Good on the judge for not letting this disgusting shit keep happening to god damn children.

what disgusting shit
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s0nicfan posted...

gunplagirl posted...

At this age, all that's entailed is socially allowing the daughter to present herself as her actual gender and by a name she prefers.

UIti posted...

We also have video evidence of the boy saying that his mom told him he had to be a girl, and if he didnt use the name she chose and dress as one there would be consequences at home.

On other videos submitted to evidence against the mother theres footage of the boy saying he wants to be a boy like his friends and also doesnt understand why mommy is making him do this.

OctilIery posted...

Videos of him talking are not reliable evidence

And this here is pretty much the entire "debate" in a nutshell.
"The child should be allowed to be whatever they want to be"
" I have this video of the child saying he wants to be a boy"
"Well, you know, it's not really about what they say..."

You're right it's about what they DO not what they say.
So here

https://i.imgur.com/MCrW6m7.png

Mr_E_Man posted...

OctilIery posted...

Videos of him talking are not reliable evidence because we don't know what happened behind the scenes and what kind of coaching happened to lead to it.

Expert testimony is evidence, though, is reliable evidence because it's being done in a setting where they can reliably get past any coaching the girl has.

There it is. The stupidest thing I've read today.

And yet you can't say how it's wrong.

s0nicfan posted...

And this here is pretty much the entire "debate" in a nutshell."The child should be allowed to be whatever they want to be"" I have this video of the child saying he wants to be a boy""Well, you know, it's not really about what they say..."

Kids can be influenced easily, especially by parents. So a video with the behind the scenes context is not viable evidence. The same would apply if she was saying she wants to be a girl. That's why we refer to experts that are trained to get that context and figure out what the child wants, as well as determining what influences there are on kids. They are an unbiased and relevant source of information.

OctilIery posted...

Kids can be influenced easily, especially by parents. So a video with the behind the scenes context is not viable evidence. The same would apply if she was saying she wants to be a girl. That's why we refer to experts that are trained to get that context and figure out what the child wants, as well as determining what influences there are on kids. They are an unbiased and relevant source of information.

sonicfan is a smart guy he didn't need that explanation
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Archibleedies posted...

OctilIery posted...

Kids can be influenced easily, especially by parents. So a video with the behind the scenes context is not viable evidence. The same would apply if she was saying she wants to be a girl. That's why we refer to experts that are trained to get that context and figure out what the child wants, as well as determining what influences there are on kids. They are an unbiased and relevant source of information.

sonicfan is a smart guy he didn't need that explanation

And yet his comment shows he does.

OctilIery posted...

And yet his comment shows he does.

im saying he's not being earnest
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Ugh why do people insist on spreading so much disinformation about this case? No one is getting castrated, medical professionals who actually talked to the child aided against the father, and the father kept a blog about his child in order to lie about what was going on for political support.
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King_Hutton posted...

Ugh why do people insist on spreading so much disinformation about this case? No one is getting castrated, medical professionals who actually talked to the child aided against the father, and the father kept a blog about his child in order to lie about what was going on for political support.

you know why man. people hate trans people for being different, then they work backwards from that conclusion to justify it
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