Board 8 > How would they do in a contest? Day 164 ft Pak E. Derm, T-1000, Ghirahim

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half_silver28
11/11/19 9:45:47 PM
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This is a topic to rate the contest strength of potential newcomers in the current contest environment.

I will pick the characters to rate and discuss for each day from user nominations - whoever the 3 most nominated characters are at that time. If there are more than 3 I will pick randomly. You can nominate any number of characters at any time, but you cannot nominate the same character twice.

All characters who were present in the 2018 Character Battle will NOT be eligible. Otherwise you can nominate any character that has appeared in video games; even comic book characters. This will exclude real-life athletes who have only appeared in long running sports series, however I will accept those who have their own games such as Shaq. I will accept nominations for iconic gaming duos too, if there is a compelling reason for both characters to be linked (either co-starring in a game ala Banjo & Kazooie, or always appearing together like Callie & Marie from Splatoon).

Each day will have a separate topic, and nominations will carry over. As far as actually rating the character's contest strength; I ask that users rank a characters potential strength with one of the following qualifiers - LAW Fodder, Low Fodder, Mid Fodder, High Fodder, Fodder Line, Low Midcarder, Midcarder, High Midcarder, Near Elite, Elite, LAW Tier (capable of beating Link). I will average all the ratings given to a character to come up with their final ranking. I have included a highlighted entrant from Character Battle X on each tier of the strength rankings below, to provide a baseline for each.

Note that LAW Fodder is meant to be a tier reserved for the weakest possible characters to put into a contest. A character will only be placed there if at least 3/4ths of the voters for that day agree on the LAW Fodder rating, and no ratings above Low Fodder are given. If either of those conditions are not met, the character will not be eligible for the LAW Fodder tier.

Current Character Strength Rankings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1AIhHywBiLd6VAMZMNEGX-HW2td8u1D0Iw_tzHsORw/edit?usp=sharing

Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KnSBDzppzPK5Ug1zmx8_x0bG4tqFDMPPH2k8J3s8sk/edit?usp=sharing

Results from Day 163:

Tetra (Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker) is a Low Midcarder
Arthur Morgan (Red Dead Redemption 2) is Mid Fodder
Chex Warrior (Chex Quest) is Low Fodder

Here is today's trio to rank:

Pak E. Derm (Yoshi's Story)
T-1000 (Terminator 2)
Ghirahim (Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword)
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BlueCrystalTear
11/11/19 10:02:14 PM
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Pak E. Derm: Low Fodder. I don't even remember this guy from Yoshi's Story. Not everybody played that game, and half of those who did didn't particularly care for it. I can't think of any reason why this one would beat much of anybody, but there might be some nostalgia from enough voters to avoid LAW Fodder. If Chex Warrior isn't LAW Fodder, neither is a character with the name "Pak E. Derm."

T-1000: Low Fodder. A movie that's going on 30 y/o now on a site where most of us were in diapers/Pull-Ups or not born yet at that time isn't going to amount to much. I think this one misses the demographic of this site by 4-5 years - the action movie love starts in 1995 with GoldenEye.

Ghirahim: Low Fodder. Is a Zelda antagonist and all, but Skyward Snore has a terrible reputation (because it IS terrible). Groose, the only well-liked character from SS, only got 25% on Yoshimitsu and Lu Bu, thus being Mid Fodder, and he's definitely even weaker than that six years after the fact. Ghirahim is even weaker than Groose, and it's pretty shocking that a major Zelda villain can be Low Fodder, but here we are.
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MetalmindStats
11/11/19 10:07:09 PM
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I would be shocked if Ghirahim is weaker than Groose. Groose is practically a joke character who's not even all that well-liked among SS's fanbase, let alone everyone else, whereas Ghirahim at least seems to be more well-liked.

Regardless, Low Fodder for all three.
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BlueCrystalTear
11/11/19 10:09:55 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Groose is practically a joke character who's not even all that well-liked among SS's fanbase let alone everyone else, whereas Ghirahim at least seems to be more well-liked.

Where did you get this? In 2013, Groose had a GREAT reputation among that game's fans, because he was a character with actual development in a Zelda game. Everybody legit liked him. Meanwhile, Ghirahim is the joke because he's really bad at being the bad guy.

Perhaps you have them mixed up?
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half_silver28
11/11/19 10:23:36 PM
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Agree with Low Fodder for Pak and T-1000.

For Ghirahim I will say Mid Fodder because I do think he'll be stronger than Groose, and he is pretty recognizable as the main antagonist of a mainline Zelda game - despite it being one of the weaker ones.
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Shonen_Bat
11/11/19 11:17:34 PM
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I'd argue Mid Fodder for Ghirahim mostly because he was in Hyrule Warriors, which should give him a bit of recognition outside of his one bad game

Agreed on Low Fodder for the other two
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LinkMarioSamus
11/12/19 4:21:06 AM
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I nominated Pak E. Derm because of his Smash presence.
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AxemRedRanger
11/12/19 11:08:40 AM
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Pak E. Derm (Yoshi's Story) - LAW fodder

Obscure, no real joke appeal, and not even people who like his game will care.

T-1000 (Terminator 2) - Low fodder
Ghirahim (Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword) - Low fodder

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half_silver28
11/12/19 10:05:49 PM
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