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scar the 1
11/14/19 4:17:26 AM
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I tried asking for a comment on a moderation I still think is kinda sketchy on HH, but I got no replies. I realize yall don't want to be flooded by bad faith bickering, so I'm just asking if it's possible to get at all. Like is there some other ask a mod board or something that I'm just unaware of?

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Parappa09
11/14/19 4:50:43 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Cheers
cultural appropriation

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scar the 1
11/14/19 4:51:29 AM
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Parappa09 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Cheers
cultural appropriation

How dare you, I'm friends with many British
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Parappa09
11/14/19 5:37:36 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
How dare you, I'm friends with many British
  1. what's the best foods to eat in the morning when you're hungover?
  2. what do you say before you drink a pint?
  3. when someone accidentally bumps into you, what do you say?

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scar the 1
11/14/19 5:50:39 AM
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Parappa09 posted...
scar the 1 posted...
How dare you, I'm friends with many British
<ol><li>what's the best foods to eat in the morning when you're hungover?</li><li>what do you say before you drink a pint?</li><li>when someone accidentally bumps into you, what do you say?</li></ol>

1. Cheers
2. Cheers
3. Cheers
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Parappa09
11/14/19 6:00:03 AM
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i like your banter

ur one of us

mods give this guy an answer

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scar the 1
11/14/19 6:05:37 AM
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Cheers bruv
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ssj3vegeta_
11/14/19 6:39:06 AM
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Citrik
11/14/19 6:52:15 AM
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There are no official channels, nor are we able to leave feedback in disputes. However, your moderation was fair, as generalizing a country as a terrorist organization without any context whatsoever is not something that belongs on the boards.
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scar the 1
11/14/19 6:56:29 AM
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Citrik posted...
There are no official channels, nor are we able to leave feedback in disputes. However, your moderation was fair, as generalizing a country as a terrorist organization without any context whatsoever is not something that belongs on the boards.

So if I had been more specific, i.e., listing motivations for why, then would it not have been offensive?
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AirFresh
11/14/19 6:57:19 AM
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Citrik
11/14/19 9:23:56 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Citrik posted...
There are no official channels, nor are we able to leave feedback in disputes. However, your moderation was fair, as generalizing a country as a terrorist organization without any context whatsoever is not something that belongs on the boards.

So if I had been more specific, i.e., listing motivations for why, then would it not have been offensive?

Had the subject been something to the effect of discussing the quote you mentioned in your dispute, it may have been fine. Again that depends on phrasing, intention, context, etc. There is a tactful way to discuss things of that nature, but offhandedly generalizing a country in the manner you did is not the way to go about it.
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scar the 1
11/14/19 9:54:53 AM
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Citrik posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Citrik posted...
There are no official channels, nor are we able to leave feedback in disputes. However, your moderation was fair, as generalizing a country as a terrorist organization without any context whatsoever is not something that belongs on the boards.

So if I had been more specific, i.e., listing motivations for why, then would it not have been offensive?

Had the subject been something to the effect of discussing the quote you mentioned in your dispute, it may have been fine. Again that depends on phrasing, intention, context, etc. There is a tactful way to discuss things of that nature, but offhandedly generalizing a country in the manner you did is not the way to go about it.

I don't know if you have access to the actual post, but I did not say that America is a terrorist organization. So I don't really sit well with that description - I didn't actually make a generalization about the country - only about its government.

And for me there's a bit of a gap between "not tactful" and "offensive", especially when we have a lot of committed operations and atrocities that are public knowledge. One could argue that it's not even controversial, which is why I'm so confounded as to what about it is deemed offensive.

BTW, are you a mod alt or are you speculating as to the reason?
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TarElessar
11/14/19 10:04:34 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
I don't know if you have access to the actual post, but I did not say that America is a terrorist organization
You know we can see both your post and dispute message, right?

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scar the 1
11/14/19 10:31:59 AM
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TarElessar posted...
scar the 1 posted...
I don't know if you have access to the actual post, but I did not say that America is a terrorist organization
You know we can see both your post and dispute message, right?

Yes, and I stand by what I said. In my post I'm referring to the US govt, not the country in a general sense.
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Alpha218
11/14/19 10:37:15 AM
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TarElessar posted...
You know we can see both your post and dispute message, right?



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scar the 1
11/14/19 10:38:10 AM
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Alpha218 posted...
TarElessar posted...
You know we can see both your post and dispute message, right?



So what's the issue?
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Citrik
11/14/19 10:42:14 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Citrik posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Citrik posted...
There are no official channels, nor are we able to leave feedback in disputes. However, your moderation was fair, as generalizing a country as a terrorist organization without any context whatsoever is not something that belongs on the boards.

So if I had been more specific, i.e., listing motivations for why, then would it not have been offensive?

Had the subject been something to the effect of discussing the quote you mentioned in your dispute, it may have been fine. Again that depends on phrasing, intention, context, etc. There is a tactful way to discuss things of that nature, but offhandedly generalizing a country in the manner you did is not the way to go about it.

I don't know if you have access to the actual post, but I did not say that America is a terrorist organization. So I don't really sit well with that description - I didn't actually make a generalization about the country - only about its government.

And for me there's a bit of a gap between "not tactful" and "offensive", especially when we have a lot of committed operations and atrocities that are public knowledge. One could argue that it's not even controversial, which is why I'm so confounded as to what about it is deemed offensive.

BTW, are you a mod alt or are you speculating as to the reason?

Yes I have access to your actual post as well as your dispute (which should answer your mod alt question) and you literally said the US. You made no distinction between the country and the government in your initial post or your dispute, not that it matters in the end. With the connotations that terrorism carries in this day and age, applying that generalization to a country without context, whether it be its civilian populace or its government, is not appropriate for the boards.
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scar the 1
11/14/19 10:42:36 AM
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Alright, I see the issue in the dispute message. So if I had been clearer there that I was talking about the govt, would it have made a difference you think?
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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 10:47:01 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism


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scar the 1
11/14/19 10:47:09 AM
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Right, so if I want to avoid such a moderation in the future, I'd have to be very specific then. Thanks for you guys's forthcomingness.
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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 10:48:09 AM
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scar the 1 posted...
Alright, I see the issue in the dispute message. So if I had been clearer there that I was talking about the govt, would it have made a difference you think?


Depends how itchy that mods trigger finger was at the moment. Was he having a bad day? Mom not get his tendies quick enough? Lot of factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

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scar the 1
11/14/19 10:53:17 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
scar the 1 posted...
Alright, I see the issue in the dispute message. So if I had been clearer there that I was talking about the govt, would it have made a difference you think?


Depends how itchy that mods trigger finger was at the moment. Was he having a bad day? Mom not get his tendies quick enough? Lot of factors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism

I think someone said in another topic that appeals are voted upon, so I wouldn't say it's a case of a bad day. And I have no hard feelings about this, I'll just keep it in mind for future posts to be specific about it. What I was responding to, IIRC, was a question about whether a president had committed war crimes. It's easy to be more specific there.
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EzeDoesIt
11/14/19 10:56:03 AM
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Its also easy for most people to recognize nuance and understand intent. Just not the case when it comes to GFAQs mods.

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