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Chicken_Butt 11/14/19 6:16:35 PM #51: |
Darmik posted...
The story looks like it's about the siblings revisiting their childhood trauma. That's not what I mean. Let me try to explain it better. When they shine so much light on it like they're doing, it comes off to me like they're doing it to say "hey look we have a trans character." Maybe that's not the way of it, and I think it's great that we're taking big steps to support LGBTQ in mainstream media. I hope they handle it really well and do a good job highlighting the issues transgender people face relating to their interpersonal relationships and in society. Kitt posted... Eh. At least you made it easy to tag you. Go ahead and throw me on ignore, please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 6:16:50 PM #52: |
The cool part is the massive success of Game Pass has clearly helped a game like this get made. Hopefully we see more stuff like this on Game Pass. The service needs variety.
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Sir Will 11/14/19 6:16:55 PM #53: |
PIITB415 posted...
Well that's one game that will never see a can't from me. Not because I am against trans but because it's completely stupid and pointless. Yeah bullshit. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 11/14/19 6:17:32 PM #54: |
I like the idea of games taking on new and interesting subject matter. I think narrative-based games should be taking more risks like this. But it's not surprising to see all the people coming out of the woodwork to hold it up to intense scrutiny - it's disappointing, but not surprising.
The rallying cry used to be "if you want to inject your politics into games, then make your own!" Gay or transgender people in pre-established franchises? That ruins the experience! How dare you make my favorite thing ever "political"? But now people ARE making their own game stories with gay and transgender characters, and the same crowd are calling them disingenuous hucksters doing it for woke points. You can't win. Just admit that you don't want "SJW shit" in video games. If you have no problem with stuff like this existing despite your personal distaste for it, there's a whole world of video games that suit your preferences. Why take time out of your day to rag on this? --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 6:18:15 PM #55: |
Chicken_Butt posted...
That's not what I mean. Let me try to explain it better. When they shine so much light on it like they're doing, it comes off to me like they're doing it to say "hey look we have a trans character." I don't get that impression from the trailer. Only one line hints it is even a plot point. Chicken_Butt posted... Maybe that's not the way of it, and I think it's great that we're taking big steps to support LGBTQ in mainstream media. I hope they handle it really well and do a good job highlighting the issues transgender people face relating to their interpersonal relationships and in society. That's probably why they got help from GLAAD. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EverDownward 11/14/19 6:19:04 PM #56: |
I don't care for their episodic stuff (this game, Life Is Strange) but I really liked Vampyr.
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Sir Will 11/14/19 6:19:58 PM #58: |
Chicken_Butt posted...
I'm not really sure how you can do this without it feeling forced. I don't have a problem with it, it's just, someone sat down and made a decision to have a transgender main character, and something about that just doesn't feel right. Oh bullshit. Chicken_Butt posted... Maybe that's not the way of it, and I think it's great that we're taking big steps to support LGBTQ in mainstream media. Sure as hell doesn't sound like it. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken_Butt 11/14/19 6:22:14 PM #59: |
Darmik posted...
I don't get that impression from the trailer. Only one line hints it is even a plot point. True, I was going off the text in the OP but I thought that was actually from the video description. My bad, that was my misunderstanding. That's probably why they got help from GLAAD. Yeah, that's actually pretty cool on their part. Sir Will posted... Sure as hell doesn't sound like it. I don't care what it sounds like to you, you don't know me and you don't speak for me. Add me to your ignore list too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DezDroppedFreak 11/14/19 6:25:49 PM #60: |
Looks good. Wish it would come to ps4
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mooreandrew58 11/14/19 6:26:16 PM #61: |
Chicken_Butt posted...
Darmik posted...The story looks like it's about the siblings revisiting their childhood trauma. Hopefully in the future it wont be a issue but today I see it being more necessary because these people want representation and if a company doesnt throw it out there they are giving it these people might not ever notice the game. Marketing, by saying it they are making sure the people most likely interested in this for those reasons are aware of it. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 11/14/19 6:28:23 PM #62: |
Also, I just want to put out there in the event of "it's actually disrespectful to trans people" discourse:
This transgender character, Jason, is one of the game's main characters. You play as him and his sister Alyson. This isn't some token character who pops up to say "I'm transgender!" and either fade into the background or die for cheap drama points. The few comments expressing worry that it's just posturing on DONTNOD's part - I don't think this is gonna be another Le Fou situation, where Disney jerked themselves off for making him gay despite only including two jokey scenes that vaguely implied it. Jason is a main character, and I don't think DONTNOD is gonna skimp on the story to push him to the wayside after squeezing what little "woke points" they can get out of him. We'll just have to wait until the game comes out, but considering DONTNOD's track record, I don't think they're gonna disrespect Jason like people are claiming. --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 6:29:26 PM #63: |
Honestly just the artwork and short premise given here, I'm kind of interested regardless or the trans angle, which is cool. Certainly there's a chance I would play this, unlike any of the Life is Strange sequels.
I'm not too keen on it only being three episodes, though. It'd take to have a lot more content per episode than Life is Strange to not feel short as fuck. I usually play these games after all episodes are released anyway so the wait isnt something I've been personally bothered with. Is this an Xbox/Microsoft exclusive though? Would have to be on PS4 or Switch for me to play it. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 6:30:44 PM #64: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
Is this an Xbox/Microsoft exclusive though? Would have to be on PS4 or Switch for me to play it. Yeah Xbox/PC only. It's an Xbox Game Studio published game. Could always change later on but I wouldn't hold my breath for it. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 6:31:23 PM #65: |
Sad.
Might watch a lets play, then. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 11/14/19 6:44:37 PM #66: |
Chicken_Butt posted...
I'm not really sure how you can do this without it feeling forced. I don't have a problem with it, it's just, someone sat down and made a decision to have a transgender main character, and something about that just doesn't feel right.Whats the alternative here, someone sitting down and accidentally writing a trans man as their main character? --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/14/19 6:44:53 PM #67: |
Darmik posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about Not really. Her final journal entry, even if you kept it platonic apparently (never read it myself) reads like someone in the closet. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sylverlolol 11/14/19 6:47:41 PM #68: |
Calling the twist now:
Regardless, even if the twist is that obvious...its dontnod. I'm on board. Plenty of people CE know how much I shill Life is Strange every time one of the gifting topics for a steam sale rolls around. >.> --- This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken_Butt 11/14/19 6:48:03 PM #69: |
PleaseClap posted...
Whats the alternative here, someone sitting down and accidentally writing a trans man as their main character? Clappy, ol' bean. I have a chicken brain. I already clarified what I was trying to say later on, I just couldn't figure out how to say it, what what. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 6:49:37 PM #70: |
sylverlolol posted...
Calling the twist now: That sounds pretty good, albeit done a thousand times. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 6:50:02 PM #71: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about Doesn't look like it to me. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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super_clout 11/14/19 6:55:43 PM #72: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
Sad. Xbox has exclusives and you say sad? --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dj1200 11/14/19 6:55:51 PM #73: |
sylverlolol posted...
Calling the twist now: So she's crazy too? --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 6:57:38 PM #74: |
super_clout posted...
DeadBankerDream posted...Sad. Consumers being into console wars that does nothing positive for them, only the companies waging them is a weird boomer thing. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/14/19 7:03:21 PM #75: |
Darmik posted...
dave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about So far you're the only one who's said that. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 11/14/19 7:03:28 PM #76: |
After playing Vampyre and it being terrible, I have to question Dontnod's ability to make a good story driven game.
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:06:52 PM #77: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...dave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about I looked up the wiki and I don't see the diary entry you're talking about. You seem to have this issue where you think your decisions in Life is Strange are canon or 'correct' You can play through the game only kissing Warren. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 11/14/19 7:07:36 PM #78: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Darmik posted...darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about Also not made by Dontnod so debatable if "canon" but the prequel Before the Storm Deck9 made has journal entries from Chloe saying that she masturbated while thinking of Pris. Which makes that part where So the evidence stacks up for Chloe being pretty much bi even if you go Platonic in both games. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:08:39 PM #79: |
Chloe is gay
Rachel is bi Max depends on the player --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 11/14/19 7:09:26 PM #80: |
FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy
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super_clout 11/14/19 7:09:37 PM #81: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
super_clout posted...DeadBankerDream posted...Sad. Companies competing is a huge driving factor. The competition makes each company try to put out the best products(games, systems, etc...) and in return we get some awesome games to play. --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/14/19 7:09:56 PM #82: |
Darmik posted...
dave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...dave_is_slick posted...Darmik posted...darkphoenix181 posted...I mean their first big hit life is strange was about Well see, I'm taking the word of my gay sister so... --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 11/14/19 7:11:10 PM #83: |
Darmik posted...
You can play through the game only kissing Warren. Also that doesn't mean she isn't in the closet. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 7:11:19 PM #84: |
super_clout posted...
Companies competing is a huge driving factor. The competition makes each company try to put out the best products(games, systems, etc...) and in return we get some awesome games to play. Okay. I don't own Microsoft consoles, so a game I'm interested in being exclusive to them is sad to me. Get off my dick. --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:12:08 PM #85: |
Antifar posted...
FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy Yeah both Sean and Max can have their sexuality chosen by the player. Like Commander Shepard. I don't remember how it worked with Chloe in Before the Storm. She has a boyfriend but from memory she seemed like she wasn't really attracted to him. But I don't remember if that was chosen by the player. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Maze_ 11/14/19 7:12:17 PM #86: |
Darmik posted...
Chloe is gay Chloe is established to have had boyfriends and not be a virgin. She's bi too. It's just Max who is player determined. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:12:46 PM #87: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Well see, I'm taking the word of my gay sister so... Did she write the game? You could easily prove me wrong by quoting the diary entry you're talking about. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:13:29 PM #88: |
Maze_ posted...
Darmik posted...Chloe is gay Ah right. Just Max and Sean then. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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super_clout 11/14/19 7:13:42 PM #89: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
super_clout posted...Companies competing is a huge driving factor. The competition makes each company try to put out the best products(games, systems, etc...) and in return we get some awesome games to play. I'm not on your dick. Bitch! --- FC 1891 1184 7059. IGN. Clout ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 11/14/19 7:14:18 PM #90: |
Gaming "journalists" have already starting writing their articles blaming gamers for being transphobic for when this eventually flops.
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Ivynn 11/14/19 7:14:43 PM #91: |
Antifar posted...
FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy Hold up, there's a Life is Strange 2? I was only aware of the prequel. Unless that's what people are talking about. I heard nothing about LiS2 so if it is out, that doesn't bode well for it's quality. >_> --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:15:06 PM #92: |
The Admiral posted...
Gaming "journalists" have already starting writing their articles blaming gamers for being transphobic for when this eventually flops. It's a Game Pass game. It's already paid for. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 7:15:06 PM #93: |
The Admiral posted...
Gaming "journalists" have already starting writing their articles blaming gamers for being transphobic for when this eventually flops. Yikes --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 11/14/19 7:15:26 PM #94: |
Ivynn posted...
Antifar posted...FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy Four of its five chapters are out! I like it, but I don't think it's as good as the first game. --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/14/19 7:16:07 PM #95: |
Ivynn posted...
Antifar posted...FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy There's a sequel with new characters. It went completely under the radar. It's better in a few aspects but it's missing that big mystery hook the others had so there's not as much to talk about. It's still worth playing. --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/14/19 7:16:28 PM #96: |
Ivynn posted...
Antifar posted...FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy I think the last episode of LiS2 releases this month or maybe december. There's Life is Strange Life is Strange Before the Storm The Adventures of Captain Underpants (I'm sorry, I forgot the title), which is like a LiS2 prologue thingy Life is Strange 2 --- "Your mother was a broken down tub of junk with more gentlemen callers than the operator." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMallard 11/14/19 7:18:09 PM #97: |
The Admiral posted...
ok boomer --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Rinku_ 11/14/19 7:18:39 PM #98: |
What a surprise that some people are whining about a transgender character.
If it's not "why do they have to make them being trans such a big deal" it's "well what's the point in this character being trans if it doesn't come up?". Some of y'all just want to be upset because transgender people exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 11/14/19 7:19:23 PM #99: |
Antifar posted...
Ivynn posted...Antifar posted...FWIW in Life is Strange 2 the main character can get involved with a guy Darmik posted... There's a sequel with new characters. Whoa, I can't believe I missed this. I liked the first one so I need to check it out. I knew of the prequel game but I never played that since I, er, didn't care for Chloe so a game centered on her didn't appeal to me. I liked Max. Weird how it flew under the radar after the buzz the first one got. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/14/19 7:20:42 PM #100: |
Sounds good. I kinda slept on LiS2, though. Hope this one will do things a little different.
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