Current Events > "Millennials...an enormous problem in the workplace"

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Parappa09 posted...

there's either a weird lack of empathy or youth jealously which causes this weird type of boomer mentality where they feel they're being personally attacked when this is pointed out

well, they are being attacked: they voted for the spending in their youth, they received it, and then they voted to slash their taxes after they no longer needed that spending.

for the most part, net social spending is up, but mostly because of growth of healthcare costs. TANF dramatically reduced welfare payouts--generally in a highly partisan way with red states killing it entirely while blue states mostly maintained it--and EITC is a fraction of the size of the original welfare program.

it's a specific sort of response to valid criticism: when someone lacking in empathy knows they're in the wrong and are absolutely not willing to change or feel bad about what they've done, they will attack their critics for daring to criticize them.

if it sounds like what trump does constantly, you now understand why many republicans like him so much.
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pinky0926 posted...

the safety nets have decreased by $$$$$.

...what safety nets?

Questionmarktarius posted...

...what safety nets?

these

https://www.cbpp.org/research/tanf-weakening-as-a-safety-net-for-poor-families
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Sackgurl posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

...what safety nets?

these

https://www.cbpp.org/research/tanf-weakening-as-a-safety-net-for-poor-families

...thanks, Bill Clinton?

ChrisTaka posted...

You better hope I never meet you on the street cuz if I do see you in person I'm gonna get the authorities on your ass and they'll smug your record like a mechanics face. Good luck trying to find a job after I'm done with you kiddo. You did this to yourself.

It seemed like you were making fun of boomers but everything you typed out fits millennials perfectly.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

ChrisTaka posted...

You better hope I never meet you on the street cuz if I do see you in person I'm gonna get the authorities on your ass and they'll smug your record like a mechanics face. Good luck trying to find a job after I'm done with you kiddo. You did this to yourself.

It seemed like you were making fun of boomers but everything you typed out fits millennials perfectly.

Ah nuts
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lightwarrior78 posted...

pinky0926 posted...

overqualified, undervalued, underpaid

I think you just made HR where I work die in fits of laughter. We have issues with:

Getting people to show up at all
Getting them to meet deadlines for even routine work
Getting them to pitch in when others are sick
Following procedures they were supposedly educated on and certainly were trained in since starting
Stick through the job when it becomes too hard.
Not lose things like office keys.

These are all valid, shit like staying off the internet at work or showing up on time for a salary job is just lol though. Youre at work for 8-10 hours a day so chances are unless your company is cheapskates and has you doing 5 peoples work for 8-10 hours you have plenty of down time and when you add in sleeping being at work is the bulk of your day. Who gives a fuck what time someone shows up at as long as they get their work done. Doesnt matter if you come in at 8am or 8:04am.

That said Idgaf and agree that minimum wage gets minimum effort. Mostly because minimum wage isnt enough to live off and when your pay for the month gets you fuck all except a roof over your head without much leftover for food then yeah, it would be ridiculous to expect someone to give their best effort. Consider this back 40 years ago when a minimum wage job meant you werent rolling in money but you had enough to buy a house, feed a family of 5 and have some leftover.
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lightwarrior78 posted...

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Yeah, the issue with asking for higher wages and fewer hours is that a lot of millenials are legitimately lazy and aren't showing initiative in their work. Calling in all the time, complaining when the work gets a little tough, putting below minimum effort that forces others to pick up after your slack... They want to be rewarded for less effort.

That's where this "millenials are lazy" crap comes from...because a bunch of them are. Not all of them. But even as a millenial myself I get annoyed when every single day I come to work I see at least one or two call-ins and the staff changes every month. The only ones who stay longer than a year are the older folks like middle-aged and up.

There is an issue of some companies legitimately overworking, like consistently giving you jobs that actually require help (try working a full deli by yourself with no-one to cover your lunch and expecting to get everything cleaned and leave on time when closing, like I have plenty of times), but laziness in the workplace from younger folk is definitely a common thing.
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BakonBitz posted...

Yeah, the issue with asking for higher wages and fewer hours is that a lot of millenials are legitimately lazy and aren't showing initiative in their work

Doesn't change the fact that everyone is still underpaid and overworked

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EdgeMaster posted...

Consider this back 40 years ago when a minimum wage job meant you werent rolling in money but you had enough to buy a house, feed a family of 5 and have some leftover.

And no internet, or smart phones, or cable tv, one car for the family, everything was repaired or handed down, and going to McD was a family treat for special occasions because everyone cooked every day.

I agree that minimum wage has stagnated, but this meme that boomers could do all this crap on minimum completely ignores all the new recurring costs we impose on ourselves and then completely take for granted how much we're dumping out every month for convenience /pleasure.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Doesn't change the fact that everyone is still underpaid and overworked

Here's the thing. People are lazy and constantly call in for easy-as-piss jobs like being a cashier or slapping a burger together. Why should those people be paid more if they don't want to actually work?
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I hate to be the bearer of bad news because you seem so confident but holy shit are you wrong.

He got benched for Gabbert, decided to be a baby and sat on the bench during the pre game stuff, and then decided to kneel after just sitting on the bench, and then it became a huge story.

So yah, he got benched, whined, and then changed his reasoning.

Hes out of the league because he wore socks with pigs as cops, he supported Castro, he called nfl owners slave owners, he wore a shirt calling himself a slave.....add in that he is not any good and a team would have to be filled with morons to sign this joke.

Crazy how people make up shit in their head to help their bias.

Actually, he was benched in 2015. He took back the starting under Chip Kelly early in 2016 and started the rest of the season with moderate results despite the shitshow that team was at the time.

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BakonBitz posted...

Here's the thing. People are lazy and constantly call in for easy-as-piss jobs like being a cashier or slapping a burger together. Why should those people be paid more if they don't want to actually work?

Because a side effect of helping everyone is that you help everyone. This is like saying we shouldn't help the poor because some of them seem content with their position. Is punishing some of us more important than helping all of us?

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LittleBonTron2 posted...

Millenials whining is the worst

I graduated into a bottomed-out job market, I earned my right to whinge.

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"But how can I look down on poor people if they make almost as much as I do?"
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hockeybub89 posted...

Doesn't change the fact that everyone is still underpaid and overworked

Automation could help leviate that issue, but people are so fearful if them taking their jobs that most dont seem interested sadly.

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s0nicfan posted...

EdgeMaster posted...

Consider this back 40 years ago when a minimum wage job meant you werent rolling in money but you had enough to buy a house, feed a family of 5 and have some leftover.

And no internet, or smart phones, or cable tv, one car for the family, everything was repaired or handed down, and going to McD was a family treat for special occasions because everyone cooked every day.

I agree that minimum wage has stagnated, but this meme that boomers could do all this crap on minimum completely ignores all the new recurring costs we impose on ourselves and then completely take for granted how much we're dumping out every month for convenience /pleasure.

Appliances, electronics and phone bills cost more back then.
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s0nicfan posted...

And no internet, or smart phones, or cable tv, one car for the family, everything was repaired or handed down, and going to McD was a family treat for special occasions because everyone cooked every day.

I agree that minimum wage has stagnated, but this meme that boomers could do all this crap on minimum completely ignores all the new recurring costs we impose on ourselves and then completely take for granted how much we're dumping out every month for convenience /pleasure.

lol

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Prismsblade posted...

Automation could help leviate that issue, but people are so fearful if them taking their jobs that most dont seem interested sadly.

Because they will. The profiteers at the top will gladly cut labor to save money if they can do it with machines. Instead of technology bringing people out of miserable working conditions it will leave them destitute so that some rich pricks bank balance can go up.

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