Current Events > Jim Cornette fired from NWA for racism

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SwordMaster13X
11/21/19 7:17:44 PM
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I really think the NWA screwed up by not editing that out when they had the chance. This episode was taped like six weeks ago. I mean if they really wanted Cornette around, they would have edited that out and told him to be more careful. Its possible that Cornette probably fought with management over his views of wrestling or his political beliefs as Cornette hates Trump and is more in favor of Democrats. The thing about Cornette is that he always gets himself fired. So its possible billy corgan or Dave Lagana just didnt want Cornette around anymore and just let this slide to give them an excuse to force Cornette design. I bet that is what Cornette will say on his podcast tomorrow on what went down.
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I4NRulez
11/21/19 7:19:25 PM
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Even if you dont think this line is particularly racist enough people did.

And with the other shit Cornette brings like suicide jokes. It was only a matter of time.

But also FUCK Cornette
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Southernfatman
11/21/19 7:20:33 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
I know he hated ECW and criticized The Wrestler movie.

I recall he said it wasn't a bad movie but didn't like how it showed how some wrestlers become washed up bums.

Hated ECW because guys were intentionally beating each other to death.


Yeah. The Wrestler embarrassed him and made it all out like there were no happy endings in wrestling.

He hated ECW because of how far it could get at times. He thought having hardcore stuff all the time didn't make it special anymore. And if going through a table gets old, then they have to go through 2, then 3, then tables set on fire or with barbed wire, then dives from the balcony. It goes too far and you can't pull back. It's kind of the same thing today with modern wrestling. There's too many flips and dives and craziness that the wrestlers have to go to such extremes to follow what came before to get a reaction.
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AirFresh
11/21/19 7:21:33 PM
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
Probably because things have changed just a little bit over the period of thirty years
So why can't a heel be a heel? You are supposed to think he is a jackass. He did his job

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EverDownward
11/21/19 7:22:32 PM
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Well, I guess I'm not watching NWA anymore
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Southernfatman
11/21/19 7:23:40 PM
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AirFresh posted...
AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
Probably because things have changed just a little bit over the period of thirty years
So why can't a heel be a heel? You are supposed to think he is a jackass. He did his job


To be fair, Jim wasn't being a heel commentator, but you're right. If a dumb, but innocuous joke can get people fired then how can any wrestler get any heat anymore?
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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/21/19 7:24:49 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
To be fair, Jim wasn't being a heel commentator, but you're right. If a dumb, but innocuous joke can get people fired then how can any wrestler get any heat anymore?
Probably because it wasn't innocuous and that shit doesn't fly

There's a reason they don't call Kane the Big Red R-word anymore

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CountDog
11/21/19 7:27:40 PM
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That guy is definitely not racist. I've heard hours of his rants. I'm sure somebody wanted him out. He is a pretty wild dood, not as composed as most people can be.
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jborgan
11/21/19 7:28:59 PM
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Everybody in the wrestling business knows what kind of person Cornette is. They had months to edit out what he said, but didn't.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/21/19 7:29:28 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Yeah. The Wrestler embarrassed him and made it all out like there were no happy endings in wrestling.

He hated ECW because of how far it could get at times. He thought having hardcore stuff all the time didn't make it special anymore. And if going through a table gets old, then they have to go through 2, then 3, then tables set on fire or with barbed wire, then dives from the balcony. It goes too far and you can't pull back. It's kind of the same thing today with modern wrestling. There's too many flips and dives and craziness that the wrestlers have to go to such extremes to follow what came before to get a reaction.


Yea I remember when I first saw the Nasty Boys suplex some guy over the top rope onto a table that was outside of the ring.

Now it's like *yawn*.

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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/21/19 7:30:30 PM
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I should better elaborate that it's not that I'm against the idea of heels being cutting edge but this particular example was just really stupid and pretty outright racist. But some people on the PWB are claiming it's a reference to a TV show from 1987

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EverDownward
11/21/19 7:36:32 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
EnterTheTekken posted...
It is a fascinating dichotomy between what Cornette said and the consequences that followed, versus what Vince McMahon said back in 2005 on national television.


Or what Randy Orton said a few weeks ago, but it's not really about racism and what's right and wrong, it's about punishing someone for wrongthink. People have been trying to get him fired for his opinions on a lot of modern wrestling and they just can't handle it. They tried months ago trying to make him out to be a sexist, but it didn't stick. They tried to make up some bullshit about him joking about suicide a few weeks ago, but it didn't stick. Now they got this and it worked.

mustachedmystic posted...
Isn't he popular though? I've never been a big wrestling fan, but I always enjoyed whenever I saw him.

Jim's definitely popular, but he's of a mindset that doesn't necessarily exist in pro wrestling anymore. Especially with the fans, the fans (and especially the smart marks) haaate Jim because he represents an era that modern smart marks loath. He doesn't care for the indie darlings, so they go after him. And like southern said, they finally got him on something and can now gloat about it on twitter and wherever else.

I personally fucking love Jim, it's just sad that he's such a target in this day and age.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/21/19 7:54:16 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2jOzK9D54

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SwordMaster13X
11/21/19 8:00:56 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
AirFresh posted...
AwesomeToTheMAX posted...
Probably because things have changed just a little bit over the period of thirty years
So why can't a heel be a heel? You are supposed to think he is a jackass. He did his job


To be fair, Jim wasn't being a heel commentator, but you're right. If a dumb, but innocuous joke can get people fired then how can any wrestler get any heat anymore?


I think the problem with Jim is that he has a history of saying dumb jokes and doing dumb shit. Since the NWA is trying to get a TV deal, they probably didnt want to deal with his baggage any more. The man has knowledge but he always shoots himself in the foot.
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ultimate reaver
11/21/19 8:01:42 PM
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i dont really see how cornette can be pitied as a target when his gimmick is starting as many fights with as many people as possible for podcast views. sure, it's all bullshit, he will do massive about-faces on basically anyone if he actually starts working with them (half the companies he's worked with for the past 20 years are so are people who he's shit on endlessly prior to joining them), but still

when you start accruing heel heat in real life, people are eventually going to start cheering when the faces knock you down a peg for making fucking black people fried chicken jokes in 2019. he should stick to telling fun old wrestling stories and stay away from whatever that was

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FaultyGourry
11/21/19 8:03:38 PM
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Good. I have no sympathy for that shithead. Still wish Santino Marella beat his rolly polly ass.
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EverDownward
11/21/19 8:13:44 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
when you start accruing heel heat in real life, people are eventually going to start cheering when the faces knock you down a peg for making fucking black people fried chicken jokes in 2019. he should stick to telling fun old wrestling stories and stay away from whatever that was

I just think the reaction is a little overblown, but you're right in that Jim has a whole history on getting heat both in wrestling and in real life. He still keeps the death threats from fans he received decades ago, just to name an example.

I'm not going to completely defend Jim, because it was definitely a loaded comment. He should have said something else, but NWA definitely had months to edit out the comment and didn't.
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RchHomieQuanChi
11/21/19 8:20:15 PM
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"Hes the only man Ive ever known that can strap a bucket of fried chicken on his back and ride a motor scooter across Ethiopia."

What the fuck
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DisneyFan462
11/21/19 8:22:01 PM
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Purely posted...
DisneyFan462 posted...
What was said?


I bolded it in the original post...


Ah I see it now.
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DirkDiggles
11/22/19 1:17:55 AM
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KillerSlaw posted...
https://youtu.be/WngpAHJNDhQ?t=40


lol Jericho was funny in that. "Does this look like a comedy bus to you?"
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Zack_Attackv1
11/22/19 1:19:57 AM
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I'm not the least bit surprised. What does surprise me, however, is why they would willingly employ that senile old bastard to begin with.
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ultimate reaver
11/22/19 1:37:41 AM
#72:


Zack_Attackv1 posted...
I'm not the least bit surprised. What does surprise me, however, is why they would willingly employ that senile old bastard to begin with.


As much as he complains about indie wrestling and TNA, those are the two things he's been doing for a very long time at this point. He's a perfect fit for corgan NWA, which is like a vacuum cleaner that sucked up what was left of mid-2010s TNA that WWE and AEW didn't get (plus worlds angriest grandpa tim storm).

He's not going to go to WWE, probably because he knows he'd get booted really quick with his gimmick. And it's outside of his interests to go to AEW because pretending to be really upset at kenny and the young bucks gets him publicity. NWA was like the perfect fit for him, but with even that not working out I'm not sure he's ever going to really be doing anything except podcasts from here on out.


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thronedfire2
11/22/19 1:45:57 AM
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I thought this was about the other NWA and I was pretty confused

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EverDownward
11/22/19 1:49:38 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
NWA was like the perfect fit for him, but with even that not working out I'm not sure he's ever going to really be doing anything except podcasts from here on out.

With some ingenuity and elbow grease, he could turn that vault of pro wrestling memorabilia he has into a museum of sorts. Charge for admission, etc. I'm not sure if the money needed to fund such a project is worth it, however.
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