Current Events > When the villain is Obama, not Trump, news suddenly becomes not worth reporting

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DundiesAward 11/21/19 11:38:15 AM #1:	https://nypost.com/2019/11/20/when-the-villain-is-obama-not-trump-news-suddenly-becomes-not-worth-reporting/ So the United States has the worlds highest rate of children in detention. Is this worth reporting? Maybe, maybe not. Nevertheless, Agence France-Presse, or AFP, and Reuters did report it, attributing the information to a United Nations study on migrant children detained at the US-Mexico border. Then the two agencies retracted the story. Deleted, withdrew, demolished. If they could have used one of those Men in Black memory-zappers on us, they would have. Sheepishly, the two news organizations explained that, you see, the UN data was from 2015 part of a border crackdown that had begun years earlier. We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasnt evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama. Zap. The story made Obama look bad. Hence the story was removed. Not updated or corrected, removed. I know its a heavy news environment. Who can keep up? But try to remember this one, because its instructive. People think news organizations flat-out fabricate stories. That isnt often the case. Fake news is a problem that pops up here and there, but the much more systematic and deeply entrenched attack on truth is the casual, everyday bias of reporters. AFP and Reuters deleted a story that was, in a narrow sense, true that a UN study claimed the United States had some 100,000 children in migrant-related detention. The United Nations is horribly biased against America and the West. Still, on the level of lazy, news-release-driven journalism, the locked-up-kids story was minimally valid. At any rate, what the agencies didnt seem to like was the storys changed implication: That Obama, rather than Trump, locked up a lot of children. This is whats important: Not that AFP and Reuters deleted a story, but that the implication of the story meant everything to them. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:930476069] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>https://nypost.com/2019/11/20/when-the-villain-is-obama-not-trump-news-suddenly-becomes-not-worth-reporting/ So the United States has the worlds highest rate of children in detention. Is this worth reporting? Maybe, maybe not. Nevertheless, Agence France-Presse, or AFP, and Reuters did report it, attributing the information to a United Nations study on migrant children detained at the US-Mexico border. Then the two agencies retracted the story. Deleted, withdrew, demolished. If they could have used one of those Men in Black memory-zappers on us, they would have. Sheepishly, the two news organizations explained that, you see, the UN data was from 2015 part of a border crackdown that had begun years earlier. We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasnt evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama. Zap. The story made Obama look bad. Hence the story was removed. Not updated or corrected, removed. I know its a heavy news environment. Who can keep up? But try to remember this one, because its instructive. People think news organizations flat-out fabricate stories. That isnt often the case. Fake news is a problem that pops up here and there, but the much more systematic and deeply entrenched attack on truth is the casual, everyday bias of reporters. AFP and Reuters deleted a story that was, in a narrow sense, true that a UN study claimed the United States had some 100,000 children in migrant-related detention. The United Nations is horribly biased against America and the West. Still, on the level of lazy, news-release-driven journalism, the locked-up-kids story was minimally valid. At any rate, what the agencies didnt seem to like was the storys changed implication: That Obama, rather than Trump, locked up a lot of children. This is whats important: Not that AFP and Reuters deleted a story, but that the implication of the story meant everything to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 11/21/19 11:42:13 AM #2:	tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:930476257] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/21/19 11:54:44 AM #4:	gunplagirl posted... tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? DundiesAward posted... Sheepishly, the two news organizations explained that, you see, the UN data was from 2015 part of a border crackdown that had begun years earlier. We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasnt evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama. <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:930476815] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article?</quote> DundiesAward posted... </cite> <quote>Sheepishly, the two news organizations explained that, you see, the UN data was from 2015 part of a border crackdown that had begun years earlier. We all know who the president was in 2015. It wasnt evil, child-caging monster President Trump. It was that nice, compassionate, child-caging monster President Barack Obama.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 11/21/19 11:55:05 AM #5:	"BUT OBAMA!!" The Topic --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:930476826] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>"BUT OBAMA!!" The Topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/21/19 11:58:51 AM #6:	I mean, it's an important point to make that Obama sucked on immigration. Part of the reason he didn't get "credit" for it at the time is because Republicans wouldn't give him credit for it, because they view it as politically advantageous to paint every Democrat as an open-borders fringe hippie who loves immigrants more than "real" Americans. As for Obama's logic, it has long been orthodox in professional Democratic circles that brutal enforcement of existing law is crucial for convincing Republicans you're serious so they'll agree to do immigration reform. And, of course, Obama shows no signs of caring about the immense human cost of such policies(unless some one else is doing them). <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:930477051] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it's an important point to make that Obama sucked on immigration. Part of the reason he didn't get "credit" for it at the time is because Republicans wouldn't give him credit for it, because they view it as politically advantageous to paint every Democrat as an open-borders fringe hippie who loves immigrants more than "real" Americans. As for Obama's logic, it has long been orthodox in professional Democratic circles that brutal enforcement of existing law is crucial for convincing Republicans you're serious so they'll agree to do immigration reform. And, of course, Obama shows no signs of caring about the immense human cost of such policies(unless some one else is doing them).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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coolboy11 11/21/19 12:21:59 PM #8:	I think people are still uncomfortable with the fact that a large chunk of Americans are just xenophobes for the most part and the Democratic party has had to jump into the shark tank to keep enough of the majority demo to stay relevant. --- "A superhero in the flesh, even at my worst I'm the best"-Big KRIT <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:930478092] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>I think people are still uncomfortable with the fact that a large chunk of Americans are just xenophobes for the most part and the Democratic party has had to jump into the shark tank to keep enough of the majority demo to stay relevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 11/21/19 12:25:39 PM #10:	Tag --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:930478285] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Tag</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BIueMonk 11/21/19 12:26:43 PM #11:	look, someone else to ignore. bye TC --- DAHYUN = <3 https://imgur.com/bv71aAd <cite>_BIueMonk posted [p:930478338] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>look, someone else to ignore. bye TC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/21/19 12:27:29 PM #12:	DundiesAward posted... So the United States has the worlds highest rate of children in detention. Is this worth reporting? Maybe, maybe not. Yes, unequivocally --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:930478378] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>DundiesAward posted...</cite> <quote>So the United States has the worlds highest rate of children in detention. Is this worth reporting? Maybe, maybe not.</quote> Yes, unequivocally</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 11/21/19 12:29:20 PM #13:	_BIueMonk posted... look, someone else to ignore. bye TC Do whatever you want. I'm just posting an article. I didnt say it was my view. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:930478483] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>_BIueMonk posted...</cite> <quote>look, someone else to ignore. bye TC</quote> Do whatever you want. I'm just posting an article. I didnt say it was my view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Machete 11/21/19 12:33:35 PM #15:	gunplagirl posted... tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? --- #DerangedDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:930478685] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/21/19 12:36:14 PM #16:	So, if Obama doing it is so bad, why aren't Republicans doing the right thing and stopping such atrocities instead of doubling down on them? And it seems in general, the Obama worship is dying down a bit and more people are seeing him for what he really was/is. There's always going to be the sheep though and most of it is just because of the letter that was next to his name. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:930478820] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>So, if Obama doing it is so bad, why aren't Republicans doing the right thing and stopping such atrocities instead of doubling down on them? And it seems in general, the Obama worship is dying down a bit and more people are seeing him for what he really was/is. There's always going to be the sheep though and most of it is just because of the letter that was next to his name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 11/21/19 12:42:34 PM #18:	Child-caging on both sides. So either Trump is at least as bad as Obama or Obama is at least as good as Trump. Which one do conservatives want to hear? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:930479141] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Child-caging on both sides. So either Trump is at least as bad as Obama or Obama is at least as good as Trump. Which one do conservatives want to hear? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 11/21/19 1:34:02 PM #19:	Southernfatman posted... So, if Obama doing it is so bad, why aren't Republicans doing the right thing and stopping such atrocities instead of doubling down on them? If Trump's policies are so bad, why did the Democrats never act horrified over the same things happening under Obama. Or why do they not want to talk about it today? They have no problem talking about historical injustices from decades or even 100+ years, so why not ones from 5 years ago? Also, whenever we have the next Democrat president and the situation is basically the same as it is now, why do you suppose it is that the left will go back to not talking about it? --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:930481552] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>So, if Obama doing it is so bad, why aren't Republicans doing the right thing and stopping such atrocities instead of doubling down on them?</quote> If Trump's policies are so bad, why did the Democrats never act horrified over the same things happening under Obama. Or why do they not want to talk about it today? They have no problem talking about historical injustices from decades or even 100+ years, so why not ones from 5 years ago? Also, whenever we have the next Democrat president and the situation is basically the same as it is now, why do you suppose it is that the left will go back to not talking about it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VitalGetPrank 11/21/19 1:40:00 PM #21:	Whataboutism is probably the most pathetic retort Trump supporters could come up with. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olv1mclUwmg <cite>VitalGetPrank posted [p:930481837] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Whataboutism is probably the most pathetic retort Trump supporters could come up with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MC_BatCommander 11/21/19 1:41:48 PM #22:	It's pretty well established that the media went too easy on Obama, this ain't exactly a hot take --- The Legend is True! <cite>MC_BatCommander posted [p:930481910] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>It's pretty well established that the media went too easy on Obama, this ain't exactly a hot take </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 11/21/19 1:46:31 PM #23:	MC_BatCommander posted... It's pretty well established that the media went too easy on Obama, this ain't exactly a hot take The left leaning media won't even criticize him now. They still praise him and refuse to examine his mistakes. At least Fox News actually challenges Trump on things. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:930482087] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>MC_BatCommander posted...</cite> <quote>It's pretty well established that the media went too easy on Obama, this ain't exactly a hot take </quote> The left leaning media won't even criticize him now. They still praise him and refuse to examine his mistakes. At least Fox News actually challenges Trump on things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 11/21/19 1:56:38 PM #24:	It should have been reported on when Obama was president, focused on more and it should have stopped and never restarted. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:930482485] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>It should have been reported on when Obama was president, focused on more and it should have stopped and never restarted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bossdog421 11/21/19 2:01:22 PM #25:	VitalGetPrank posted... Whataboutism is probably the most pathetic retort Trump supporters could come up with. The first detention center articles that were targeting Trump had pictures in them from detention centers that were taken during Obama's term. This article is talking about how news outlets were posting these numbers then, in some cases, completed deleted the stories without even correcting them. This isn't whataboutism. It's targeted fabricated outrage that they don't even bother checking before they point the finger (or they don't even care because the sheep eat it up anyways). Tune in tomorrow to figure out what you should be outraged about next! It doesn't even matter if it's right! --- I don't have emotions & sometimes that makes me very sad. <cite>Bossdog421 posted [p:930482688] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>VitalGetPrank posted...</cite> <quote>Whataboutism is probably the most pathetic retort Trump supporters could come up with.</quote> The first detention center articles that were targeting Trump had pictures in them from detention centers that were taken during Obama's term. This article is talking about how news outlets were posting these numbers then, in some cases, completed deleted the stories without even correcting them. This isn't whataboutism. It's targeted fabricated outrage that they don't even bother checking before they point the finger (or they don't even care because the sheep eat it up anyways). Tune in tomorrow to figure out what you should be outraged about next! It doesn't even matter if it's right!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 11/21/19 2:10:05 PM #26:	Establishment liberals aren't really offended by the children in cages or the record number of deportations. Its just convenient for them. That doesn't make putting children in cages or deporting people justifiable, no matter how much conservatives wish it to be so. --- Fair enough, but I think everything you said is wrong and I hate you and you're crazy. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:930483044] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Establishment liberals aren't really offended by the children in cages or the record number of deportations. Its just convenient for them. That doesn't make putting children in cages or deporting people justifiable, no matter how much conservatives wish it to be so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 11/21/19 2:14:14 PM #27:	Bossdog421 posted... This isn't whataboutism. Yes it is --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:930483201] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>Bossdog421 posted...</cite> <quote> This isn't whataboutism.</quote> Yes it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deadpool_18 11/21/19 2:23:22 PM #28:	gunplagirl posted... tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? Thats the gist of it. --- You go, Glenn CoCo. <cite>Deadpool_18 posted [p:930483595] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>tl;dr But I'm guessing it's just "but Obama" for the millionth article? </quote> Thats the gist of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bossdog421 11/21/19 2:28:57 PM #29:	UnfairRepresent posted... Bossdog421 posted... This isn't whataboutism. Yes it is Reverse whataboutism then. Instead of justifying the present by blaming the past we are now blaming the past on the present. --- I don't have emotions & sometimes that makes me very sad. <cite>Bossdog421 posted [p:930483833] in When the v... [t:78183554]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Bossdog421 posted...</cite> <quote> This isn't whataboutism.</quote> Yes it is</quote> Reverse whataboutism then. Instead of justifying the present by blaming the past we are now blaming the past on the present.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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