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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 3:27:28 PM #1: |
One of the best things MTG has done right is when they started to use the word, "Their," since it make sense. It went from something like, "Target player sacrifices a creature he/she controls," to, "Target player sacrifices a creature they control."
This kind of shit happens over and over and over again. I'm the only guy that works in the kitchen, people come in and say, "hello ladies," and it's the same the other way. I'm watching Naruto Shippuden right now and I guess all the ninja are male because they only address ninja as males. "When a Ninja from the Leaf Village lays down his life. . .," and not, "When a Ninja from the Leaf Village lays down their life. . .." It happens all the fucking time in every genre I'm exposed to --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk 11/24/19 3:28:58 PM #2: |
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vigorm0rtis 11/24/19 3:29:00 PM #3: |
There's a... construct in a story I wrote that's referred to as male by other characters.
Fight me. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 3:30:31 PM #4: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
There's a... construct in a story I wrote that's referred to as male by other characters. So that person isn't a fake. Well, it's a story so it IS fake, but you know what I mean. That character had a gender, you're talking about someone. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 11/24/19 3:34:20 PM #5: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
So that person isn't a fake. Well, it's a story so it IS fake, but you know what I mean. That character had a gender, you're talking about someone. No, it's just a construct. It may or may not actually be sentient, but you're not given a strong indicator either way. Although the main reason other characters refer to it as male is because it looks like one (with clothes on, at least, I didn't explore beyond that). I get what you're saying, but I'm of the opinion we just let creators do what they want to do and let people who care too much about this shit flame out on Twitter. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 11/24/19 3:34:48 PM #6: |
I can't tell if this is baiting people into calling out your past or you really do get annoyed by people lazily grouping people up.
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LukeFalk 11/24/19 3:38:48 PM #7: |
Can't give the Boogeyman a gender?
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 3:39:27 PM #8: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
Although the main reason other characters refer to it as male is because it looks like one A player playing Magic: The Gathering doesn't look like anyone. Every ninja in Naruto doesn't look like anyone. This started to bug me because I had to so a bunch of online crap for me [I work at a school, so this is for abuse, sexual harassment, racism, ect} and this is how it would go - "If a student comes up to you with a problem, you need to listen and report him or her to the person in charge depending on who he or she is." Those people are no one, just made up and hypothetical. Just use "They" and "Them" "If a student comes up to you with a problem, you need to listen and report them to the person in charge depending on who they are." --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sevihaimerej 11/24/19 3:51:48 PM #10: |
I have long, luxurious flowing hair and am often mistaken for a beautiful woman from behind, the shocked expression that overtakes them when they see I have a Charles Manson face upon turning around is fucking amazing. Anyway, These things that bother you are dumb and lazy but being bothered by them is also kinda dumb...
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Master_Bass 11/24/19 3:53:36 PM #11: |
Crono99 posted...
I agree that constantly using "him or her" is kind of distracting and can appear a bit forced. Sometimes people just randomly use masculine or feminine, like they use him a few times then her a few times. I don't know. Meh. Yeah, in college we were taught her in one instance and then switching to him next instance is fine or saying he or she. I always found the latter cumbersome, but it's alright. I had a professor that hated singular they, but that was just the one guy and he wasn't even an English teacher. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 11/24/19 3:54:10 PM #12: |
A story I'm working on has a robot dinosaur in it. His pilot asks if him it's okay to assign him a male gender and the robot dinosaur complies with the request.
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 4:14:34 PM #14: |
sevihaimerej posted...
I have long, luxurious flowing hair and am often mistaken for a beautiful woman from behind, the shocked expression that overtakes them when they see I have a Charles Manson face upon turning around is fucking amazing. Anyway, These things that bother you are dumb and lazy but being bothered by them is also kinda dumb... God damn it, that isn't what I'm talking about! Most of these posts have zero relation to what I'm talking about. So frustrating --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 11/24/19 4:18:04 PM #16: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Target player sacrifices a creature he/she controls omg i hate when people write like this it's so fucking clunky and ugly --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Doener macht schoener ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 4:19:56 PM #17: |
"Honey, where did the kids go?"
"He and she went to the store." Sounds fucking stupid, right? "If a student doesn't have money in his or her account then he or she can get a free meal portion that your school provides. If he or she is allergic to that food, then you you can provide him or her the main food" That is equally as stupid. It should be saying - "If a student doens't have money in their account then they can get a free meal portion that your school provides. If they are allergic to that food, then you can provide them the main food." But that's what got my started with this whole being frustrated over it. I had to hear this sort of shit read like that 100 times. He or she that, his or her that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 4:21:00 PM #18: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
mtg rules text using "they" instead of "he/she" doesn't really seem like anything to get this upset over, or at all really Bad_Mojo posted... One of the best things MTG has done right is when they started to use the word, "Their," I'm happy with MTG, not upset over it Bad_Mojo posted... Most of these posts have zero relation to what I'm talking about. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 11/24/19 4:23:09 PM #19: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
"If a student doesn't have money in his or her account then he or she can get a free meal portion that your school provides. If he or she is allergic to that food, then you you can provide him or her the main food" argh who the shit writes like this --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Doener macht schoener ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 4:24:51 PM #20: |
Choco posted...
argh who the shit writes like this Bad_Mojo posted... This started to bug me because I had to so a bunch of online crap for me [I work at a school, so this is for abuse, sexual harassment, racism, ect} and this is how it would go - Fucking hours of this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ASithLord7 11/24/19 4:39:28 PM #21: |
Singular they is fantastic and should be the edited standard.
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 4:55:30 PM #23: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
oh my mistake, i read it wrong No, I'm sorry. I'm just annoyed because a lot of people seemed to have missed the point of my topic, lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/24/19 5:03:22 PM #24: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
There's a... construct in a story I wrote that's referred to as male by other characters.A specific fictional person isn't a hypothetical person so do whatever you want with your story. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/24/19 5:04:34 PM #25: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Fucking hours of this I just want to say that if having an exchange between two hypothetical people sometimes it makes sense to just arbitrarily say one is he and one is she. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 5:13:45 PM #26: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
I just want to say that if having an exchange between two hypothetical people sometimes it makes sense to just arbitrarily say one is he and one is she. No, it doesn't, "make sense." It's just what you're used to saying. It's your personal prejudice coming through. And that is fine, everyone single person has this. It's not a bad thing Edit - What are we talking about? Let's say you want to talk about how to hit on a girl. Then you've already created two characters, which need genders. If you're talking about all the brave soldiers that have been killed to save our country, then they should be brave soldiers and not brave men It's only an annoying thing to me because I'm not some 'woke' person that just started to complain about this. I have always been very hyper awake of things like that. In the rules of games, they almost always said his or her and not just player or something. I've always been aware of it. Most people don't even think about it, but it is psychological sexism/bias for all genders, and even as a kid growing up in the 80s and early 90s I never had that. I always found it strange when people would do it --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/24/19 5:23:28 PM #27: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
No, it doesn't, "make sense." It's just what you're used to saying. It's your personal prejudice coming through. And that is fine, everyone single person has this. It's not a bad thing Edit - What are we talking about? Let's say you want to talk about how to hit on a girl. Then you've already created two characters, which need genders. If you're talking about all the brave soldiers that have been killed to save our country, then they should be brave soldiers and not brave menNah, it's especially important for games. RPGs more so than magic but it still stands. "She says he encounters goblins. Then she asks him if she would like to try and sneak past them. He looks at his sheet and decides he'd rather try to fight. She asks him to roll for initiative and then she rolls initiative for the goblins herself." Vs. "They say they encounter goblins. Then they ask them if they would like to try and sneak past them. They look at their sheet and decide they'd rather try to fight. They ask them to roll for initiative and then they roll initiative for the goblins themselves." The first one has a flow with clearly defined pronouns and the second one is an incomprehensible mess. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 5:29:53 PM #28: |
^ Again, you are talking about characters. I am not. I am talking about nobody. I am talking about a classroom, I am talking about those goblins, I am talking about these ants.
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PleaseClap 11/24/19 5:33:04 PM #29: |
I don't understand how some of you guys are having such a hard time getting what the TC is saying here.
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 5:34:00 PM #30: |
PleaseClap posted...
I don't understand how some of you guys are having such a hard time getting what the TC is saying here. I'll clap, tbh But why do you assume they're all guys? >_< --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Choco 11/24/19 6:47:26 PM #31: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
PleaseClap posted...I don't understand how some of you guys are having such a hard time getting what the TC is saying here. lmao --- http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html Doener macht schoener ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 11/24/19 6:48:54 PM #32: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
PleaseClap posted...I don't understand how some of you guys are having such a hard time getting what the TC is saying here. Everyone knows that there's no women on the internet, don't be absurd. --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarDog2016 11/24/19 6:56:21 PM #33: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
Honey, where did the kids go?" Ugh bad example, and that should tell you something. The alternative wouldn't be singular their, bub... --- Never go full Matt Lauer. Mmmmmkay, thanks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 6:59:31 PM #34: |
Fucking wrecked
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Malfunction 11/24/19 7:00:37 PM #35: |
i love how right wingers have started to pretend that singular they is some wild, out there concept the past few years
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TheMikh 11/24/19 7:05:37 PM #36: |
every language has its hurdles; the english language has difficulty with gender neutrality
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 7:29:41 PM #37: |
TheMikh posted...
they/their/them is grammatically incorrect And how is that? They went to the store They better have had eaten their dinner tonight or they're not watching TV If a student comes up to with a problem, please instruct them go to to the office. What is incorrect about those? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 11/24/19 7:35:14 PM #38: |
Bad_Mojo posted...
TheMikh posted...they/their/them is grammatically incorrect They/them/their refers to multiple individuals. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 11/24/19 7:38:55 PM #39: |
TheMikh posted...
they/their/them is grammatically incorrect; TheMikh posted... They/them/their refers to multiple individuals. That is simply not true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 7:39:47 PM #40: |
TheMikh posted...
They/them/their refers to multiple individuals. But do you understand what I'm saying here? When you're not talking about anyone. Just hypothetical --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PleaseClap 11/24/19 7:40:09 PM #41: |
TheMikh posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...TheMikh posted...they/their/them is grammatically incorrect You should tell the oxford english dictionary that https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/ --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 11/24/19 7:40:35 PM #42: |
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WarDog2016 11/25/19 2:38:45 AM #43: |
Malfunction posted...
i love how right wingers have started to pretend that singular they is some wild, out there concept the past few years if you grew up without being warned incessantly about how it should be avoided, then you simply have a different education than me, and your privilege should be checked. --- Never go full Matt Lauer. Mmmmmkay, thanks. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Middle hope 11/25/19 2:44:34 AM #44: |
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evil_zombie11 11/25/19 2:50:04 AM #45: |
Middle hope posted...
https://youtu.be/moWe3rk7LzQ I imagine CE to be this way --- Yo wtf Probably lifting or running... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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