Current Events > Is it harder to be a woman than a man? in your opinion.

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Nope. There's pros and cons to each and I say it's about equal. Now if we're comparing strictly beautiful men and women then I'd say the women have it easier.

Edit: And I'm also talking USA, I'm not sure how the situation is in other countries.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Look up Charlize Theron.

I don't think using a famous woman is a very good example.

She has access to the best creams, the best facials, the best diet, the best plastic surgeons, and doesn't have the same workload as the average woman (she probably has nannies, cooks, etc.).

Of course she is going to look good.

GoodOlJr posted...

I can fence sit and say it depends on where you are, or who you are

But lets be real, male suicide rate is higher

Aaaand here comes the no context statistics. For all you know, men could be killing themselves cause they have a higher rate of selfishness that allows them to disconnect from their responsibilities and pull the trigger. Suicide isn't just something you throw up a statistic for and say "screw any deeper thought into it".

Anyway, this whole topic is silly. No one will ever have complete perspective of both sides. Even if you transition, you're not gonna end up with the full experience of both genders. And even if you did, you'd still have an anecdotal experience. Sometimes you just need to accept that you don't get an answer, there is no winners and losers. More so whiners and losers.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

GoodOlJr posted...

I can fence sit and say it depends on where you are, or who you are

But lets be real, male suicide rate is higher

Aaaand here comes the no context statistics. For all you know, men could be killing themselves cause they have a higher rate of selfishness that allows them to disconnect from their responsibilities and pull the trigger. Suicide isn't just something you throw up a statistic for and say "screw any deeper thought into it".

Anyway, this whole topic is silly. No one will ever have complete perspective of both sides. Even if you transition, you're not gonna end up with the full experience of both genders. And even if you did, you'd still have an anecdotal experience. Sometimes you just need to accept that you don't get an answer, there is no winners and losers. More so whiners and losers.

Sure. That's why you have to understand the question in context. What's "easier" mean, does it mean that being a woman is so much "better" than being man that everyone would much rather prefer to be one? No, of course not.

solosnake posted...

Maybe 100 years ago, but not today, at least not in usa

pretty much this. like yea i'm sure in 3rd world countries it's better to be a man. then not really sure about a lot of other countries but in USA women get a lot of advantages.

closetjpopfan posted...

Sure. That's why you have to understand the question in context. What's "easier" mean, does it mean that being a woman is so much "better" than being man that everyone would much rather prefer to be one? No, of course not.

Did you even say anything here? It doesn't matter if you're talking better or easier. Easier in this regard, would be better. If you think you have enough perspective to answer that then you're just showing you're unaware of your own ignorance. A mutual ignorance. But when you're ignorant to your ignorance, you stacking debuffs lol

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Aaaand here comes the no context statistics. For all you know, men could be killing themselves cause they have a higher rate of selfishness that allows them to disconnect from their responsibilities and pull the trigger. Suicide isn't just something you throw up a statistic for and say "screw any deeper thought into it".

Anyway, this whole topic is silly. No one will ever have complete perspective of both sides. Even if you transition, you're not gonna end up with the full experience of both genders. And even if you did, you'd still have an anecdotal experience. Sometimes you just need to accept that you don't get an answer, there is no winners and losers. More so whiners and losers.

I think its a perfectly valid metric

People wouldnt kill themselves if life wasnt hard

A man is only worth his usefulness, a woman has an inherent value

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ZannoL posted...

I don't think using a famous woman is a very good example.

She has access to the best creams, the best facials, the best diet, the best plastic surgeons, and doesn't have the same workload as the average woman (she probably has nannies, cooks, etc.).

Of course she is going to look good.

So what is the example of a man aging gracefully?
None eas given.

Most men look older than their wives even if their wife is older than them.
Is that aging better than women?

GoodOlJr posted...

I think its a perfectly valid metric

People wouldnt kill themselves if life wasnt hard

A man is only worth his usefulness, a woman has an inherent value

And that value comes with more pressure and responsibility. Sure, no one is forced to participate. But when you don't participate, you start losing that value to people anyway. Same as us. Im sure a lot of guys here feel they're not valued because they don't participate in things that give them value.

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No, I wouldn't say so.

Several of my problems would disappear immediately (or never would have happened in the first place) if I were a woman, where as a man those same problems will persist for years if not the rest of my life (as short as it might end up being).
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lol @ responding to a dude who got over 30 accounts banned for sexist topics depicting women being attack
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Did you even say anything here? It doesn't matter if you're talking better or easier. Easier in this regard, would be better. If you think you have enough perspective to answer that then you're just showing you're unaware of your own ignorance. A mutual ignorance. But when you're ignorant to your ignorance, you stacking debuffs lol

I don't know, did I? Doesn't it? Would it be? Am I? Call me when you figure it out. Or not.

RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...

lol @ responding to a dude who got over 30 accounts banned for sexist topics depicting women being attack

Im bored. Most the reason I argue is so I can dive into my own mind. It forces me to critically think about stuff Id usually only giving a passing thought. Im usually simultaneously realizing how I feel about subjects lol

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darkphoenix181 posted...

So what is the example of a man aging gracefully?
None eas given.

Most men look older than their wives even if their wife is older than them.
Is that aging better than women?

I don't think this guys has ever heard of makeup.

You know... that thing that women put on their faces? Take the pounds of makeup away and you see a completely different person.

Men aren't just more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to GET cancer also more likely to DIE once they have cancer.

https://blog.dana-farber.org/insight/2018/10/men-likely-women-develop-cancer-course-lives/

Statistics show that men have about a one in two chance of developing cancer during their lifetime, while women have a one in three chance. Why is mens risk of the disease higher?

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

Cancer mortality is higher among men than women (196.8 per 100,000 men and 139.6 per 100,000 women). When comparing groups based on race/ethnicity and sex, cancer mortality is highest in African American men (239.9 per 100,000) and lowest in Asian/Pacific Islander women (88.3 per 100,000).

darkphoenix181 posted...

Men aren't just more likely to commit suicide but also more likely to GET cancer also more likely to DIE once they have cancer.

https://blog.dana-farber.org/insight/2018/10/men-likely-women-develop-cancer-course-lives/

Statistics show that men have about a one in two chance of developing cancer during their lifetime, while women have a one in three chance. Why is mens risk of the disease higher?

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

Cancer mortality is higher among men than women (196.8 per 100,000 men and 139.6 per 100,000 women). When comparing groups based on race/ethnicity and sex, cancer mortality is highest in African American men (239.9 per 100,000) and lowest in Asian/Pacific Islander women (88.3 per 100,000).

I mean, women are definitely more health conscious than dudes. How is that a surprise? How many relationships is it the woman convincing the man to eat better rather than vice versa? Are you counting the joy you get from smashing your third big mac while the chick eats a salad? Of course men have more health problems. But you can't say woman have it easier just because they try harder in that area. But I really don't want this conversation to move onto talking about cancer, so Im probably gonna just go cook dinner

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

I mean, women are definitely more health conscious than dudes. How is that a surprise? How many relationships is it the woman convincing the man to eat better rather than vice versa? Are you counting the joy you get from smashing your third big mac while the chick eats a salad? Of course men have more health problems. But you can't say woman have it easier just because they try harder in that area. But I really don't want this conversation to move onto talking about cancer, so Im probably gonna just go cook dinner

Men can't even catch a break for being more likely to die. Somehow it is their own fault lmao.

Yes. Living an unhealthy life and dying earlier because of it, is indeed that persons fault. It doesn't surprise me that you have a hard time coming to terms with that. I take drugs regularly, when I die earlier for that, should I blame women? Would that satisfy you?

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I think both genders come with their own sets of struggles. Shared and exclusive.
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Lost_All_Senses posted...

But you can't say woman have it easier just because they try harder in that area

Outside of gender, willpower is relative, its hard for a fat/depressed person to even get up off the couch

Whereas a 10k might be fun for a fit person

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Yes. Living an unhealthy life and dying earlier because of it, is indeed that persons fault. It doesn't surprise me that you have a hard time coming to terms with that. I take drugs regularly, when I die earlier for that, should I blame women? Would that satisfy you?

Let me ask you a simple question.

If there is a trend that exists for men across the globe and said trend exists at all economic levels,

Would you not say this is less of a self-inflicted choice and more of human imposed gender societization?

In less fancy talk, men act that way not because they want to, but because they are brainwashed to think that is how men act.

Aka, men are more likely to die because they struggle to break out of living a harder life due to a mindset imposed on them by humanity across cultures.

Deadpool_18 posted...

I think both genders come with their own sets of struggles. Shared and exclusive.

Ah, a fellow man not suffering from victim syndrome

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Can't say for sure, never been one.

I can imagine it'd be easier in a few ways but more difficult in most.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Let me ask you a simple question.

If there a trend that exists for men across the globe and said trend exists at all economic levels,

Would you not say this is less of a self-inflicted choice and more of human imposed gender societization?

In less fancy talk, men act that way not because they want to, but because they are brainwashed to think that is how men act.

Aka, men are more likely to die because they struggle to break out of living a harder life due to a mindset imposed on them by humanity across cultures.

Lucky women, never having mindsets imposed on them. Getting to be whoever they want with no pressure to be anything else... seriously dude, you have a fantasy view of what a womans life is.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Lucky women, never having mindsets imposed on them. Getting to be whoever they want with no pressure to be anything else... seriously dude, you have a fantasy view of what a womans life is.

1. I didn't say they didn't.

2. You apparently think all or most of women's issues are outside their control but all or most of male issues are their own fault. Lmao

3. What makes life harder to live is when people don't help you face your issues cause they claim they are self-inflicted.
Women have more support because people like you are more likely to blame men for their own issues.
Infact, one reason men seek help less is because of this. Might be why they are less likely to seek out advice for health probelms etc. They figured someone just blame them,

objectively yes but virgins will say no just because hurr durr getting sex is easier and thats all that matters
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metralo posted...

objectively yes but virgins will say no just because hurr durr getting sex is easier and thats all that matters

So thats a non factor cause you said hurr durr?

Can you go on record saying "hurr durr" is your argument please?

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Depends on where you are. And in some ways yes, some ways no.

Lorenzo_2003 posted...

also has a massive guilt complex

r we talking about the fundamentals of democracy rn
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holy i went to go slide up to fix my quote and fuck this topic
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In the US, no.

In other parts of the world? Maybe

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Problem is, you guys can't put aside your bias to realize that Im only coming down on guys an unbalanced amount. It's just that ITT there are guys not taking responsibility for their issues. There are no woman in here complaining. No body to come down on. All I do is parrot what you complain about and say women go through the same struggles. You somehow construe that into me saying it's not the women's fault they can be in the same position. Unlike you, I see issues as human issues. I don't think genders are living in 2 different universes. Where apparently men get all the negative impact and women are given immunity somehow.

Also, you can't accept help if you don't accept that you have to take some responsibility for your life. That's like step 1.

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metralo posted...

objectively yes but virgins will say no just because hurr durr getting sex is easier and thats all that matters

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Man, these topics are great for when you want to feel like the least shallow person in the room.

"If I was a girl Id be getting fucked all day on a pile of money"

Yeah..is that all you want out of life?

The best is when you guys imply that women can just get whatever they want whenever and are free of any mental stress. I'd love to see you guys take a run at being the opposite sex. Slowly realizing that it's 90% your choices and attitude that put you where you are. Getting fucked by guys you thought you had wrapped around your finger and then realize they're not calling you back lol.

Yeah, I truly wish I were a female. I don't care about the physical disadvantages (periods, pregnancy, psychically weaker than men) because the advantages far outweigh them to me. I'd be able to express myself more freely, I'd get to be overtly sexual and use it to get my way, it'd be easier to maintain my looks/physique than it is as a male. I could just spend all my time... on me, and, that's much, much easier than what I gotta do now, as a man.

Men have too much shit to deal with, and I'd gladly switch genders with any female that hates being a woman, if it were possible. I'm female in mind and spirit already, so it'll be a dream come true for me.

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Greatly depends on what country and time period.


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I am so fucking glad I'm a man, because life is so much easier and safer for me.

The shit my wife explains to me blows my mind. Fuck being a woman, that would be hell.

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The only correct person to ask this kind of question to is a trans person

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TreyFlowers posted...

I am so fucking glad I'm a man, because life is so much easier and safer for me.

The shit my wife explains to me blows my mind. Fuck being a woman, that would be hell.

As a man you

Will likely die sooner
Are more likely to die at the job
Are more likely to be the victim of a violent attack
Are expected to defend you family with you life

So how exactly are men safer?

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