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ViewtifulGrave
12/09/19 9:52:41 PM
#51:


CM_Ponch posted...
He and Poe both got ruined by TLJ. Poe got handed the idiot ball and Finn had his story and redemption stolen by Rose.
Lol wut???

Poe saved everyone in the beginning of the movie. If he did not press on with the attack the drednought would have killed everyone after they jumped through hyperspace.

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HylianFox
12/09/19 9:53:46 PM
#52:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Poe saved everyone in the beginning of the movie. If he did not press on with the attack the drednought would have killed everyone after they jumped through hyperspace.
but everyone still treats him like a moron

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SSJGrimReaper
12/09/19 9:53:49 PM
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Doesn't help that his main antagonist Phasma had maybe 2 minutes of total screen time was dumped in a garbage bin in TFA and the killed in a 20 second fight in TLJ

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HylianFox
12/09/19 9:54:46 PM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
Doesn't help that his main antagonist Phasma had maybe 2 minutes of total screen time was dumped in a garbage bin in TFA and the killed in a 20 second fight in TLJ
Phasma was the Boba Fett of the new trilogy
potentially a major badass, then tossed aside

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/09/19 9:54:58 PM
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At last, I have accrued enough objective proof that TLJ is teh sux0rz. Now the girls will love me. Take that MOM.

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s0nicfan
12/09/19 9:56:43 PM
#56:


HylianFox posted...
Phasma was the Boba Fett of the new trilogy
potentially a major badass, then tossed aside



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Ivynn
12/09/19 10:01:44 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Daisy is also pissed and says she's done as soon as her contract is up.
Damn, sounds like everyone is getting off this sinking ship.

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SSJGrimReaper
12/09/19 10:04:34 PM
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evil_zombie11
12/09/19 10:08:22 PM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
At last, I have accrued enough objective proof that TLJ is teh sux0rz. Now the girls will love me. Take that MOM.

"I'm gonna look hip and cool and show off my bad taste by loving TLJ. Finally society will like me."

this joke goes both ways.

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Ivynn
12/09/19 10:14:17 PM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
Doesn't help that his main antagonist Phasma had maybe 2 minutes of total screen time was dumped in a garbage bin in TFA and the killed in a 20 second fight in TLJ
Everything Abrams set up was put in the trash bin by RJ for the sake of Subverting Expectations.

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konokonohamaru
12/09/19 10:15:38 PM
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Ivynn posted...

Everything Abrams set up was put in the trash bin by RJ for the sake of Subverting Expectations.

Rian Johnson apparently forgot that it was supposed to be a trilogy
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LordFarquad1312
12/09/19 10:20:06 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Everything Abrams set up was put in the trash bin by RJ for the sake of Subverting Expectations.
And I'm sure Abrams took a piss out of whatever RJ was trying to set up.

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FortuneCookie
12/09/19 10:21:46 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
So they drop the ball for his character again and let Rey mary sue it up.

The future is female and John ain't female. :v
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darkjedilink
12/09/19 10:24:44 PM
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SSJGrimReaper posted...
https://www.slashfilm.com/new-star-wars-trio-future-disney/
https://mobile.twitter.com/johnboyega/status/1194681324675747840?lang=en

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12/09/19 10:25:32 PM
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dave_is_slick
12/09/19 10:40:44 PM
#66:


ViewtifulGrave posted...
Poe saved everyone in the beginning of the movie. If he did not press on with the attack the drednought would have killed everyone after they jumped through hyperspace.
People always magically forget about this.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/09/19 10:41:07 PM
#67:


evil_zombie11 posted...
"I'm gonna look hip and cool and show off my bad taste by loving TLJ. Finally society will like me."

this joke goes both ways.
It may go both ways, but only one of them seems to have struck a nerve.

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darkjedilink
12/09/19 10:46:57 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
People always magically forget about this.
No, we don't. We just realized that the whole rest of the movie was spent beating us over the head with the idea that he was wrong to do so.

He was literally demoted for saving everyone, because that was bad somehow.

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Zeeak4444
12/09/19 10:50:20 PM
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Zikten posted...
I'd feel more sorry for him if he hadn't said something dumb about Game of Thrones "where are all the black people?"

he must have watched like one random episode and judged on that. one that happened to not show the black characters

What black people? In the show theres like 4, two who die in the same season they are introduced and the other two are Missandi and Grey Worm.

theres a few more in the books but idk what youre talking about lol, its not hard to see GoT has very very few black characters.

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dave_is_slick
12/09/19 11:31:27 PM
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darkjedilink posted...
No, we don't. We just realized that the whole rest of the movie was spent beating us over the head with the idea that he was wrong to do so.
I was talking about the people who think Poe got what he deserved.

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darkjedilink
12/10/19 9:40:45 AM
#71:


dave_is_slick posted...
I was talking about the people who think Poe got what he deserved.
My bad.

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action52
12/10/19 10:14:33 AM
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dave_is_slick posted...
I was talking about the people who think Poe got what he deserved.
I know right? He deserved to get thrown in the brig or court martialed for his insubordination.

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cjsdowg
12/10/19 11:22:37 AM
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action52 posted...
I know right? He deserved to get thrown in the brig or court martialed for his insubordination.

Should Finn have as well. Holdo literally told them to wait and die. When he asked what the plan he just said have hope. Poe was right to do what he did.

It would be one thing if she said. There is a plan but it is need to know and you don't need to know. But she acted as if there was no plan. So the moral is to follow your leaders blindly ? If that was the case, Finn should have submitted to Phasma.

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TommyG663513
12/10/19 11:33:49 AM
#74:


SSJGrimReaper posted...
how can you take a cool concept backstory of an ex-strormtrooper with PTSD turning into a jedi and throw it out to turn the character into a comic relief black friend trope

This. Finn is a racist trope. Boyega deserved better. Was very excited to see what they'd do with this character before TFA, but it became very clear early on that he would only really amount to goofy comic relief sidekick.

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XXmiznatorXX
12/10/19 11:38:48 AM
#75:


TommyG663513 posted...
This. Finn is a racist trope. Boyega deserved better. Was very excited to see what they'd do with this character before TFA, but it became very clear early on that he would only really amount to goofy comic relief sidekick.
YES! I'm a black guy and I sensed the same thing too. They (Disney) made a big deal about being diverse in these new movies but they made the black guy be the goofy janitor. I thought that he was gonna bust out a JJ Evans and randomly shoutout DYNOOMITE!!!

Far from the days of people like Lando and Mace Windu, who I just saw as powerful strong leaders that just happened to be black.
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MacDaMurderer
12/10/19 11:41:18 AM
#76:


Shablagoo posted...
Alt-right icon John Boyega

Alt Righters cant thief a wine like John tho.

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cjsdowg
12/10/19 11:42:54 AM
#77:


XXmiznatorXX posted...
YES! I'm a black guy and I sensed the same thing too. They (Disney) made a big deal about being diverse in these new movies but they made the black guy be the goofy janitor. I thought that he was gonna bust out a JJ Evans and randomly shoutout DYNOOMITE!!!

Far from the days of people like Lando and Mace Windu, who I just saw as powerful strong leaders that just happened to be black.

To me I found it funny that the "progressive people" people talking about how racist and sexist people were who hated this movie, while supporting Stepin Finn. And they didn't even see an issue with him having all of his agency stripped away in TLJ.

In the TFA he made the choice to stand up to evil , in this one he is literally beat into that same stance after he forgot.

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XXmiznatorXX
12/10/19 11:45:16 AM
#78:


cjsdowg posted...
To me I found it funny that the "progressive people" people talking about how racist and sexist people were who hated this movie, while supporting Stepin Finn. And they didn't even see an issue with him having all of his agency stripped away in TLJ.

In the TFA he made the choice to stand up to evil , in this one he is literally beat into that same stance after he forgot.

Exactly. He went from at least being somewhat of a hero in TFA to "herp derp look there's water coming from my outfit LOL I better leave again...oh hi random girl. I guess I'll just hang out with you this entire movie while still being a coward"
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refmon
12/10/19 5:34:00 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
This is a topic


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Kraidette
12/10/19 5:34:30 PM
#80:


John Boyega is a disappointment period

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Trigg3rH4ppy
12/10/19 5:41:51 PM
#81:


mew4ever posted...
Honestly I think if Rose didnt save him and he did sacrifice himself on the salt planet or whatever, it wouldve given him a nice little arc. The guy who wanted to run away in TFA, and ran away (admittedly to find Rey) to start TLJ, running straight at a problem knowing itll be his death, to give the resistance a chance, it wouldve been a little something. Certainly better than what he actually got in the film.

I never watched any of these movies but that sounds like a good plot


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12/10/19 6:55:53 PM
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It would have been funny seeing the sjw articles complaining about Finn dying and how Disney needs to do more about diversity.

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TheGleamEyes
12/10/19 7:14:41 PM
#83:


Movie's own actors hate movie direction

Deluded fans: "No no, movie good!"

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action52
12/10/19 8:34:53 PM
#84:


TheGleamEyes posted...
Movie's own actors hate movie direction

Deluded fans: "No no, movie good!"
Yes because if a movie is good, the actors are always 100% on board with it. You sure as hell won't find any of the OT actors complaining about their movies! Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness famously LOVED the movies they were in, and couldn't stop gushing about how much they loved them and wanted to make more.

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dave_is_slick
12/10/19 9:51:35 PM
#85:


action52 posted...
Harrison Ford and Alec Guinness famously LOVED the movies they were in, and couldn't stop gushing about how much they loved them and wanted to make more.
I love how you totally ignore this was during an era where sci-fi was looked down on.

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Guy_Fieri
12/10/19 9:53:18 PM
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I wonder if he boned Daisy Ridley

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action52
12/10/19 10:22:28 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
I love how you totally ignore this was during an era where sci-fi was looked down on.
You think Harrison Ford looked down on science fiction?

Anyway do you think it would be hard to find examples of movies where the actors disagreed with the director in a big way? Like I remember hearing about how in Spartacus practically everyone thought the movie they were making was terrible. They disagreed with the director about everything. Kubrick pretty much disowns the movie today. And yet it is widely considered one of the great films in American cinema.

And again you can find common examples of this. A lot of the best movies are ones where the actors disagreed bitterly with the direction their movie was going.

My point is that some of the actors saying they weren't happy with some of the decisions the director made don't mean shit.

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