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CruelBuffalo
12/14/19 1:01:52 PM
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rewatching again
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Skye Reynolds
12/14/19 1:06:25 PM
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wut?

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yusiko
12/14/19 1:13:21 PM
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yes

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Prestoff
12/14/19 1:20:37 PM
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It was a show that was ahead of its time.

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JuanCarlos1
12/14/19 1:22:14 PM
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It was probably more accepted in Japan back then.

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Kazi1212
12/14/19 1:22:51 PM
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yusiko posted...
yes


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CruelBuffalo
12/14/19 1:37:30 PM
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Prestoff posted...
It was a show that was ahead of its time.


lol but if its now its pandering trash
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SSJGrimReaper
12/14/19 1:56:26 PM
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Jet is black

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Malfunction
12/14/19 1:58:39 PM
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Somebody post that war is bad woah cool robot pic
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DrunkieBrewster
12/14/19 2:01:49 PM
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I never understood how a Conservative could identify with anime characters who put humanity first. Or with characters who use their powers to protect people against evil factions instead of using it for conquest.

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PleaseClap
12/14/19 2:05:06 PM
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Guide
12/14/19 2:08:19 PM
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Supernatural
12/14/19 2:10:35 PM
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.hack//sign kept throwing trans people and pansexuality in our faces!!

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PleaseClap
12/14/19 2:10:46 PM
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Guide posted...


God do I hate those people.

This reminded me of a topic on CE a few months back where people were trying to claim that the Assassin's Creed series and Modern Warfare 2 had absolutely no political themes at all. They might've also claimed that fallout 3 was apolitical too, but I can't quite remember
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Notti
12/15/19 10:41:52 PM
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PleaseClap posted...


https://i.imgur.com/vw95mrp.png

and a bonus

https://i.imgur.com/TAoOd8n.jpg


It's fun how this can be applied to video games and (especially) comics too.

I think of it as manchildren refusing to grow up and being stuck in their limited childhood perception of their favorite media.
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evil_zombie11
12/15/19 10:43:51 PM
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Japan pulls that stuff off in a more natural way to where it doesn't feel forced.


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Shablagoo
12/15/19 10:46:36 PM
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Notti posted...
It's fun how this can be applied to video games and (especially) comics too.

I think of it as manchildren refusing to grow up and being stuck in their limited childhood perception of their favorite media.

Lmao, always loved that Gundam one. Never saw the Cloud one until now

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coh
12/15/19 10:46:43 PM
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DrunkieBrewster posted...
I never understood how a Conservative could identify with anime characters who put humanity first. Or with characters who use their powers to protect people against evil factions instead of using it for conquest.
I'm not sure why a conservative couldn't identify with either of those things
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ssjevot
12/15/19 10:54:37 PM
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I thought people would feel that way about Iron Blooded Orphans. I remember thinking "American right-wing anime fans are going to be losing their shit about there being literal cucking, poly, and gay relationships!" and then they didn't. I don't really have any explanation, just remember thinking it was weird that got a pass when it feels like the most minor shit triggers those people.

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evil_zombie11
12/15/19 10:57:11 PM
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ssjevot posted...
I thought people would feel that way about Iron Blooded Orphans. I remember thinking "American right-wing anime fans are going to be losing their shit about there being literal cucking, poly, and gay relationships!" and then they didn't. I don't really have any explanation, just remember thinking it was weird that got a pass when it feels like the most minor shit triggers those people.

I think anime is left wing in general. And judging by tumblr and what anime fans look like in general, they tend to be majority liberals.

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coh
12/15/19 11:00:22 PM
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evil_zombie11 posted...
I think anime is left wing in general. And judging by tumblr and what anime fans look like in general, they tend to be majority liberals.
Some anime maybe, but none of the anime I've watched I would consider left wing

in fact the PC crowd would lose their shit over a lot of anime
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evil_zombie11
12/15/19 11:04:29 PM
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coh posted...
Some anime maybe, but none of the anime I've watched I would consider left wing

in fact the PC crowd would lose their shit over a lot of anime

True. Although now I'll be thinking which animes are right and left wing leaning now lol.

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Wewillrocku
12/15/19 11:04:42 PM
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*bebop

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ssjevot
12/15/19 11:07:44 PM
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Anime just reflects a lot of Japanese cultural values which aren't the same as America's. There is basically no puritan/prude or religious culture here, so it offends both socially right and left-wing Americans for a variety of reasons. I personally love that about Japan and have no desire to be surrounded by people who hate sex in media or go on about religion.

That said the economic aspect is definitely not left-wing in most anime. Outside of Miyazaki I don't think anyone prominent in anime directing has been very involved in left-wing movements, and even he is a lot less radical now (he used to be heavily involved with the Japanese Communist Party, and even made a manga for them).

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Wewillrocku
12/15/19 11:09:25 PM
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every time people say women are more prejudiced towards transgender people than men are i just show them my copy of ranma 1/2

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Shablagoo
12/16/19 12:26:25 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Anime just reflects a lot of Japanese cultural values which aren't the same as America's. There is basically no puritan/prude or religious culture here, so it offends both socially right and left-wing Americans for a variety of reasons. I personally love that about Japan and have no desire to be surrounded by people who hate sex in media or go on about religion.

That said the economic aspect is definitely not left-wing in most anime. Outside of Miyazaki I don't think anyone prominent in anime directing has been very involved in left-wing movements, and even he is a lot less radical now (he used to be heavily involved with the Japanese Communist Party, and even made a manga for them).

Ooh whats the manga called?

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EverDownward
12/16/19 12:29:42 AM
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cowboy bebop is a pretty excellent anime

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ssjevot
12/16/19 12:40:04 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Ooh whats the manga called?

Shuna's Journey

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Shablagoo
12/16/19 12:45:46 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Shuna's Journey

cheers, thanks! No English translation unfortunately, outside of a text-only one. But I might still check it out if I can get my hands on a copy.

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ssjevot
12/16/19 12:50:16 AM
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It's honestly more of a proto-Nausicaa than anything else. If you can get the English Nausicaa manga just read that instead. It's very good and much longer than the anime was.

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