Current Events > "history buffs" who only know about military history are the worst

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DocDelicious posted...

So I was right.

Go about your business people, nothing to see here.

Undergrads, am I right?
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HannibalBarca3 posted...

The first mistake is thinking the Spartans were a military or a warrior society at all. There's a lot of modern work by the likes of Stephen Hodkinson that have moved away from the idea that Sparta was this hardcore warrior society. Instead when looked upon a critical eye the Spartans really weren't any better than any of the other Greeks, it's all possible that they weren't all that much different than the rest of the Greeks either. They turned a disaster at thermopylae into a huge propaganda victory that still echoes to this day. I'd recommend giving this a read since it gives out a basic overview on modern scholarship's view of Sparta:

http://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/32475/2/Hodkinson.%20Transforming%20Sparta%20Ancient%20History%20Resources%20for%20Teachers%2041-44%202011-2014.pdf

I know it's a bit off for a response but I'll take the opportunity to object over that statement.

Thanks for correcting me, however, I was merely using the Spartans as an example. I don't know very much about the Spartans. I do know a bit about the Spartans in the context of history, strategy, and international relations (ever heard of the Thucydides Trap?)

And that article is dated from 2014. Scholarship on this is still in its infancy. Thanks for the link though.


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I know next to nothing about world history. But since I've been learning to invest for a year now, I've been wanting to learn and have been dabbling a teeny tiny bit about history of money. When you learn about the ebb and flow about money, what gives the USD its value (nothing, or the military are good answers), it puts a lot of actions and decisions countries make in a different perspective which ties into military history to explain why we've gone to a number of wars in the past decade.

That being said...

Vita_Aeterna posted...

It's my major, and I actually attend one of the best universities in the world. Some of the professors in the derpartment are world renowned historians, holding PhDs from Harvard and other Ivy Leagues.

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This was quite amusing. People are going to invest in their interests however they like. And not everyone is going to aim for mastery of their interest. You gotta accept there will always be casuals. Like me!
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Sad_Face posted...

I know next to nothing about world history. But since I've been learning to invest for a year now, I've been wanting to learn and have been dabbling a teeny tiny bit about history of money. When you learn about the ebb and flow about money, what gives the USD its value (nothing, or the military are good answers), it puts a lot of actions and decisions countries make in a different perspective which ties into military history to explain why we've gone to a number of wars in the past decade.

That being said...

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This was quite amusing. People are going to invest in their interests however they like. And not everyone is going to aim for mastery of their interest. You gotta accept there will always be casuals. Like me!

That's okay, just don't call yourself a history buff. You have an interest in military history or money history in your specific case--that's it. In fact that word "buff" should never exist in this context. I formally study history of various things, but I know only 1/10th of what a historian does (we're talking about the general skillsets of a historian here-not just the ability to remember several thousand pages of information). I am neither a history buff, nor a historian. I am a student of history, that's all.

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Vita_Aeterna posted...

That's okay, just don't call yourself a history buff. You have an interest in military history or money history in your specific case--that's it. In fact that word "buff" should never exist in this context. I formally study history of various things, but I know only 1/10th of what a historian does (we're talking about the general skillsets of a historian here-not just the ability to remember several thousand pages of information). I am neither a history buff, nor a historian. I am a student of history, that's all.

Well, they're probably using "buff" as a way of saying that learning history, specifically military history, is they hobby. That's acceptable. In any field there's A LOT to learn and you'll never know enough. I have a physics B.S. degree and I tell people I have a quarter of a degree. One of my mentors who has a Ph.D. and has been in the business (not just school) for decades, is always learning something new. In crypto, I still have yet to "formally" code my smart contract yet I'll go on and on about how smart contracts will take over the world thanks to Chainlink if you give me a chance and have been way in the green profits wise.

As long as you willingly spend your time on a field, and enjoy it, claim it as your own. It'll give you a stronger motivation to learn more and do more with the field as you inch closer to mastering it.
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Yes, good, let the hate flow through you topic creator.


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ElatedVenusaur posted...

You say that like it isn't true of literally every other random group of humans.

its specifically something muslims and christians have done to a scale uncomparable tho @ElatedVenusaur

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

christianity did the same in europe and former roman territories

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Vita_Aeterna posted...

Agreed, but often than not a monograph is going to be published by a university press.

It's my major, and I actually attend one of the best universities in the world. Some of the professors in the derpartment are world renowned historians, holding PhDs from Harvard and other Ivy Leagues.

Lol

Ryuko_Chan posted...

its specifically something muslims and christians have done to a scale uncomparable tho @ElatedVenusaur

And why do you think that?

TheMikh posted...

christianity did the same in europe and former roman territories

im aware, but the OP only talked about islam
see my post above yours
@TheMikh

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Whats wrong with Lindybeige?

I've only seen a couple of his videos, but he makes some pretty bold claims without any sort of sources or anything. Oh, and he also makes really bizarre claims and speculations on medieval combat based on LARPing and RPG experiences.

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Ryuko_Chan posted...

im aware, but the OP only talked about islam
see my post above yours
@TheMikh

ahh, ok.

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TC is definitely a liberal for being so ass devastated by something as minor as this.
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So now there are history buff gatekeepers?

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Powdered_Toast posted...

I've only seen a couple of his videos, but he makes some pretty bold claims without any sort of sources or anything. Oh, and he also makes really bizarre claims and speculations on medieval combat based on LARPing and RPG experiences.

Yeah.
When he knows his stuff with proper sources, he's pretty good.

But when he doesn't know, he speculates alot.
I remember alot of his older "a point about weapon X" videos using some variation of the phrase "i've been swinging it around for a few minutes and that makes me think...." Which could be fine, but he presents it in a way acting like that opinion was factual academia

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