Current Events > Did Thanos include ____ in the ___ (spoilers)

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Himself in the snap?

Was there a 50% chance he would die?

On one hand not including anyone defeats the point of random fairness and makes him a hypocrite.

On the other hand If he dies then any slack jawed idiot still around could use the gauntlet to undo his work. Plus hes evil so him being a hypocrite adds up.

On the other other hand (I have 3 hands) hes one of the stupidest characters in all fiction In terms of his plan so he might literally have not thought about the risk of himself dying.

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Guns_of_Verdun posted...

On the other other hand (I have 3 hands)

I lold

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

He did include himself.

source?
i really doubt it

protecting/destroying the stones makes too much sense to just risk it all on a 50/50

EDIT: i guess tc already brought that up lol

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Although it hasn't been established in the work or by any of the writers, I have my own take.

No he didn't.

From a pragmatic standpoint, it's because the work wasn't done until he used the Stones to destroy the Stones so his work could never be undone.

From a narrative standpoint, it's because he needs his "grateful universe". He needs to know he won. His arrogance is one of his extreme failings.

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I think his reaction to the aftermath implies that he did: he seems to look himself over, surprised to still be whole. I think that Thanos did actually believe his quasi-egalitarian rhetoric.

CyricZ posted...

Although it hasn't been established in the work or by any of the writers, I have my own take.

No he didn't.

From a pragmatic standpoint, it's because the work wasn't done until he used the Stones to destroy the Stones so his work could never be undone.

From a narrative standpoint, it's because he needs his "grateful universe". He needs to know he won. His arrogance is one of his extreme failings.

This is a convincing reading for the contrary, nonetheless.

I don't he cared since his goal was only to reduce the population in half. Nothing more after that.

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I think this was another thing where the writers said he didn't include himself but the directors did.

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

I think this was another thing where the writers said he didn't include himself but the directors did.

Feige said it IIRC.

Which is kinda stupid because it makes Dr. Strange's probability analysis kinda silly.

There should have been far more than 1/14 million outcomes that resulted in a victory.

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he wanted to "watch the sun rise on a grateful universe." can't do that if he snaps himself away.

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what I wanna know is how come animals and plants weren't snapped?

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HylianFox posted...

what I wanna know is how come animals and plants weren't snapped?

Because Thanos is a moron

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Phantom_Nook posted...

he wanted to "watch the sun rise on a grateful universe." can't do that if he snaps himself away.

Did he say that he wants to, or that he will "watch the sun rise on a grateful universe"?

The former expresses a desire that may or may not happen. The latter is a definitive statement on such a fact occurring.

HiddenRoar posted...

Did he say that he wants to, or that he will "watch the sun rise on a grateful universe"?

The former expresses a desire that may or may not happen. The latter is a definitive statement on such a fact occurring.

Thanos: With all six stones, I could simply snap my fingers, and they would all cease to exist. I call that... mercy.
Dr. Stephen Strange: [Stands] And then what?
Thanos: I finally rest... and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe. The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

Take that as you will.

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Did Thanos include pineapple in the pizza?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

There should have been far more than 1/14 million outcomes that resulted in a victory

He said he only viewed 14 million. It's entirely possible there was more than one path to victory. Remember he was interrupted during his meditation, implying he wasn't done. As opposed to him coming out himself and saying "yup I looked at all of them."

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He said, when he gave his solution to the titans, that he would be included in the 50/50 cull. So I don't see why that wouldn't keep that up when he scaled up to universe level

I think the more interesting question is how he defined randomness. Did each planetary body and its expatriats have a 50/50 shot in the context of just that place? Or was it a universal set? The nature of randomness would imply many 'lumpy' outcomes where almost all or none of the population is extinguished on individual planets.

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He included himself, but he was protected by the Soul stone.

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

And he's not exactly an evil character.

umm...


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HylianFox posted...

what I wanna know is how come animals and plants weren't snapped?

i thought he did which is why ant-man just stares into the trees with birds and stuff after the re-snap and thinks it worked.

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Heartomaton posted...

Did Thanos include pineapple in the pizza?

lmao

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AsucaHayashi posted...

i thought he did which is why ant-man just stares into the trees with birds and stuff after the re-snap and thinks it worked.

It definitely did. In the opening with Hawkeye's family, the sounds of things like crickets are pretty prominent, then they fade out when the snap happens. One of the comments on this video points out that at 18 seconds in, you can also see birds between Hawkeye and the target that fade into dust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooAsQ7Z5d2A

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Heartomaton posted...

Did Thanos include pineapple in the pizza?

They called him a madman

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RedWhiteBlue posted...

And he's not exactly an evil character.

Yes he is.

His justification is nonsense and falls apart with even the slightest bit of criticism.


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