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DoomTheGyarados
01/02/20 8:46:15 PM
#101:


Globally it makes a lot of sense actually. Sanders is indeed about there when in context of all democracies world wide. Same thing for Pete and Castro.

I always get super lower left lol

Also I just took it and I found the questions reasonable enough.

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Kinglicious
01/02/20 8:48:50 PM
#102:


Uhh i think there's more problems with that chart than Tulsi's place. That one doesn't seem too off.

That mass of authoritarian right is. And Williamson, the candidate who explicitly wanted reparations, being right wing libertarian is all kinds of funny.

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StealThisSheen
01/02/20 8:55:41 PM
#103:


I'm not fully sure how Tulsi "That stance on the issue I had? Yeah, can I walk it back about twenty times so I can appeal to the right some more?" Gabbard is equally as to the left as Bernie.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/02/20 8:57:03 PM
#104:


I mean in fairness can any site be expected to keep up with Tulsi these days.

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/02/20 8:58:15 PM
#105:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Globally it makes a lot of sense actually. Sanders is indeed about there when in context of all democracies world wide. Same thing for Pete and Castro.

I picked Pete and Castro because Castro is significantly more left than most of the field, at least on social issues. And I'm not disputing that the democrats as a whole aren't center-right but the spread seems to not make any sense and is arbitrary.

And while it's right about Bernie being a social Democrat from a global perspective (though I'm pretty sure he'd join an outright socialist party if he could), I don't see how that is particularly libertarian.

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Kinglicious
01/02/20 9:07:46 PM
#106:


It's probably weighing military heavily.
Though then you look at Trump and he should be more left there so dunno what else is getting a ton more than it should.

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 9:09:46 PM
#107:


A legit test that placed world leaders would use their answers on the same questions (and if the candidates did take this same test, I guarantee they would not all be in the upper right quadrant)

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red13n
01/02/20 9:28:33 PM
#108:


So looks like that missile attack on the airport in Iraq that has been on the news for awhile today might have been launched by...us?

Seems to have killed a couple higher ranking miltary people from Iran.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/20 9:39:47 PM
#109:


https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1212913952436445185

Yeah...this seems problematic.

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Corrik7
01/02/20 9:40:24 PM
#110:


Killed the Iranian general who is leader of the Quds, a terrorist organization designated in 2007, and a deputy general of the Iranian backed Militias.

Safe to say, we probably conducted the attack.

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Corrik7
01/02/20 9:41:19 PM
#111:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1212913952436445185

Yeah...this seems problematic.
They killed a terrorist leader. You have never needed congressional approval for that.

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:41:56 PM
#112:


red13n posted...
So looks like that missile attack on the airport in Iraq that has been on the news for awhile today might have been launched by...us?

Seems to have killed a couple higher ranking miltary people from Iran.
Not just any high-ranking military people. Iran's top covert military commander who is largely responsible for Iran's involvement in Iraq and Syria:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander

This is the biggest single geopolitical take-down since Saddam Hussein.

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Jakyl25
01/02/20 9:43:25 PM
#113:


Kinglicious posted...
It's probably weighing military heavily.
Though then you look at Trump and he should be more left there so dunno what else is getting a ton more than it should.


Trump is honestly unplottable on a political compass.
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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:43:28 PM
#114:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1212913952436445185

Yeah...this seems problematic.
lmfao shut the fuck up, Chris Murphy

this guy had more blood on his hands than any other person in the world next to Assad

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/02/20 9:43:59 PM
#115:


Corrik7 posted...
They killed a terrorist leader. You have never needed congressional approval for that.

You did before the AUMF

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Paratroopa1
01/02/20 9:44:20 PM
#116:


Can we please stop fucking with Iran, who even wants this aside from the hawkiest of republicans
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Corrik7
01/02/20 9:46:04 PM
#117:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
You did before the AUMF
Imagine having to ask a body of like 500 some congressmen to vote and approve on covert military strikes with small timeframes. Jesus.

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Jakyl25
01/02/20 9:46:47 PM
#118:


Corrik7 posted...

Imagine having to ask a body of like 500 some congressmen to vote and approve on covert military strikes with small timeframes. Jesus.


So youre a proponent of a living Constitution? Cool
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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:46:52 PM
#119:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212924762827046918

#KAG

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Corrik7
01/02/20 9:47:15 PM
#120:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Can we please stop fucking with Iran, who even wants this aside from the hawkiest of republicans
They killed an American citizen. You think that should go unscathed? And, attacked our embassy. Should we have just let that go unscathed? We need to pull American citizens from the area and determine the course of action, which likely includes retaliatory strikes such as what you just saw here in return.

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Jakyl25
01/02/20 9:48:33 PM
#121:


Anyway I withhold judgment about this particular strike until we understand what exactly the goal is.
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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:49:24 PM
#122:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Can we please stop fucking with Iran, who even wants this aside from the hawkiest of republicans
They attacked a US embassy. What the fuck do you think we should do?

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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/20 9:49:44 PM
#123:




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Corrik7
01/02/20 9:49:53 PM
#124:


Honestly, let's be serious. The fact a full blown war didn't break out with Iran fucking with the oil shipping lanes and the drone attack on oil fields was a testament to the pacifist nature of Trump. I err on the sides of wanting to leave regions and just stay at home.

However, when you are killing American citizens, you have to do something in response to show the American people will be protected and their lives being taken will be punished immensely.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/20 9:51:14 PM
#125:


Corrik7 posted...
Honestly, let's be serious. The fact a full blown war didn't break out with Iran f***ing with the oil shipping lanes and the drone attack on oil fields was a testament to the pacifist nature of Trump.

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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TheRock1525
01/02/20 9:51:24 PM
#126:


Corrik7 posted...
The fact a full blown war didn't break out with Iran fucking with the oil shipping lanes and the drone attack on oil fields
Do we have confirmation it was Iran?

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:51:36 PM
#127:


Jakyl25 posted...
Anyway I withhold judgment about this particular strike until we understand what exactly the goal is.
To kill the guys who are responsible for attacks on US citizens, as well as key leaders of a movement to destabilize the Middle East and murder countless Syrian and Iraqi civilians.

Trump should get a medal for this.

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:52:15 PM
#128:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The guys were killed in Iraq

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:53:26 PM
#129:


I absolutely love this. Trump tweeted that there would be swift vengeance against Iran. A day later, we murder its top military commanders. Never fucking call our bluff again!

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 9:54:00 PM
#130:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
I absolutely love this. Trump tweeted that there would be swift vengeance against Iran. A day later, we murder its top military commanders. Never fucking call our bluff again!
Kim called his bluff and faced absolutely zero consequences

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Jakyl25
01/02/20 9:54:34 PM
#131:


SephG youre being lewd
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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:55:10 PM
#132:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

straight up pulling out his cock

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:55:43 PM
#133:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Kim called his bluff and faced absolutely zero consequences
Kim didn't try to kill any Americans or allies

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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/20 9:55:48 PM
#134:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
The guys were killed in Iraq

Is this you making a quip or do you think that's a point?

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red sox 777
01/02/20 9:56:30 PM
#135:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Kim called his bluff and faced absolutely zero consequences

No he didn't. No bluff was made. And Kim holds all the cards so Trump won't try to bluff against him.

If it were Obama, Iran might have launched an invasion of Iraq in response to this, counting on us to surrender.

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 9:57:31 PM
#136:


https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1212928529995829248

YES feeeeeeeeeeed my hawkishness

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 10:00:06 PM
#137:


Anyway, I would feel a hell of a lot better about this if the president of the United States was a sane person

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 10:02:41 PM
#138:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Anyway, I would feel a hell of a lot better about this if the president of the United States was a sane person
Person A: it's okay, I'm not mad *kills someone*

Person B: I am going to kill him *kills him*

Person A is Barack Obama, insane person.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/02/20 10:02:52 PM
#139:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Anyway, I would feel a hell of a lot better about this if the president of the United States was a sane person


I don't think it should matter who's sitting in the oval office to decide whether this will lead to good things.

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 10:03:18 PM
#140:


Like how much do you want to bet that Trump's primary motivation here wasn't getting attention off of his impeachment? Do you honestly think his primary concern is the safety of Americans in harm's way?

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Corrik7
01/02/20 10:04:01 PM
#141:


TheRock1525 posted...
Do we have confirmation it was Iran?
You can't criticize Trump for doubting our intelligence agencies if you are going to selectively do it also.

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 10:04:30 PM
#142:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Like how much do you want to bet that Trump's primary motivation here wasn't getting attention off of his impeachment? Do you honestly think his primary concern is the safety of Americans in harm's way?
Did Trump fake the storming of the embassy too?

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 10:04:40 PM
#143:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I don't think it should matter who's sitting in the oval office to decide whether this will lead to good things.
It matters a ton because it determines whether there's actually a strategy here or if Trump is just going with his gut at each step with no thought of the consequences.

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red sox 777
01/02/20 10:04:57 PM
#144:


His primary motivation is making America greater.

If Hillary were in charge we could well be at war right now. And we would lose the war too.

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Jakyl25
01/02/20 10:05:17 PM
#145:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Like how much do you want to bet that Trump's primary motivation here wasn't getting attention off of his impeachment? Do you honestly think his primary concern is the safety of Americans in harm's way?


Nah I can believe his primary motivation was his big penis, as Seph said
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Corrik7
01/02/20 10:05:43 PM
#146:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Did Trump fake the storming of the embassy too?
False flag bruh

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Kinglicious
01/02/20 10:05:59 PM
#147:


Due to the time frame and the fact that this would've been voted a clear yes, I'm okay with this being without approval, despite the fact that it should've been.

And Tony, Trump isn't Obama. While war and Obama go over well, it's a really bad mix with Trump supporters as they've been consistently anti-war. It's one of the major overlaps he shares with Bernie. This attack will go over fine due to the recent actions by Iran and the specific target. Hell, it'll go over well with anybody on the left who had a major problem with pulling out of Syria since we probably fucked Iran on that too.


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Corrik7
01/02/20 10:06:21 PM
#148:


There was zero chance after he criticized Benghazi so greatly that he wasn't gonna hammer down hard in return here. He basically had to or he was totally full of shit.

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LordoftheMorons
01/02/20 10:06:35 PM
#149:


Nelson_Mandela posted...
Did Trump fake the storming of the embassy too?
No. But he presumably decided on this response, which I assume was the most aggressive option presented to him. I think the odds that he made that decision based on the interests of the United States rather than his political interests is extremely low

In fact, zero

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Nelson_Mandela
01/02/20 10:07:11 PM
#150:


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1212933074155003904/photo/1

I'm nutting

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