Board 8 > When's the last time that you personally experienced racism?

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calling someone black isn't racist
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

As a white person in NYC who sometimes has to walk past Hispanic/black teens at night, I have probably experienced more direct racial abuse than any non-Muslim/non-Jewish minority born after 1970.

Oh like you're one of those kids that looks surly all the time and looks at minorities scared and shit.

I've seen racial tensions be brought over subtle body language so I can see why people just attract that sort of thing despite it never happening to me.

True story this tatt'd up ex-gang member customer (when I was working at a convenience store in a mixed area) once told me I was one of the only people who made him feel like a regular dude. Try to be like me!

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pjbasis posted...

Oh like you're one of those kids that looks surly all the time and looks at minorities scared and shit.

I've seen racial tensions be brought over subtle body language so I can see why people just attract that sort of thing despite it never happening to me.

True story this tatt'd up ex-gang member customer (when I was working at a convenience store in a mixed area) once told me I was one of the only people who made him feel like a regular dude. Try to be like me!

This definitely plays a big part in it.

If you act scared or the like, that can obviously be picked up as a slight against them, since your body language is giving off a vibe of treating them differently.

It's probably why I still use "colored" occasionally, since that's how you were raised at the time where I grew up, and anybody who may have been offended by it in a conversation where it potentially came up didn't take it as a slight since they knew who I was and knew I wasn't using it to be racist or disrespectful.

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came in this topic to see who were the victims and got exactly what i expected.

pjbasis posted...

Oh like you're one of those kids that looks surly all the time and looks at minorities scared and shit.

I've seen racial tensions be brought over subtle body language so I can see why people just attract that sort of thing despite it never happening to me.

True story this tatt'd up ex-gang member customer (when I was working at a convenience store in a mixed area) once told me I was one of the only people who made him feel like a regular dude. Try to be like me!

Love that you'd rather blame a white person for using the wrong body language than the savages threatening to kill/rob/rape someone because they aren't the right skin color.

@SavageInTheBox you're doing God's work

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HashtagSEP posted...

It's probably why I still use "colored" occasionally, since that's how you were raised at the time where I grew up, and anybody who may have been offended by it in a conversation where it potentially came up didn't take it as a slight since they knew who I was and knew I wasn't using it to be racist or disrespectful, so nobody ever said anything to me about it

Holy shit dude I have to believe you're being satirical. "I'm too ignorant to be racist!!!"

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I knew you would go there because you're in love with victimizing yourself. (those 'savages also like doing that which is why they respond so harshly)

No, just because I believe in personal responsibility doesn't mean you deserved it. A woman raped never deserves it but I would still warn a woman not to be by herself at night in certain places.

But just ignore nuance because I don't think you really enjoy thinking things aren't as cut and dry as you think.

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In the 80s and 90s, where I grew up, black people didn't want to be called black. "Colored" was the acceptable term at the time.

Sorry that's not your personal experience?

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"Nonwhites," "packs" and "savages" those sure are some telling word choices

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Another point you see at work here is people refusing to actually respond to each other's words, instead attacking what they believe to be the unsaid insinuation. (This is also how racial tensions break out)

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pjbasis posted...

I knew you would go there because you're in love with victimizing yourself.

No, just because I believe in personal responsibility doesn't mean you deserved it. A woman raped never deserves it but I would still warn a woman not to be by herself at night in certain places.

But just ignore nuance because I don't think you really enjoy thinking things aren't as cut and dry as you think.

My only point is that certain black neighborhoods are just as, if not more directly racist against whites than some WASPy neighborhood is against blacks.

And if you're an orthodox Jew walking in a black neighborhood, you're pretty much guaranteed to be verbally abused (or worse) at least once a week.

But I guess it's their body language.

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And my point is that people (all people) are racist for more things than just "because."

I think your behavior even passively would influence that number much more than you think.

I don't think we can really argue about the statistics of how often a week someone might be called a racial slur so I think it's silly to even talk about that. We can talk about true abstract things though.

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Xiahou Shake posted...

"Nonwhites," "packs" and "savages" those sure are some telling word choices

I don't know who on my Ignore list is saying stuff like that in this topic but woooooooooooooooooooooow

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KamikazePotato posted...

I don't know who on my Ignore list is saying stuff like that in this topic but woooooooooooooooooooooow

I was going to give you three choices but then I typed the first choice as "SephG" and I knew you'd get it right away anyway so what's the point

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when I was a youth I volunteered in the very black very poor part of town

nobody seemed to have an issue with my existence

I know there are rougher "bad part of town" areas in the US but it was rough enough that I think it proves the point that you can exist as a white person in that kinda space without a buncha big scary thugs threatening your life for no good reason or whatever

heck I volunteered in Chinatown in college and yeah it took some doing for folks to relax around us but everybody was nice

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I haven't really experienced any since high school. I'm pretty white and played a lot of street ball in high school and that was the most racism I've had to deal with. The slurs and stuff didn't bother me too much but sometimes they refused to pass to me or even let me join the game. Some threats were issued but I never had to deal with any violence.

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MZero11 posted...

I haven't really experienced any since high school. I'm pretty white and played a lot of street ball in high school and that was the most racism I've had to deal with. The slurs and stuff didn't bother me too much but sometimes they refused to pass to me or even let me join the game. Some threats were issued but I never had to deal with any violence.

You probably should have had better body language

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HashtagSEP posted...

Anyhoo, I grew up near Cleveland, often being in several predominantly colored areas, and never once got a reaction as a white guy, so I'm not sure where these "packs" of colored people that walk around commonly threatening to kill white people are.

You want racism in Cleveland? Work for the county. It's like the worst parts of 1960s-1970s race division. (At least, it was when I left ten years ago. Maybe the change in leadership changed some of that.)

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Then you've never met nonwhites in packs and I can only assume you've had a very sheltered existence.

I didnt realize people of color travel in packs like wolves
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Whats a chanclas

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I'm ethnically Chinese and I can't remember the last time I personally experienced racism. Definitely nothing in my adult life.

uh...when I was in fourth grade, we were doing macrame in class. Another kid was like "make sure you tie the knots tightly, or it looks like a bunch of Chinese beef!" and I got all embarrassed. (In retrospect I dunno if he was aiming that comment at me, or if it would count as racism if he did. Probably not?)

When I was even younger, some kids called me racist slurs on the school bus. I don't actually recall this but I told my parents at the time and they told me about it later.

That's all I can think of, offhand.
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were there like no chinese or other asian kids in your school?

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JebronLames posted...

were there like no chinese or other asian kids in your school?

There were a couple others. Actually, now that I think of it, I was good friends with another Chinese kid, and he was always annoyed that people kept thinking the two of us were siblings. It didn't bother me, though. (we did look pretty similar imo)
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Drakeryn posted...

There were a couple others. Actually, now that I think of it, I was good friends with another Chinese kid, and he was always annoyed that people kept thinking the two of us were siblings. It didn't bother me, though. (we did look pretty similar imo)

you didn't experience much bullying? i read, that easily, asians are the group that gets bullied the most usually in school

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JebronLames posted...

you didn't experience much bullying? i read, that easily, asians are the group that gets bullied the most usually in school

Not particularly, and if things happened it wasn't racially based. Like in third grade the desks in the classroom were all in groups of four, but there were two desks left over, and I happened to be paired there with a girl. So a bunch of the guys made fun of my ~*~*~girlfriend~*~*~ (this was third grade it was a pretty big diss) but it obviously had nothing to do with race.
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Drakeryn posted...

Not particularly, and if things happened it wasn't racially based. Like in third grade the desks in the classroom were all in groups of four, but there were two desks left over, and I happened to be paired there with a girl. So a bunch of the guys made fun of my ~*~*~girlfriend~*~*~ (this was third grade it was a pretty big diss) but it obviously had nothing to do with race.

you must have went to like an upper middle class school, mine's wasn't a great district

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As a white male, I have no idea. A black friend of mine had moved from Vancouver to Calgary though, and she said that in Van she would experience racism towards her maybe about once a month. In Calgary it happens most every day. It definitely depends on where one lives.

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You'd be surprised. One idiot told me to my face that their company didn't hire me because I was a white male. (I never expected to be hired for that job anyway; I was asking for more than they were likely willing to give me. Still, don't believe for a second that racism against white people doesn't exist.)

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One time a black woman told me I "didn't look like the kind of guy who would like black girls"

I just thought it was funny

I'm one of the brown kids that follows seph around at night making him piss his pants, so I experience racism pretty regularly

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he keeps saying a "black neighborhood" as if they're all dangerous places

dudes a racist, end of story