Current Events > Macron scraps proposal to raise France's retirement age

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Antifar
01/12/20 2:14:10 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/11/world/europe/france-pension-protests.html

With tens of thousands of anti-government demonstrators once again coursing through the streets of Paris and other cities and clouds of tear gas and smashed store windows punctuating the urban landscape, the French government made a major concession on Saturday to unions protesting its pension reform plan.

It agreed to scrap, for now at least, a proposal to raise the full-benefits retirement age from 62 to 64. Unlike in the United States, the French government plays a huge role in the retirement plans of individuals in France, both as a source of funds and as overseer and guarantor of the pension system.

The raised age had infuriated moderate unions that the government of President Emmanuel Macron badly needs on its side. Mr. Macron has insisted the French need to work longer to strengthen a generous retirement system that is one of the worlds most generous but may be heading toward a $19 billion deficit.

On Saturday, with a crippling transport strike already in its sixth week, Mr. Macrons government backed down, announcing that it would withdraw the new age limit, and put off decisions on financing the system until it gets a report on the money problem between now and the end of April.

But the government did not entirely rule out the idea of reintroducing a new retirement age if funding solutions to the pensions deficit are not reached.

And the governments concession is unlikely to end either the strike or the demonstrations. The more militant unions and the ones most heavily represented in the railways and the Paris subway are demanding that Mr. Macron abandon his entire reform plan.

The demand in the streets Saturday was for precisely that. The mood was militant, and the more violent demonstrators once again clashed with the police, even as they sowed a trail of damage through eastern Paris. A bank branch was sacked, and bus shelters smashed and fires set. Unions said 150,000 protesters were in the streets of Paris on Saturday.

Weve got to continue to mobilize, until they pull the whole plan, pure and simple, Eric Coquerel, a representative in Parliament and a leading voice in the far-left France Unbowed party, told French television Saturday afternoon, as police sirens blared in the background

Mr. Macrons prime minister, Edouard Philippe, announced the concession.

The moderate French Democratic Confederation of Labor, or CFDT, which has long been calling for the withdrawal of the new retirement age, welcomed the governments move on Saturday, which it said had shown the governments willingness to compromise.

The far-right leader, Marine Le Pen, called the governments move a dishonest negotiating tactic.

You introduce something thats unacceptable, and then you withdraw it, she told French media. Like other opposition figures, Ms. Le Pen has been demanding the government withdraw its whole plan. Nothing justifies this reform, she said.

Mr. Macron has insisted that his retirement plan represents a fair, rational response to the new world of work, where careers are interrupted and French citizens no longer stay in the same job for life.

The plan would replace the current system of 42 different pension regimes, most tailored to match individual professions, with a single, points-based system that will be the same for everybody. Workers would accumulate points, then cash them in at the end. Bus drivers in Toulouse would get the same retirement benefits as those in Paris not now the case, as the Paris system has some of the countrys most generous benefits.

Now, workers in the private and public sector get pension benefits based on the salaries of their best working years. That system would end.

The French, though, are uneasy with Mr. Macrons proposals. Although polls show they support some form of universal pension plan, they are also deeply attached to a system which has achieved among the lowest old-age poverty rates in the world.

Faced with weeks of strikes and mass demonstrations that have ripped into the economy, Mr. Macrons government has been forced to carve out a series of concessions to individual professions in recent days the police, dancers at the Paris Opera, nurses, airline flight attendants, pilots moving back toward precisely the same type of tailored retirement structure his reform sought to end.

On Saturday crowds of strikers, unionists and hard-core demonstrators began gathering early, with the sprawling Place de la Nation in eastern Paris packed by early afternoon. Revolutionary hymns from Latin America blared over the loudspeakers, as did rap mocking Mr. Macron.

Philippe Martinez, leader of the hard-line General Confederation of Workers, or CGT, which is calling for scrapping the whole reform, said in a brief interview before the start of the march that the government has had its back up against the wall for some time. But it is obstinately refusing to listen to the opinions of the majority of French.

Later, Mr. Martinez, at the head of the march, told reporters the issue of the new age limit is a red herring. The solution to the pensions-funding problem was simple, he insisted: raise salaries.


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Broseph_Stalin
01/12/20 2:17:43 PM
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not good
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Kaiganeer
01/12/20 2:18:31 PM
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Antifar posted...
The solution to the pensions-funding problem was simple, he insisted: raise salaries.
"we want the pensions to remain the same and we're not interested in paying for them. also, give us more money"
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Bio1590
01/12/20 2:18:52 PM
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It's 62? Holy shit lol
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DeadBankerDream
01/12/20 2:20:29 PM
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Kaiganeer posted...

"we want the pensions to remain the same and we're not interested in paying for them. also, give us more money"

...Do you not understand how pension funding works?
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King_Hutton
01/12/20 2:20:43 PM
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I love how French citizens dont give a fuck what the extreme moderate banker wants.

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Malfunction
01/12/20 2:23:10 PM
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Good stuff
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Broseph_Stalin
01/12/20 2:34:58 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
I love how French citizens dont give a fuck what the extreme moderate banker wants.

when your constant labor strikes have totally paralyzed your economy to the point where you have lower wages than nations that don't go on strike but it's ok because you're owning the bankers
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kingdrake2
01/12/20 2:36:47 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
It's 62? Holy shit lol


in the US it's 67 to get full social security benefit.
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King_Hutton
01/12/20 2:37:21 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
when your constant labor strikes have totally paralyzed your economy to the point where you have lower wages than nations that don't go on strike but it's ok because you're owning the bankers
Yeah! You know whats best for the French workers!

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Broseph_Stalin
01/12/20 2:39:08 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
Yeah! You know whats best for the French workers!

making less money to own the libs
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Malfunction
01/12/20 2:39:41 PM
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ElatedVenusaur
01/12/20 2:41:49 PM
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Good. We should be so fortunate.
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Broseph_Stalin
01/12/20 2:43:42 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Good. We should be so fortunate.

If you want lower wages and higher unemployment then move there.
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King_Hutton
01/12/20 2:46:07 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
making less money to own the libs
I mean, you want worse healthcare to own the progressives, right?

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Broseph_Stalin
01/12/20 2:47:07 PM
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King_Hutton posted...
I mean, you want worse healthcare
nope
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King_Hutton
01/12/20 2:54:41 PM
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Riiiiight


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Cornmuffins
01/12/20 3:03:59 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
good

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Questionmarktarius
01/12/20 3:07:54 PM
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I'd suggest that France would be the next austerity crisis, but they've already been doing that for about 200 years.
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