Current Events > Joe Rogan: Circumcisions Are Unnecessary And They Kill Hundreds of Babies a Year

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theres a benefit to driving cars though

UnfairRepresent posted...

Cars have a pragmatic purpose

Child circumcision does not. Its cosmetic

if you at 18 want to drive a car or cut your dick, go ahead

just leave babies alone

But its the parents choice and has a 99% success rate.

Thats fine you think that but thats just your opinion, which literally affects nothing.

I think no one should own a gun. My opinion and no one cares about my opinion and it affects little.


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Lairen posted...

But its the parents choice

it shouldn't be

this akin to "well its legal" being a slavery justification

Or supporting racial segregation, women not voting, gays not marrying

Lairen posted...

Thats fine you think that but thats just your opinion, which literally affects nothing.

it goes beyond opinion when you literally are mutilating babies

Lairen posted...

I think no one should own a gun. My opinion and no one cares about my opinion and it affects little.

1. that's irrelevant
2. you absolutely should share your opinion

by your logic if it was legal for parents to shoot babies in the face it would be wrong to oppose it and just a matter of opinion

this isnt "do apples taste nicer than oranges?"

this us permanent irreversible disfigurement of genitals on babies for cosmetic purposes .

the only reason why it continues is because no one challenges it and you're bending over backwards to silence them
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UnfairRepresent posted...

that's irrelevant

Exactly, this whole stupid fucking topic! You get it. All the dumb shit youve posted and this entire topic!

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Lairen posted...

Exactly, your whole stupid fucking topic! You get it. All the dumb shit youve posted and youre entire topic!

I didnt make the topic
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I didnt make the topic

I edited, ill credit you with not making the topic.

Funny you didnt defend the rest though. Lol.

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when I look at the most recent page of replies, all I see is this:


This thread must be an absolute car crash.

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MrMallard posted...

when I look at the most recent page of replies, all I see is this:


This thread must be an absolute car crash.

same here

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Lairen posted...

I edited, ill credit you with not making the topic.

Funny you didnt defend the rest though. Lol.

Your non point is meaningless to the point of response

"no babies die"
"yes they do"
"well other people die who cares "
"sane people, we should leave kids dicks alone"
" well it's not illegal yet"
"okay? but it should be and we should oppose it"
"nah nothing in history has ever changed and it's wrong to have opinions or oppose things "

Not only do you switch horses every 4 seconds, theres nothing even to dispute here

by your logic as I said opposing slavery was pointless, civil rights movement was pointless, Gay rights was pointless

if killing of babies was legalized opposing it would be pointless

your stance makes no sense. Hell by trying to talk people out of opposing immorality you're already conceding that its can be successful to do so
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MrMallard posted...

absolute car crash.

Which kill many many many times more daily than circumcission does in a year.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Your non point is meaningless to the point of response

"no babies die"
"yes they do"
"well other people die who cares "
"sane people, we should leave kids dicks alone"
" well it's not illegal yet"
"okay? but it should be and we should oppose it"
"nah nothing in history has ever changed and it's wrong to have opinions or oppose things "

Not only do you switch horses every 4 seconds, theres nothing even to dispute here

by your logic as I said opposing slavery was pointless, civil rights movement was pointless, Gay rights was pointless

if killing of babies was legalized opposing it would be pointless

your stance makes no sense. Hell by trying to talk people out of opposing immorality you're already conceding that its can be successful to do so

You have an opinion. It changes literally nothing. Ok. You think something shouldnt be the way it is.

I think plenty of things shouldnt be the way they are.

Here we are on a message board doing nothing about either.....

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Lairen posted...

You have an opinion. It changes literally nothing. Ok. You think something shouldnt be the way it is.

I think plenty of things shouldnt be the way they are.

Here we are on a message board doing nothing about either.....

this is a non argument on so many levels

1. you're not making any points

2. "well the people you're talking too aren't good enough " makes no sense. Changing minds is how things change and that can grow anywhere

3. talking on a message board (orvanywhere else for that matter) doesn't mean you dont talk about subjects elsewhere.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

this is a non argument on so many levels

1. you're not making any points

2. "well the people you're talking too aren't good enough " makes no sense. Changing minds is how things change and that can grow anywhere

3. talking on a message board (orvanywhere else for that matter) doesn't mean you dont talk about subjects elsewhere.

-Majority of males in US are circumcized.
-99% success rate
-Culturally seen as a good cosmetic procedure that most prefer.

You wont, and havnt, changed any of that, in the least.

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Lairen posted...

-Majority of males in US are circumcized.
-99% success rate
-Culturally seen as a good cosmetic procedure that most prefer.

You wont, and havnt, changed any of that, in the least.

See you've already disproven yourself

"Look lots of people have been convinced of this. Therefore you cant convince anyone "

Things are changing. People are talking about it more, more patents are waiting. more are looking into the facts

Going "well it hasn't changed yet so shut up" once again would be the same logic as opposing equal rights for gays in 1980

"The mob right now thinks this and law dictates it so theres no point in giving us facts and caring about babies " is some of the worst logic I've heard in 2020
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UnfairRepresent posted...

See you've already disproven yourself

"Look lots of people have been convinced of this. Therefore you cant convince anyone "

Things are changing. People are talking about it more, more patents are waiting. more are looking into the facts

Going "well it hasn't changed yet so shut up" once again would be the same logic as opposing equal rights for gays in 1980

"The mob right now thinks this and law dictates it so theres no point in giving us facts and caring about babies " is some of the worst logic I've heard in 2020

Yes, argue against whats legal, popular and safe in the US.

Its very unfortunate for those 100 babies but its 99% success rate is still safe.

You have literally no chance at even influencing this to change.

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Wait, did someone in here compare circumcision to slavery?

yikes

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Wait, did someone in here compare circumcision to slavery?

yikes

Multiple times......its a bad take.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Wait, did someone in here compare circumcision to slavery?

yikes

Nope.

The logic was "its wrong to oppose or discuss anything that is currently legal" would justify among other things slavery and gay inequality once upon a time

but lying seems to be the only argument the pro child circumcision camp seems to have
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Nope.

The logic was "its wrong to oppose or discuss anything that is currently legal" would justify among other things slavery and gay inequality once upon a time

but lying seems to be the only argument the pro child circumcision camp seems to have

You constantly ignore all the many many points for circumcission.

Youre done, son.

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Lairen posted...

You constantly ignore all the many many points for circumcission.

Youre done, son.

I haven't ignored anything

Literally the only arguments you've posted are lies that were instantly debunked such as no babies dying turning into not caring that babies die or "well its legal currently and people are going to do it so dont oppose it!" which is a non argument
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I haven't ignored anything

Literally the only arguments you've posted are lies that were instantly debunked such as no babies dying turning into not caring that babies die or "well its legal currently and people are going to do it so dont oppose it!" which is a non argument

Ignored. As much people are ignoring you. Go figure. But i like a good shit show and your responses are funny, so continue.

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And you cant point out what I ignored.

Says it all

Cosmetic procedure
Permanent irreversible mutilation of the genitals
Baby didnt consent to it
No reason not to wait to adulthood

these points are ironclad and the entire pro child circumcision camp can do nothing but ignore them, lie and obfuscate with shit like "well we drive cars, make kids wat veggies and it's legal. " which is no retort to those points
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Hey unfair, why are you so worried about other peoples junk?

If you have a boy dont get him cut and go on with your life. If someone wants to get their son clipped then go on with your life.

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It's really weird how so many of us are okay with circumcision.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Hey unfair, why are you so worried about other peoples junk?

If you have a boy dont get him cut and go on with your life. If someone wants to get their son clipped then go on with your life.

What about what the son wants?

I mean, the topics dying down as you repeat the same points and ignore others. Parents make decisions for their babies cause yeah, they cant make them and youve mutilated the term "mutilate" so thats not even effective anymore.

So what about ear peircings? Are they brutal stabbings that mutilate a babies ear?

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Hey unfair, why are you so worried about other peoples junk?

I'm gonna go cut up babies dicks"
"please dont do that "
"OMG WHY ARS YOU AOOOO OBSEDDED SIRH DICKS!!"

is the worst argument ever.

No one is obsessed with tattooing "SPIDER" on your face but if millions were doing it to babies i would oppose it too

I care because you're doing it to babies

More obfuscation

If you have a boy dont get him cut and go on with your life. If someone wants to get their son clipped then go on with your life.

Cosmetic procedure
Permanent irreversible mutilation of the genitals
Baby didnt consent to it
No reason not to wait to adulthood

No I'm going to oppose people mutilating babies genitals because they cosmetically like the way the infants dick looks

you should too. that's morally wrong

The logic of "it doesn't effect you so dont care about other people" is being a sociopath. I refuse to adhere to it

if a parent was cutting off a kids nose tip or tattooing them I would oppose that too.

it's not okay just because it's their baby.
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Lairen posted...

I mean, the topics dying down as you repeat the same points and ignore others. Parents make decisions for their babies cause yeah, they cant make them and youve mutilated the term "mutilate" so thats not even effective anymore.

So what about ear peircings? Are they brutal stabbings that mutilate a babies ear?

...do parents get their infant's ears pierced?

Is that a thing?

I mean, I guess it's not like it would be worse than taking a knife to their penis, but it would still be pretty odd.

Hey, unfair, could you ignore some more posts and repeat the same shit over and over? Thanks!

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Dragonblade01 posted...

...do parents get their infant's ears pierced?

Is that a thing?

I mean, I guess it's not like it would be worse than taking a knife to their penis, but it would still be pretty odd.

They take a spear and mutilate the babies ear. 100s die from it every year.

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Lairen posted...

They take a spear and mutilate the babies ear. 100s die from it every year.

Sounds pretty bad.

People probably shouldn't do that either.

Dragonblade01 posted...

...do parents get their infant's ears pierced?

Is that a thing?

I mean, I guess it's not like it would be worse than taking a knife to their penis, but it would still be pretty odd.

Yes, my sister's ears were pierced when she was an infant

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God, is Unfair posting multiple times in a row? Double-posting with no justification for it should be moddable under disruptive posting, I know a place where that's the case even.

Like shit dude, wait for someone else to post instead of making 4+ posts in a row. Have a basic sense of netiquette, dude. Unless he's conversing with another person on my ignore list, in which case whatever - I have them on ignore for a reason.

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MrMallard posted...

God, is Unfair posting multiple times in a row? Double-posting with no justification for it should be moddable under disruptive posting, I know a place where that's the case even.

Like shit dude, wait for someone else to post instead of making 4+ posts in a row. Have a basic sense of netiquette, dude. Unless he's conversing with another person on my ignore list, in which case whatever - I have them on ignore for a reason.

Lol. Best topic ever.

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I think it's a bizarre and unnecessary act for sure, especially doing it to babies.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

I'm gonna go cut up babies dicks"
"please dont do that "
"OMG WHY ARS YOU AOOOO OBSEDDED SIRH DICKS!!"

is the worst argument ever.

No one is obsessed with tattooing "SPIDER" on your face but if millions were doing it to babies i would oppose it too

I care because you're doing it to babies

its okay, you can calm down

I'm plenty happy my parents did it to me and for the life of me I cant remember that pain. Ive been trying to remember the pain since I was like 5 days old and I just cant. Such horrific pain should still be in my mind.

If my son ever tells me he wishes we hadnt for him, Id sincerely apologize and Id feel bad but I dont ever think that will be an issue.

we need a poll to go with these opinions....the people saying it shouldnt be done, is yours done and do you have a son or see yourself having kids in the future. Im betting the poll results would say a lot.


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So can parents perform whatever body modification they want on their child? Or just circumcision? Tattoos? Implants? Skin lightening/darkening? Binding?

I'll remember "parents can do what they want" the next time CE is screaming child abuse because a boy was allowed to wear a dress or puberty blockers were used in a potential trans kid.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I'm plenty happy my parents did it to me and for the life of me I cant remember that pain. Ive been trying to remember the pain since I was like 5 days old and I just cant. Such horrific pain should still be in my mind.

If my son ever tells me he wishes we hadnt for him, Id sincerely apologize and Id feel bad but I dont ever think that will be an issue.

we need a poll to go with these opinions....the people saying it shouldnt be done, is yours done and do you have a son or see yourself having kids in the future. Im betting the poll results would say a lot.

I'm circumcised. I am not happy my parents did it to me. If I had been given the choice, I wouldn't have consented. It's not something you can just shrug off with a "sorry." If I have a son, I will not have him circumcised as an infant. That should be his choice to make about his own body.
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UR still having his melty I see.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I'm plenty happy my parents did it to me

Why tho?

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Because in my mind its a lot better looking and from previous relationships it worked out better that I was cut.

And I get the cleaning is easy and not that bad and whatever else people want to say, but it all just seems like such a hassle.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Because in my mind its a lot better looking and from previous relationships it worked out better that I was cut.

And I get the cleaning is easy and not that bad and whatever else people want to say, but it all just seems like such a hassle.

A hassle to shoot water at your ding dong?

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This has devolved to one side saying "i gUeSs pArEnTs cAn dO aNyThInG tO bAbIeS"

Lol. I guess its better than when they compared it to slavery.

But yes, parents can legally do this. You can disagree if its right but it doesnt matter.

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Lairen posted...

But yes, parents can legally do this. You can disagree if its right but it doesnt matter.

Disagreement can lead to the law being changed. And the law should be changed.
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TheOnionKnight posted...

Disagreement can lead to the law being changed. And the law should be changed.

But youre trolling on a message board about it so. You are doing nothing. My side was already correct and won before anyone trolled on here about it. I dont have to say anything and i win. But its fun so.....

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Lairen posted...

But youre trolling on a message board about it so. You are doing nothing. My side was already correct and won before anyone trolled on here about it. I dont have to say anything and i win. But its fun so.....

We'd still be operating in the dark ages if there was such a thing as permanently winning at laws.

People have been making dumb "it's da law" arguments for thousands of years when they don't want things to change and don't have a good argument beyond "that's how it's always been".

If parents can ever cosmetically permanently modify their children, then they should always be allowed to do it. Either they can always or never. Either children are blank canvas objects of possession or they are persons with bodily autonomy who should only be operated on when medically necessary. There is no logic to picking and choosing in this instance.

There is no logic to infant circumcision at all.

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hockeybub89 posted...

We'd still be operating in the dark ages if there was such a thing as permanently winning at laws.

People have been making dumb "it's da law" arguments for thousands of years when they don't want things to change and don't have a good argument beyond "that's how it's always been".

If parents can ever cosmetically permanently modify their children, then they should always be allowed to do it. Either they can always or never. Either children are blank canvas objects of possession or they are persons with bodily autonomy who should only be operated on when medically necessary. There is no logic to picking and choosing in this instance.

There is no logic to infant circumcision at all.

So youre on to me? I plan to inject all my children with the Tyrant virus. Its quite a ways a way so i had to start with baby penis mutilation. But seeing as i was able yo get this law passed, my army of biological baby tyrants is all but inevitable!

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Lairen posted...

So youre on to me? I plan to inject all my children with the Tyrant virus. Its quite a ways a way so i had to start with baby penis mutilation. But seeing as i was able yo get this law passed, my army of biological baby tyrants is all but inevitable!

Their passion is a bit disingenuous

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Lairen posted...

Literally millions, like 2 million male babies are born each year in the US. And youre saying that a highly disputed claim of 119 babies are dying from circumcision...

Get a hobby.

This. Obviously you guys need to stop caring about the well-being of children and start doing real grown up shit like building model trains or collecting trading cards.

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TheAnthraxBunny posted...

This. Obviously you guys need to stop caring about the well-being of children and start doing real grown up shit like building model trains or collecting trading cards.

When it comes to circumcision yes, there are much more worthwhile fights out there

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