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Antifar 01/25/20 1:18:17 PM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/25/inside-the-base-neo-nazi-terror-group The Base, a US-based white supremacist social network that has recently been targeted by the FBI in raids leading to the arrest of several members, was active, growing and continuing to prepare for large-scale violence. The Guardian has obtained chat records, audio recordings and videos provided by an anti-fascist whistleblower who spent more than a year charting the inside workings of the Base. The Guardian studied leaked materials relayed by the whistleblower and pursued other lines of inquiry to exclusively reveal the real identity of the Bases secretive leader as Rinaldo Nazzaro, 46, from New Jersey. Nazzaro is currently living in Russia with his Russian wife. Until the Guardians expos little was known about his background and he was only known by the alias Norman Spear. The exclusive materials show how the group has planned terror campaigns; vandalized synagogues; organised armed training camps; and recruited new members who extolled an ideology of all-out race war. The cache of documents and recordings gives a rare insight into how such neo-Nazi terror groups operate. The Base an approximate English translation of al-Qaida began recruiting in late 2018 and pushing for both the collapse of society and a race war. Members of the group stand accused of federal hate crimes, murder plots and firearms offenses, and have harbored international fugitives in recent months. It was the very real threat of violence that convinced the whistleblower to infiltrate the Base and stay undercover for months, gaining the trust of other members, only to later contact the Guardian to expose them. The Guardians source said that in recent months the pieces were coming together to build the infrastructure for a strong, neo-Nazi militant underground, with places to train, to make connections and expand the network. He felt he had to act to stop it. The source said: The Norman Spear I spoke with told me in no uncertain terms that the purpose of the Base is to cause the collapse of our society, not survive it. The Guardians source, an anti-Nazi activist, rose to a position of trust within the group, which allowed him to take thousands of screenshots in chatrooms used by the Base since 2018. In November 2018, those chats were infiltrated by antifa activists, and members were outed, or doxxed, amid early media reporting. At this point, the Base tightened up vetting processes and moved their chats to an encrypted platform called Wire. Under the motto there is no political solution the group embraces an accelerationist ideology, which holds that acts of violence and terror are required to push liberal democracy towards collapse, preparing the way for white supremacists to seize power and establish an ethno-state. Members remained defiant following the arrest of seven alleged members of the group in mid-January, calling it an unjust political witch-hunt from the liberal globalist system. Nazzaro urged members to double down and commit to a decades-long insurgency, conceding they were at least 20 years away from a full-fledged civil unrest scenario. The US has seen a significant rise of white supremacist violent crimes in recent years. Mass shooters have deliberately cited their neo-Nazi beliefs as motivation for attacks which killed dozens of people in El Paso, San Diego, Christchurch and more. Some members of the Base were also involved with the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, whose members have been involved in several murders. Included in the materials obtained by the Guardian is a record of members signaling their intention to commit hate crimes and terrorize their victims. One such involved Richard Tobin, 18, whose handle inside the Base was landser. He claimed to also be a member of Atomwaffen Division. Tobin is currently in federal custody, awaiting trial for an alleged conspiracy he organized inside the Bases chatrooms. Writing on 15 September last year in the Bases chatroom Tobin wrote: Our whole purpose is gradual escalation and weve done absolutely fucking NOTHING. Its time to stop fucking around and get serious. Between September 20-25 I want everyone who isnt in a wheelchair to get out and act. Flyers, windows, and tires. Lets take back our image of strength and cohesion. Tobin set out tactics for the vandalism, including instructions to wear gloves, cover your faces at all times, shoe covers if you can manage it. The Bases founder Nazzaro, AKA Norman Spear, advised: No point in random vandalizing Much more effective if its targeted. Tobin responded: Yes, obviously. Focus on broad anti-white elements for now, though. [N-word] cars, jew businesses etc. He then offered a different idea: Kristallnacht, after the Nazis mass vandalism of Jewish homes and businesses and the torching of synagogues in 1938. On 21 September last year, a synagogue in Hancock, Michigan, was daubed with swastikas and SS symbols. The following day, a synagogue in Racine, Wisconsin, was defaced with an antisemitic slogan and the Bases runic insignia. Tobin was charged on 12 November with orchestrating both of these incidents, and another Base member, Yousef Barasneh, was charged last week with vandalizing the Racine synagogue. Federal prosecutors allege that they coordinated this in a private chat. Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager. None of his former comrades had made the journey to the gloomy courtroom in downtown Camden, but he was attended by an older female relative dragging an oxygen canister behind her, several prosecutors, and one man identified as an FBI agent. After the court heard about his fantasies of violence including suicide by cop and machete attacks and how a mental health crisis and infighting in Atomwaffen Division and the Base had driven him to talk to special agents, he was refused bail. His profile seems to be typical: new recruits are disproportionately younger men. The official age limit is 18 but this is frequently relaxed, and several members are 17. Many are in their late teens and early 20s. The bias towards youth is reflected in the ages of several of those arrested in raids on Base members, which range between 18 and 25. All Base prospects must participate in a group voice call in which they are led through a standardized list of questions. These include the reasons people have for join <cite>Antifar posted [p:933464900] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/25/inside-the-base-neo-nazi-terror-group <quote>The Base, a US-based white supremacist social network that has recently been targeted by the FBI in raids leading to the arrest of several members, was active, growing and continuing to prepare for large-scale violence. The Guardian has obtained chat records, audio recordings and videos provided by an anti-fascist whistleblower who spent more than a year charting the inside workings of the Base. The Guardian studied leaked materials relayed by the whistleblower and pursued other lines of inquiry to exclusively reveal the real identity of the Bases secretive leader as Rinaldo Nazzaro, 46, from New Jersey. Nazzaro is currently living in Russia with his Russian wife. Until the Guardians expos little was known about his background and he was only known by the alias Norman Spear. The exclusive materials show how the group has planned terror campaigns; vandalized synagogues; organised armed training camps; and recruited new members who extolled an ideology of all-out race war. The cache of documents and recordings gives a rare insight into how such neo-Nazi terror groups operate. The Base an approximate English translation of al-Qaida began recruiting in late 2018 and pushing for both the collapse of society and a race war. Members of the group stand accused of federal hate crimes, murder plots and firearms offenses, and have harbored international fugitives in recent months. It was the very real threat of violence that convinced the whistleblower to infiltrate the Base and stay undercover for months, gaining the trust of other members, only to later contact the Guardian to expose them. The Guardians source said that in recent months the pieces were coming together to build the infrastructure for a strong, neo-Nazi militant underground, with places to train, to make connections and expand the network. He felt he had to act to stop it. The source said: The Norman Spear I spoke with told me in no uncertain terms that the purpose of the Base is to cause the collapse of our society, not survive it. The Guardians source, an anti-Nazi activist, rose to a position of trust within the group, which allowed him to take thousands of screenshots in chatrooms used by the Base since 2018. In November 2018, those chats were infiltrated by antifa activists, and members were outed, or doxxed, amid early media reporting. At this point, the Base tightened up vetting processes and moved their chats to an encrypted platform called Wire. Under the motto there is no political solution the group embraces an accelerationist ideology, which holds that acts of violence and terror are required to push liberal democracy towards collapse, preparing the way for white supremacists to seize power and establish an ethno-state. Members remained defiant following the arrest of seven alleged members of the group in mid-January, calling it an unjust political witch-hunt from the liberal globalist system. Nazzaro urged members to double down and commit to a decades-long insurgency, conceding they were at least 20 years away from a full-fledged civil unrest scenario. The US has seen a significant rise of white supremacist violent crimes in recent years. Mass shooters have deliberately cited their neo-Nazi beliefs as motivation for attacks which killed dozens of people in El Paso, San Diego, Christchurch and more. Some members of the Base were also involved with the neo-Nazi group Atomwaffen Division, whose members have been involved in several murders. Included in the materials obtained by the Guardian is a record of members signaling their intention to commit hate crimes and terrorize their victims. One such involved Richard Tobin, 18, whose handle inside the Base was landser. He claimed to also be a member of Atomwaffen Division. Tobin is currently in federal custody, awaiting trial for an alleged conspiracy he organized inside the Bases chatrooms. Writing on 15 September last year in the Bases chatroom Tobin wrote: Our whole purpose is gradual escalation and weve done absolutely fucking NOTHING. Its time to stop fucking around and get serious. Between September 20-25 I want everyone who isnt in a wheelchair to get out and act. Flyers, windows, and tires. Lets take back our image of strength and cohesion. Tobin set out tactics for the vandalism, including instructions to wear gloves, cover your faces at all times, shoe covers if you can manage it. The Bases founder Nazzaro, AKA Norman Spear, advised: No point in random vandalizing Much more effective if its targeted. Tobin responded: Yes, obviously. Focus on broad anti-white elements for now, though. [N-word] cars, jew businesses etc. He then offered a different idea: Kristallnacht, after the Nazis mass vandalism of Jewish homes and businesses and the torching of synagogues in 1938. On 21 September last year, a synagogue in Hancock, Michigan, was daubed with swastikas and SS symbols. The following day, a synagogue in Racine, Wisconsin, was defaced with an antisemitic slogan and the Bases runic insignia. Tobin was charged on 12 November with orchestrating both of these incidents, and another Base member, Yousef Barasneh, was charged last week with vandalizing the Racine synagogue. Federal prosecutors allege that they coordinated this in a private chat. Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager. None of his former comrades had made the journey to the gloomy courtroom in downtown Camden, but he was attended by an older female relative dragging an oxygen canister behind her, several prosecutors, and one man identified as an FBI agent. After the court heard about his fantasies of violence including suicide by cop and machete attacks and how a mental health crisis and infighting in Atomwaffen Division and the Base had driven him to talk to special agents, he was refused bail. His profile seems to be typical: new recruits are disproportionately younger men. The official age limit is 18 but this is frequently relaxed, and several members are 17. Many are in their late teens and early 20s. The bias towards youth is reflected in the ages of several of those arrested in raids on Base members, which range between 18 and 25. All Base prospects must participate in a group voice call in which they are led through a standardized list of questions. These include the reasons people have for join</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/25/20 1:19:10 PM #2:	One part of the Bases ethos which is repeatedly emphasized is the necessity of meetups. Members are expected to get together frequently in order to familiarise themselves with, and learn to cooperate with, other local members. Action over words was Normans guiding light, the source who infiltrated the group told the Guardian. These meetings involve gunplay, combat drills, and photo and video shoots for propaganda purpose. One such gathering occurred between 30 October and 2 November in Silver Creek, Georgia. One image from the event shows six men standing, one holding a flag with the Bases runic logo, their faces covered with balaclavas or the distinctive skull masks that signify an affiliation with neo-Nazi Siege Culture. All are armed with military-style long guns. The man kneeling in the middle holds the severed head of an animal. After posting the photo, Nazzaro, writing as Roman Wolf (another of his aliases) writes: Photo from a very recent epic meetup Yes, thats a real goats head! According to a recorded conversation provided to the Guardian, the goat had been acquired from a local farmer, christened Gar, and was dismembered and eaten by Base members in an improvised pagan ritual. Many neo-Nazis adhere to forms of pagan religion, some citing the Jewish origins of Christianity. Several members then expressed the wish that their cells were large enough for such a meeting. One user, jagRolig, posted: Waiting on the next European meetup. Nazzaro replied: Currently working on finding a suitable meetup location for that Ill keep you posted. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:933464935] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote><quote>One part of the Bases ethos which is repeatedly emphasized is the necessity of meetups. Members are expected to get together frequently in order to familiarise themselves with, and learn to cooperate with, other local members. Action over words was Normans guiding light, the source who infiltrated the group told the Guardian. These meetings involve gunplay, combat drills, and photo and video shoots for propaganda purpose. One such gathering occurred between 30 October and 2 November in Silver Creek, Georgia. One image from the event shows six men standing, one holding a flag with the Bases runic logo, their faces covered with balaclavas or the distinctive skull masks that signify an affiliation with neo-Nazi Siege Culture. All are armed with military-style long guns. The man kneeling in the middle holds the severed head of an animal. After posting the photo, Nazzaro, writing as Roman Wolf (another of his aliases) writes: Photo from a very recent epic meetup Yes, thats a real goats head! According to a recorded conversation provided to the Guardian, the goat had been acquired from a local farmer, christened Gar, and was dismembered and eaten by Base members in an improvised pagan ritual. Many neo-Nazis adhere to forms of pagan religion, some citing the Jewish origins of Christianity. Several members then expressed the wish that their cells were large enough for such a meeting. One user, jagRolig, posted: Waiting on the next European meetup. Nazzaro replied: Currently working on finding a suitable meetup location for that Ill keep you posted.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 01/25/20 1:19:42 PM #3:	Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:933464952] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 01/25/20 1:23:53 PM #5:	I'm sure they're very fine people. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:933465104] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure they're very fine people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/25/20 1:26:15 PM #6:	Evening_Dragon posted... Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? We have a few very open neo-Nazis that the administration refuses to deal with so its possible --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:933465186] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>Odds of having one of these guys here on CE?</quote>We have a few very open neo-Nazis that the administration refuses to deal with so its possible </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/25/20 1:28:35 PM #7:	Somehow this al-Qaeda is not considered a terrorist group. Everyone knows white people can't be terrorists unless they convert to Islam --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:933465275] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Somehow this al-Qaeda is not considered a terrorist group. Everyone knows white people can't be terrorists unless they convert to Islam </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 1:28:41 PM #8:	Evening_Dragon posted... Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? I'd guess somewhere around 185%, give or take alts. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933465281] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>Odds of having one of these guys here on CE?</quote>I'd guess somewhere around 185%, give or take alts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 01/25/20 1:29:42 PM #9:	Remember that when people want to make laws declaring Antifa a terrorist group, THIS is why. Not the 'violence' or 'blocking ambulances' or 'poorly thought out bullying of Sargon of Akkad'. Its the fact that they are opposed to fascism itself, and may actually air some people's dirty laundry. --- Everyone gangsta until country roads starts playing. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:933465324] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Remember that when people want to make laws declaring Antifa a terrorist group, THIS is why. Not the 'violence' or 'blocking ambulances' or 'poorly thought out bullying of Sargon of Akkad'. Its the fact that they are opposed to fascism itself, and may actually air some people's dirty laundry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmidgeIsntBack 01/25/20 1:29:47 PM #10:	Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy. --- Podcast/Audiobook Board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- View my ASCII art and others' at https://thenewhotness.info/ <cite>SmidgeIsntBack posted [p:933465327] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 01/25/20 1:30:23 PM #11:	Score another one for antifa --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:933465344] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Score another one for antifa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 1:33:20 PM #12:	Intro2Logic posted... Score another one for antifa Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933465443] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>Score another one for antifa</quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 01/25/20 1:34:09 PM #13:	Antifar posted... targeted by the FBI glad to see the feds are taking this seriously despite president bone spur's insults --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:933465473] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>targeted by the FBI </quote> glad to see the feds are taking this seriously despite president bone spur's insults</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/25/20 1:34:33 PM #14:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. Dumbfuck take --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:933465490] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote>Dumbfuck take </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 01/25/20 1:38:44 PM #15:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:933465661] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote>Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 01/25/20 1:42:03 PM #16:	hockeybub89 posted... Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups. I believe the user you're talking to is a "skeptic" of the Holocaust, so it's understandable they're trying to whatabout here. --- This is a mobile account, forgive any errors. ~DYL~ 12-18-19: Donald Trump has been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:933465792] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups.</quote> I believe the user you're talking to is a "skeptic" of the Holocaust, so it's understandable they're trying to whatabout here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 01/25/20 1:42:43 PM #17:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. You're so full of shit, and you think no one can see it. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:933465825] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote> You're so full of shit, and you think no one can see it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 1:43:18 PM #18:	Umbreon posted... I believe the user you're talking to is a "skeptic" of the Holocaust, so it's understandable they're trying to whatabout here. "Whatabout the Romani, cripples, and homosexuals?" sort of "skeptic", yes. We've been over this before. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933465847] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite> <quote>I believe the user you're talking to is a "skeptic" of the Holocaust, so it's understandable they're trying to whatabout here.</quote>"Whatabout the Romani, cripples, and homosexuals?" sort of "skeptic", yes. We've been over this before. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 01/25/20 1:43:45 PM #19:	SmidgeIsntBack posted... Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy. ikr Take away their guns immediately. Funding law enforcement is good, but we also need sweeping, drastic regulation to start us on the path of serious, responsible gun control. Enough is enough of listening to the gun nuts, this issue is as important now as the economy or the environment. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:933465866] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>SmidgeIsntBack posted... </cite> <quote>Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy.</quote> ikr Take away their guns immediately. Funding law enforcement is good, but we also need sweeping, drastic regulation to start us on the path of serious, responsible gun control. Enough is enough of listening to the gun nuts, this issue is as important now as the economy or the environment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger 01/25/20 1:45:33 PM #20:	SmidgeIsntBack posted... Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy. those were the softest-bitch talking points spewed out by the right. it was really disgusting saw it on CE a lot --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html <cite>spudger posted [p:933465921] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>SmidgeIsntBack posted...</cite> <quote>Remember, these people can only be defeated through patient debate and empathy. </quote> those were the softest-bitch talking points spewed out by the right. it was really disgusting saw it on CE a lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 01/25/20 1:45:55 PM #21:	Evening_Dragon posted... Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? 100% <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:933465937] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Evening_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Odds of having one of these guys here on CE? </quote> 100%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 01/25/20 1:46:52 PM #22:	Questionmarktarius posted... "Whatabout the Romani, cripples, and homosexuals?" sort of "skeptic", yes. We've been over this before. I'm curious what you mean by this --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:933465973] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>"Whatabout the Romani, cripples, and homosexuals?" sort of "skeptic", yes. We've been over this before.</quote>I'm curious what you mean by this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 01/25/20 1:47:40 PM #23:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. Personally, I think we should definitely be accelerating towards recognizing fascism as a legitimate threat and girding ourselves against it, to the extent that I would say it is ideal to do so. That's probably not the acceleration-ism you're talking about, but the one you're thinking of doesn't actually apply, so. --- Everyone gangsta until country roads starts playing. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:933466000] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote>Personally, I think we should definitely be accelerating towards recognizing fascism as a legitimate threat and girding ourselves against it, to the extent that I would say it is ideal to do so. That's probably not the acceleration-ism you're talking about, but the one you're thinking of doesn't actually apply, so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 1:53:32 PM #24:	hockeybub89 posted... Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups. https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/ <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933466216] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Get back to me when Antifa is killing people, plotting murders, and not existing specifically as a check of neo-Nazis and other far right extremist groups.</quote> https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/25/20 1:54:57 PM #25:	boxington posted... I'm curious what you mean by this He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there. Questionmarktarius posted... https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/ Posting a right-wing TABLOID to prove your point lmao --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:933466261] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>boxington posted... </cite> <quote>I'm curious what you mean by this</quote>He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there. Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/</quote>Posting a right-wing TABLOID to prove your point lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 01/25/20 1:56:11 PM #26:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo#Confrontations_with_Antifa_activists Ngo's even more of a hack than you are. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:933466294] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo#Confrontations_with_Antifa_activists Ngo's even more of a hack than you are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 1:56:44 PM #27:	RebelElite791 posted... He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there. How it because "antisemitic" to bring up that the Nazis exterminated anyone considered impure or infirm will remain a mystery. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933466312] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... </cite> <quote>He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there.</quote>How it because "antisemitic" to bring up that the Nazis exterminated anyone considered impure or infirm will remain a mystery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 01/25/20 1:56:51 PM #28:	Questionmarktarius posted... https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/ This doesn't look like plotting murders to me --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:933466315] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>https://nypost.com/2019/07/17/liberals-cheer-as-antifa-violence-escalates/</quote>This doesn't look like plotting murders to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 01/25/20 2:03:32 PM #30:	i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such the organization's mode of operation is certainly consistent with that hypothesis --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:933466569] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such the organization's mode of operation is certainly consistent with that hypothesis </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 01/25/20 2:06:09 PM #31:	RebelElite791 posted... He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there. oh... Questionmarktarius posted... How it because "antisemitic" to bring up that the Nazis exterminated anyone considered impure or infirm will remain a mystery. idk if people tend to have that position; but if you're downplaying how much Jewish people were targeted, then that's a different story --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:933466666] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted... </cite> <quote>He thinks the Jewish victims get too much attention. Clearly no agenda there.</quote>oh... Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>How it because "antisemitic" to bring up that the Nazis exterminated anyone considered impure or infirm will remain a mystery.</quote>idk if people tend to have that position; but if you're downplaying how much Jewish people were targeted, then that's a different story </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 01/25/20 2:07:39 PM #32:	TheMikh posted... i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such the organization's mode of operation is certainly consistent with that hypothesis How's it different from other homeland extremist groups? Recruit online, gain trust, group up for training and bonding. --- "A guy talking into the camera about politics? My favorite." - Phantom_Nook Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:933466737] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted... </cite> <quote>i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such the organization's mode of operation is certainly consistent with that hypothesis</quote> How's it different from other homeland extremist groups? Recruit online, gain trust, group up for training and bonding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 2:07:39 PM #33:	boxington posted... but if you're downplaying how much Jewish people were targeted No. They were about a third of the deathcount, far more than any other single demographic the Nazis were murdering. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933466738] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>boxington posted... </cite> <quote>but if you're downplaying how much Jewish people were targeted</quote>No. They were about a third of the deathcount, far more than any other single demographic the Nazis were murdering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 01/25/20 2:09:06 PM #34:	TheMikh posted... i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such Yeah, there's definitely some of that in here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/23/revealed-the-true-identity-of-the-leader-of-americas-neo-nazi-terror-group The Bases leader previously operated under the aliases Norman Spear and Roman Wolf. Members of the network do not know his true identity due to the groups culture of internal secrecy. But the Guardian can reveal that Norman Spear is in fact US-born Rinaldo Nazzaro, 46, who has a long history of advertising his services as an intelligence, military and security contractor. He has claimed, under his alias, to have served in Russia and Afghanistan. ... Spear filmed a series of short instructional presentations on the tactics and strategy of guerrilla warfare. In an archive of those videos on the far-right site Bitchute, he is identified as Defense Studies expert and former CIA field intelligence officer Norman Spear. This detail, coupled with other leads, compelled many to speculate whether Norman Spear was, in fact, a federal agent operating inside the Base. ... Beginning in 2009 and until as late as 2019, Nazzaro billed himself as an intelligence expert working with various government and military agencies. Nazzaro is the principal of an LLC called Omega Solutions International (OSI), a company offering a range of intelligence and security contracting. Its website, which was removed from the Internet some time after August 2019, boasted of the firms experience conducting intelligence analysis for government agencies, military organizations, and private businesses, as well as access to a network of seasoned security professionals with expertise in counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, homeland security, hostage rescue/negotiations, psychological operations, and more. The firm also has a Cage Code, which is an administrative requirement for military and government contractors. Materials inspected and sources consulted by the Guardian indicate that Nazzaro, as Spear, has faced persistent suspicions from current and former members of the group that he is a fed, or the agent of a foreign government, or that the Base is a honeypot intended to lure neo-Nazis out into the open for the benefit of law enforcement agencies. Former members have cited this as a reason for leaving. ... The Guardian has discovered that all of the business addresses associated with Nazzaros OSI LLCs are virtual offices. This describes a situation where a second company provides a business address, and sometimes meeting rooms and greeting services, for businesses who do not wish to maintain their own premises. The addresses are often prestigious: OSIs virtual address locations include Fifth Avenue in Manhattan and K Street in Washington DC, an address associated with federal government contracting and lobbying. Meanwhile, Norman Spear appears to have had no extended history in the neo-Nazi movement before emerging as leader of the Base. According to an internally placed source, the only people within the movement who vouched for Spear were connected to the Northwest Front (NWF). The NWF founder, Harold Covington, was himself the subject of persistent rumors within the white nationalist movement that he was a federal informant, and that NWF was itself a honeypot a front organization routinely used by US law enforcement in order to entrap people. Norman Spear has told Base members that he remains in Russia. Law enforcement sources have indicated on background that Nazzaro is believed by some agencies to be working for the Russian government. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:933466800] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>i'd been under the impression that the base was a counterintelligence honeypot intended on smoking out and identifying nazi extremists, and that certain prominent members had ties to intelligence agencies or fronts for such </quote> Yeah, there's definitely some of that in here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/23/revealed-the-true-identity-of-the-leader-of-americas-neo-nazi-terror-group <quote>The Bases leader previously operated under the aliases Norman Spear and Roman Wolf. Members of the network do not know his true identity due to the groups culture of internal secrecy. But the Guardian can reveal that Norman Spear is in fact US-born Rinaldo Nazzaro, 46, who has a long history of advertising his services as an intelligence, military and security contractor. He has claimed, under his alias, to have served in Russia and Afghanistan. ... Spear filmed a series of short instructional presentations on the tactics and strategy of guerrilla warfare. In an archive of those videos on the far-right site Bitchute, he is identified as Defense Studies expert and former CIA field intelligence officer Norman Spear. This detail, coupled with other leads, compelled many to speculate whether Norman Spear was, in fact, a federal agent operating inside the Base. ... Beginning in 2009 and until as late as 2019, Nazzaro billed himself as an intelligence expert working with various government and military agencies. Nazzaro is the principal of an LLC called Omega Solutions International (OSI), a company offering a range of intelligence and security contracting. Its website, which was removed from the Internet some time after August 2019, boasted of the firms experience conducting intelligence analysis for government agencies, military organizations, and private businesses, as well as access to a network of seasoned security professionals with expertise in counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, homeland security, hostage rescue/negotiations, psychological operations, and more. The firm also has a Cage Code, which is an administrative requirement for military and government contractors. Materials inspected and sources consulted by the Guardian indicate that Nazzaro, as Spear, has faced persistent suspicions from current and former members of the group that he is a fed, or the agent of a foreign government, or that the Base is a honeypot intended to lure neo-Nazis out into the open for the benefit of law enforcement agencies. Former members have cited this as a reason for leaving. ... The Guardian has discovered that all of the business addresses associated with Nazzaros OSI LLCs are virtual offices. This describes a situation where a second company provides a business address, and sometimes meeting rooms and greeting services, for businesses who do not wish to maintain their own premises. The addresses are often prestigious: OSIs virtual address locations include Fifth Avenue in Manhattan and K Street in Washington DC, an address associated with federal government contracting and lobbying. Meanwhile, Norman Spear appears to have had no extended history in the neo-Nazi movement before emerging as leader of the Base. According to an internally placed source, the only people within the movement who vouched for Spear were connected to the Northwest Front (NWF). The NWF founder, Harold Covington, was himself the subject of persistent rumors within the white nationalist movement that he was a federal informant, and that NWF was itself a honeypot a front organization routinely used by US law enforcement in order to entrap people. Norman Spear has told Base members that he remains in Russia. Law enforcement sources have indicated on background that Nazzaro is believed by some agencies to be working for the Russian government.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 2:13:16 PM #35:	Antifar posted... Yeah, there's definitely some of that in here: A radical supremacist organization disguised as sting operation disguised as a radical supremacist organization disguised as a sting operation? This just seems like a bad comic book twist. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933466969] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, there's definitely some of that in here:</quote>A radical supremacist organization disguised as sting operation disguised as a radical supremacist organization disguised as a sting operation? This just seems like a bad comic book twist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cornmuffins 01/25/20 2:14:04 PM #36:	Shut up --- Getting C's and D's, saying thanks and please. You broke the golden rule, you're staying after school. <cite>Cornmuffins posted [p:933467004] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Shut up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 01/25/20 2:15:23 PM #37:	Cornmuffins posted... Shut up k. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:933467056] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Cornmuffins posted... </cite> <quote>Shut up</quote>k. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Firewerx 01/25/20 3:12:37 PM #39:	Antifar posted... Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager. I'm not really seeing a paradox there. --- Incinerate <cite>Firewerx posted [p:933469302] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager.</quote>I'm not really seeing a paradox there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 01/25/20 3:19:31 PM #40:	ScazarMeltex posted... Holy Fuck did some actually think that Andy Ngo wasn't a degenerate piece of shit who essentially fabricated all that stuff? All Republicans. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:933469550] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>Holy Fuck did some actually think that Andy Ngo wasn't a degenerate piece of shit who essentially fabricated all that stuff? </quote> All Republicans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 01/25/20 3:26:50 PM #41:	undefined posted... Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager. God theyre always edgy loser try hards. --- Yo wtf Probably lifting or running... <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:933469835] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>undefined posted... </cite> <quote>Although inside the group Tobin was vicious, militant and angry, a custody hearing attended by the Guardian in Camden, New Jersey, revealed the defendant as a pale, nervous, overweight teenager.</quote> God theyre always edgy loser try hards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 01/25/20 4:03:42 PM #42:	But wait... according to trump supporters, anti-facist groups are the real racists. This seems to actually suggest the opposite... --- #DisgustingDonald #LockTrumpUp <cite>Machete posted [p:933471208] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>But wait... according to trump supporters, anti-facist groups are the real racists. This seems to actually suggest the opposite...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 01/25/20 4:11:26 PM #43:	evil_zombie11 posted... God theyre always edgy loser try hards. All neo-Nazis and white supremacists are edgy loser try hards, regardless of weight, age, or disposition. Fuck them all. --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:933471490] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>evil_zombie11 posted... </cite> <quote>God theyre always edgy loser try hards.</quote>All neo-Nazis and white supremacists are edgy loser try hards, regardless of weight, age, or disposition. Fuck them all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 01/25/20 4:23:14 PM #44:	The large-scale paramilitary training is what concerns me the most about these groups. Because theyre not doing it to protect their communities. Theyre doing it to wage violence against people they deem inferior. Their ultimate hope is for society to collapse to the point of allowing them to act as a military/police arm of a fascist ruling class. --- A.M.A.B. ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:933471924] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>The large-scale paramilitary training is what concerns me the most about these groups. Because theyre not doing it to protect their communities. Theyre doing it to wage violence against people they deem inferior. Their ultimate hope is for society to collapse to the point of allowing them to act as a military/police arm of a fascist ruling class. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 01/25/20 4:30:37 PM #45:	shockthemonkey posted... God bless that antifa whistleblower --- Baby, I'm an engineer ;) I can calculate (within a reasonable margin of error) how this nut is gonna splash when it hits ya tiddies <cite>teepan95 posted [p:933472177] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>God bless that antifa whistleblower </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 01/25/20 4:34:32 PM #46:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. Oh god B O T H S I D E S O T H S I D E S --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:933472332] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote>Oh god B O T H S I D E S O T H S I D E S </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 01/25/20 5:04:16 PM #47:	Questionmarktarius posted... Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation. 1) What is antifa accelerating? 2) So what do you believe would have been an ideal situation? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:933473535] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Accelerationists being taken down by other accelerationists isn't exactly an ideal situation.</quote> 1) What is antifa accelerating? 2) So what do you believe would have been an ideal situation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 01/25/20 5:17:11 PM #48:	you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:933474036] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmidgeIsntBack 01/25/20 6:25:24 PM #49:	averagejoel posted... you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right? Possibly the most white noise poster on this hellboard. Seeing 20 missing posts in this topic is only a net positive. --- Podcast/Audiobook Board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1364- View my ASCII art and others' at https://thenewhotness.info/ <cite>SmidgeIsntBack posted [p:933476738] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right?</quote> Possibly the most white noise poster on this hellboard. Seeing 20 missing posts in this topic is only a net positive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 01/25/20 6:40:49 PM #50:	averagejoel posted... you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right? he seems to warned right now anyway --- https://talktotransformer.com The Internet is kind of the whole ****ing Internet. <cite>Machete posted [p:933477336] in Antifascis... [t:78359242]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>you all know you can ignore and block questionmarktarius and he can't do anything about it, right?</quote> he seems to warned right now anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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