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Cheater87 02/01/20 9:18:01 AM #1:	a progressive win the white house? --- Doom, the game with unlimited ways to play. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:933775377] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>a progressive win the white house? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 02/01/20 9:18:20 AM #2:	Yes --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:933775381] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/01/20 9:18:24 AM #3:	probably, yes --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933775383] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>probably, yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DundiesAward 02/01/20 9:18:49 AM #4:	They did it in 2016. Wouldn't be surprised if they cheat Bernie again this time. --- Black Pope <cite>DundiesAward posted [p:933775394] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>They did it in 2016. Wouldn't be surprised if they cheat Bernie again this time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/01/20 9:21:37 AM #5:	Obviously. The Democrats have their share of corruption issues and they'd never want to rock the boat of their friends and/or masters. Plus, I'm sure those Republican tax cuts are great for them as well. You're not allowed to talk about any of that though. You'll be accused of being a right winger or get the "SAME THING BOTH SIDES!!!!" smartass answer. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:933775463] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Obviously. The Democrats have their share of corruption issues and they'd never want to rock the boat of their friends and/or masters. Plus, I'm sure those Republican tax cuts are great for them as well. You're not allowed to talk about any of that though. You'll be accused of being a right winger or get the "SAME THING BOTH SIDES!!!!" smartass answer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 02/01/20 9:25:23 AM #6:	The majority of Dem officials are no better than right-wingers tbh https://thehill.com/campaign-issues/480611-minneapolis-naacp-black-lives-matter-call-on-klobuchar-to-suspend-campaign --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933775547] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The majority of Dem officials are no better than right-wingers tbh https://thehill.com/campaign-issues/480611-minneapolis-naacp-black-lives-matter-call-on-klobuchar-to-suspend-campaign </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 02/01/20 9:26:15 AM #7:	what do they have to gain? --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:933775564] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>what do they have to gain? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 02/01/20 9:37:57 AM #8:	No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:933775829] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 02/01/20 9:37:59 AM #9:	I think if they were to lose, they would rather Biden lose than Warren or Bernie. In that scenario, they can make a point that they arent progress enough and lead the mainstream party even further to the left. Long game <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:933775830] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>I think if they were to lose, they would rather Biden lose than Warren or Bernie. In that scenario, they can make a point that they arent progress enough and lead the mainstream party even further to the left. Long game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/01/20 9:40:40 AM #10:	_RETS_ posted... I think if they were to lose, they would rather Biden lose than Warren or Bernie. In that scenario, they can make a point that they arent progress enough and lead the mainstream party even further to the left. Long game But the ones in charge of the Party don't want the party to move left. They are more of a centrist party and dislike the left folks that they are stuck with out of necessity. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:933775881] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>_RETS_ posted... </cite> <quote>I think if they were to lose, they would rather Biden lose than Warren or Bernie. In that scenario, they can make a point that they arent progress enough and lead the mainstream party even further to the left. Long game</quote>But the ones in charge of the Party don't want the party to move left. They are more of a centrist party and dislike the left folks that they are stuck with out of necessity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 02/01/20 9:49:13 AM #11:	uwnim posted... But the ones in charge of the Party don't want the party to move left. They are more of a centrist party and dislike the left folks that they are stuck with out of necessity. Maybe but they certainly have pressure to move further left <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:933776094] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite> <quote>But the ones in charge of the Party don't want the party to move left. They are more of a centrist party and dislike the left folks that they are stuck with out of necessity.</quote> Maybe but they certainly have pressure to move further left </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 02/01/20 10:00:32 AM #13:	Spooking posted... Sanders: I have over $150 trillion dollars of programs I want to enact. DNC: Um... yeah... This dope has no idea what he's doing and is going to cost us the election. Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:933776349] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Spooking posted... </cite> <quote>Sanders: I have over $150 trillion dollars of programs I want to enact. DNC: Um... yeah... This dope has no idea what he's doing and is going to cost us the election.</quote> Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 02/01/20 10:04:07 AM #14:	I have no doubt that many would. Most of the people who hold power in the Democratic Party date back to at least Obama, many have been around since the time of Clinton, and some even longer. When people have power in an institution that long(unaccountable power, as is mostly the case here), they tend to believe their interests ARE the institution's interests. Ergo, they don't view losing an election as being as bad as losing their power. You'll notice; however, that they'll never admit that. Probably not even to themselves: they just continue to insist that Bernie will lose, even though he tends to poll about as well as Biden does in the general(and the fact that general election polls from February are worthless either way) and that he's consistently outraised all the other Democratic candidates. I think Bernie is especially offensive to them because they convinced themselves that they had to sacrifice their idealism for power, and now here's this crazy, idealistic old man within spitting distance of the ultimate prize. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:933776427] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>I have no doubt that many would. Most of the people who hold power in the Democratic Party date back to at least Obama, many have been around since the time of Clinton, and some even longer. When people have power in an institution that long(unaccountable power, as is mostly the case here), they tend to believe their interests ARE the institution's interests. Ergo, they don't view losing an election as being as bad as losing their power. You'll notice; however, that they'll never admit that. Probably not even to themselves: they just continue to insist that Bernie will lose, even though he tends to poll about as well as Biden does in the general(and the fact that general election polls from February are worthless either way) and that he's consistently outraised all the other Democratic candidates. I think Bernie is especially offensive to them because they convinced themselves that they had to sacrifice their idealism for power, and now here's this crazy, idealistic old man within spitting distance of the ultimate prize. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 02/01/20 10:07:39 AM #15:	ElatedVenusaur posted... I have no doubt that many would. Most of the people who hold power in the Democratic Party date back to at least Obama, many have been around since the time of Clinton, and some even longer. When people have power in an institution that long(unaccountable power, as is mostly the case here), they tend to believe their interests ARE the institution's interests. Ergo, they don't view losing an election as being as bad as losing their power. You'll notice; however, that they'll never admit that. Probably not even to themselves: they just continue to insist that Bernie will lose, even though he tends to poll about as well as Biden does in the general(and the fact that general election polls from February are worthless either way) and that he's consistently outraised all the other Democratic candidates. I think Bernie is especially offensive to them because they convinced themselves that they had to sacrifice their idealism for power, and now here's this crazy, idealistic old man within spitting distance of the ultimate prize. I mean tbf, there are a number of prominent Bernie supporters who point to his h2h as evidence for him winning but somehow Biden's h2hs that are roughly the same or better don't mean that he's going to win. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:933776521] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>I have no doubt that many would. Most of the people who hold power in the Democratic Party date back to at least Obama, many have been around since the time of Clinton, and some even longer. When people have power in an institution that long(unaccountable power, as is mostly the case here), they tend to believe their interests ARE the institution's interests. Ergo, they don't view losing an election as being as bad as losing their power. You'll notice; however, that they'll never admit that. Probably not even to themselves: they just continue to insist that Bernie will lose, even though he tends to poll about as well as Biden does in the general(and the fact that general election polls from February are worthless either way) and that he's consistently outraised all the other Democratic candidates. I think Bernie is especially offensive to them because they convinced themselves that they had to sacrifice their idealism for power, and now here's this crazy, idealistic old man within spitting distance of the ultimate prize.</quote> I mean tbf, there are a number of prominent Bernie supporters who point to his h2h as evidence for him winning but somehow Biden's h2hs that are roughly the same or better don't mean that he's going to win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 02/01/20 10:08:12 AM #16:	Shablagoo posted... Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none. Well you see, playing with human lives like action figures brings in the money. Sending the class of 2025 to go die in a pointless conflict will pay for itself. Theres no $$$ to be made in feeding the homeless. --- It ok Hameru. Rabu. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:933776532] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none.</quote> Well you see, playing with human lives like action figures brings in the money. Sending the class of 2025 to go die in a pointless conflict will pay for itself. Theres no $$$ to be made in feeding the homeless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 02/01/20 10:32:31 AM #17:	The real question is if the DNC will make sure AOC does not win in 2024, she literally supports communist and socialist beliefs that will ruin the country to the point the USA will become a 3rd world country. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:933777183] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The real question is if the DNC will make sure AOC does not win in 2024, she literally supports communist and socialist beliefs that will ruin the country to the point the USA will become a 3rd world country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 02/01/20 11:10:05 AM #18:	Yes Neoliberals dont actually want change, and Bernie rocking the boat scares them more than Trump does --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:933778301] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes Neoliberals dont actually want change, and Bernie rocking the boat scares them more than Trump does</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 02/01/20 11:13:46 AM #19:	Yes --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:933778428] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/20 11:35:22 AM #20:	Anteaterking posted... No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course. Could it be that he actually is more popular, as indicated by almost all polling, and this insistence that Bernie is the only man for the job may be an artifact of Bernie communities being super insular and dogmatic? --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:933779097] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course.</quote> Could it be that he actually is more popular, as indicated by almost all polling, and this insistence that Bernie is the only man for the job may be an artifact of Bernie communities being super insular and dogmatic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 02/01/20 11:39:53 AM #23:	Fun fact. Bernie has more than 2x the supporters on Twitter than Biden does. Bernie is resonating. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:933779261] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Fun fact. Bernie has more than 2x the supporters on Twitter than Biden does. Bernie is resonating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SK8T3R215 02/01/20 11:40:53 AM #24:	They would rather Trump win and keep their status quo than shift the party and lose their influence. --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:933779295] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>They would rather Trump win and keep their status quo than shift the party and lose their influence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 02/01/20 11:44:23 AM #25:	What a stupid thing to say when Biden is the one polling best against Trump. Anteaterking posted... No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course. Sayoria posted... Fun fact. Bernie has more than 2x the supporters on Twitter than Biden does lol you can't make this shit up <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:933779405] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>What a stupid thing to say when Biden is the one polling best against Trump. Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>No, I think they honestly believe that Biden has a better chance. Is that belief colored by the bubble they live in? Of course.</quote> Sayoria posted... </cite> <quote>Fun fact. Bernie has more than 2x the supporters on Twitter than Biden does</quote> lol you can't make this shit up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/01/20 11:58:20 AM #26:	what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020 <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:933779883] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeldaMutant 02/01/20 12:13:42 PM #27:	The DNC is a party of big business, and Bernie is fundamentally against big businesses. Arguably Bernie threatens the capitalist economy of America as a whole, even if he isn't explicitly against all capitalism. So of course the DNC would rather want a pro-capitalist president from another party than a radical from their own. --- 96065 <cite>ZeldaMutant posted [p:933780412] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The DNC is a party of big business, and Bernie is fundamentally against big businesses. Arguably Bernie threatens the capitalist economy of America as a whole, even if he isn't explicitly against all capitalism. So of course the DNC would rather want a pro-capitalist president from another party than a radical from their own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/01/20 12:15:31 PM #28:	Yes, their livelihood is at risk if we actually shake up the system. Most of them just virtue signal about change and progressivism --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:933780485] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes, their livelihood is at risk if we actually shake up the system. Most of them just virtue signal about change and progressivism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 02/01/20 12:24:48 PM #29:	CruelBuffalo posted... what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020 The DNC refuses to give Sanders the nomination just because other people get more votes than him. This is unacceptable. In a true democratic socialist system the right candidate always wins, no matter what. For example, a 26% approval rating won't stop comrade Maduro from being reelected with 70% of the vote, that's how you know the system works. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:933780862] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020</quote> The DNC refuses to give Sanders the nomination just because other people get more votes than him. This is unacceptable. In a true democratic socialist system the right candidate always wins, no matter what. For example, a 26% approval rating won't stop comrade Maduro from being reelected with 70% of the vote, that's how you know the system works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/01/20 12:25:56 PM #30:	Broseph_Stalin posted... The DNC refuses to give Sanders the nomination just because other people get more votes than him. This is unacceptable. In a true democratic socialist system the right candidate always wins, no matter what. For example, a 26% approval rating won't stop comrade Maduro from being reelected with 70% of the vote, that's how you know the system works. Weird post when the person that beat Bernie lost the election despite having the most votes. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:933780905] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>The DNC refuses to give Sanders the nomination just because other people get more votes than him. This is unacceptable. In a true democratic socialist system the right candidate always wins, no matter what. For example, a 26% approval rating won't stop comrade Maduro from being reelected with 70% of the vote, that's how you know the system works.</quote>Weird post when the person that beat Bernie lost the election despite having the most votes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 12:41:04 PM #31:	Biden will lose to Trump and all the big brained centrists and pundits will blame "Bernie Bros" and young voters for low turnout numbers and then wonder why insulting and mocking his supporters didn't make them come out and support Joe. --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933781430] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Biden will lose to Trump and all the big brained centrists and pundits will blame "Bernie Bros" and young voters for low turnout numbers and then wonder why insulting and mocking his supporters didn't make them come out and support Joe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 12:42:28 PM #32:	CruelBuffalo posted... what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020 I mean, staffing the DNC rules committee with Hillary and Obama people who openly show contempt for Sanders.... But I'm sure they'll totally be fair and impartial --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933781492] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>what specifically did the DNC do to stop Bernie but benefit everyone else in 2020</quote> I mean, staffing the DNC rules committee with Hillary and Obama people who openly show contempt for Sanders.... But I'm sure they'll totally be fair and impartial </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/01/20 12:43:46 PM #33:	The Great Muta 22 posted... I mean, staffing the DNC rules committee with Hillary and Obama people who openly show contempt for Sanders.... But I'm sure they'll totally be fair and impartial ah so nothing <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:933781553] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The Great Muta 22 posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, staffing the DNC rules committee with Hillary and Obama people who openly show contempt for Sanders.... But I'm sure they'll totally be fair and impartial</quote> ah so nothing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 02/01/20 12:53:36 PM #34:	Yes. It's well studied that people would rather maintain their power over a sinking ship than risk losing their position to plug up the holes. If you spend even 1 second in the crosstabs of polls, you'd be able to put 2 and 2 together with Biden's "support." His own supporters: are the least enthusiastic say he least represents the future of the party trust him the least on important issues like healthcare are incredibly old have their #1 priority as beating Trump which they feel he's the best to do. Why do they think that? Look at the last point. Their age demo lines up perfectly with the viewers of bad faith, conservative owned TV networks saying Biden's our only shot. There's a reason Biden's supporters 2nd choice is overwhelmingly Sanders. It doesn't line up with the laughable theory that the country is filled with ideologically driven right wing economic "moderates" that are itching to vote democrat if you would only give them a DINO (like the lazy neolibs in this topic think.) It's because they are low info elderly voters that like Sanders well enough but just want to beat Trump and TV man says he's the only one to do it. Now go ahead and repeat the mistake of 2016. Go to battle with someone that can't get volunteers, has no grass roots support, doesn't excite the base, and has corruption + trade issues Trump can dunk on to lower voter turnout even further. We'll just skirt by on the popular vote and lose EC again. If we're lucky. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:933781947] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes. It's well studied that people would rather maintain their power over a sinking ship than risk losing their position to plug up the holes. If you spend even 1 second in the crosstabs of polls, you'd be able to put 2 and 2 together with Biden's "support." His own supporters: are the least enthusiastic say he least represents the future of the party trust him the least on important issues like healthcare are incredibly old have their #1 priority as beating Trump which they feel he's the best to do. Why do they think that? Look at the last point. Their age demo lines up perfectly with the viewers of bad faith, conservative owned TV networks saying Biden's our only shot. There's a reason Biden's supporters 2nd choice is overwhelmingly Sanders. It doesn't line up with the laughable theory that the country is filled with ideologically driven right wing economic "moderates" that are itching to vote democrat if you would only give them a DINO (like the lazy neolibs in this topic think.) It's because they are low info elderly voters that like Sanders well enough but just want to beat Trump and TV man says he's the only one to do it. Now go ahead and repeat the mistake of 2016. Go to battle with someone that can't get volunteers, has no grass roots support, doesn't excite the base, and has corruption + trade issues Trump can dunk on to lower voter turnout even further. We'll just skirt by on the popular vote and lose EC again. If we're lucky. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 12:56:37 PM #35:	CruelBuffalo posted... ah so nothing Not yet but I can all but guarantee that if Sanders gets the votes and has the most pledged delegates going into the convention and isn't named the nominee not only will whoever is nominated get steam rolled by Trump, there is going to also be a mass riot and protests that break out. Not only that but I can also promise you right now that Biden will lost to Trump. He's not going to win back PA/MI/WI or flip enough states otherwise. So the DNC had better tread carefully if they try to prop him up as a candidate --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933782068] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>CruelBuffalo posted... </cite> <quote>ah so nothing</quote> Not yet but I can all but guarantee that if Sanders gets the votes and has the most pledged delegates going into the convention and isn't named the nominee not only will whoever is nominated get steam rolled by Trump, there is going to also be a mass riot and protests that break out. Not only that but I can also promise you right now that Biden will lost to Trump. He's not going to win back PA/MI/WI or flip enough states otherwise. So the DNC had better tread carefully if they try to prop him up as a candidate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CRON 02/01/20 1:02:05 PM #36:	UnfairRepresent posted... Yes --- [obligatory signature] <cite>CRON posted [p:933782268] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Yes</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 02/01/20 1:09:00 PM #38:	Tim Kaine was such a boring choice. The best VP pick Hillary could have made is Bernie Sanders and the correct answer from him would have been a no. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:933782512] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Tim Kaine was such a boring choice. The best VP pick Hillary could have made is Bernie Sanders and the correct answer from him would have been a no. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 1:12:24 PM #39:	ScazarMeltex posted... Trump for all of his failings as a leader and a human being understood his electorate in a way Hillary never did. Interestingly enough, I don't think he ever really believed he had a chance. This, and I'm trying to tell people over and over again that running a milquetoast centrist against Trump is not going to get it done. Telling people "we will go back to how it was under Obama!" fundamentally is ignoring how Trump was able to rise and win in the first place, and it is ignoring the sentiment in the entire Western world with regards to third way policies. It also is ignoring how Obama was able to win and flip a lot of Republican voters over as when he first ran he ran as something bigger than the standard Democrat. It's also ignoring that a lot of peoples lives fucking sucked under Obama. Joe Biden will lose to Trump, each day that passes I'm more convinced of that and people need to understand that --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933782623] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Trump for all of his failings as a leader and a human being understood his electorate in a way Hillary never did. Interestingly enough, I don't think he ever really believed he had a chance.</quote> This, and I'm trying to tell people over and over again that running a milquetoast centrist against Trump is not going to get it done. Telling people "we will go back to how it was under Obama!" fundamentally is ignoring how Trump was able to rise and win in the first place, and it is ignoring the sentiment in the entire Western world with regards to third way policies. It also is ignoring how Obama was able to win and flip a lot of Republican voters over as when he first ran he ran as something bigger than the standard Democrat. It's also ignoring that a lot of peoples lives fucking sucked under Obama. Joe Biden will lose to Trump, each day that passes I'm more convinced of that and people need to understand that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 02/01/20 1:15:06 PM #40:	100%. Biden has brain worms yet the DNC will rather lose with him then win with Bernie any day. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:933782696] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>100%. Biden has brain worms yet the DNC will rather lose with him then win with Bernie any day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreverzero212 02/01/20 1:19:54 PM #41:	Yes picking a stiff like Tim Kaine was also a mistake that's important to bring up. Now we have Biden that is comfortable commenting on the idea of him picking a republican for VP. That ain't giving me hope he's going to make a better decision. --- lions and panthers oh my <cite>foreverzero212 posted [p:933782879] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Yes picking a stiff like Tim Kaine was also a mistake that's important to bring up. Now we have Biden that is comfortable commenting on the idea of him picking a republican for VP. That ain't giving me hope he's going to make a better decision. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
glitteringfairy 02/01/20 1:25:39 PM #42:	Shablagoo posted... Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none. This isn't a good comparison. No war has ever come close to costing 150 trillion. Like, not even in the same ball park close --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot? V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://i.imgtc.com/lyRboFN.jpg <cite>glitteringfairy posted [p:933783120] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none.</quote>This isn't a good comparison. No war has ever come close to costing 150 trillion. Like, not even in the same ball park close </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 1:32:48 PM #44:	foreverzero212 posted... Yes picking a stiff like Tim Kaine was also a mistake that's important to bring up. Now we have Biden that is comfortable commenting on the idea of him picking a republican for VP. That ain't giving me hope he's going to make a better decision. The party is starting to rally around Mike Bloomberg pisses me off more than anything. Same Mike Bloomberg that fucking spoke at the RNC in 2004 and praised Dubya for starting the Iraq War and was a registered Republican last year. Fuck him and fuck their party. --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933783378] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>foreverzero212 posted... </cite> <quote>Yes picking a stiff like Tim Kaine was also a mistake that's important to bring up. Now we have Biden that is comfortable commenting on the idea of him picking a republican for VP. That ain't giving me hope he's going to make a better decision.</quote> The party is starting to rally around Mike Bloomberg pisses me off more than anything. Same Mike Bloomberg that fucking spoke at the RNC in 2004 and praised Dubya for starting the Iraq War and was a registered Republican last year. Fuck him and fuck their party. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 02/01/20 1:48:54 PM #46:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Not only that but I can also promise you right now that Biden will lost to Trump. He's not going to win back PA/MI/WI or flip enough states otherwise. Not only is Biden performing better in primary polling in those states, he's also polling better against Trump in them. It's so weird how how Sanders supporters talk matter-of-factly about support he just doesn't have. They really do live in Twitter. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:933784004] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The Great Muta 22 posted... </cite> <quote>Not only that but I can also promise you right now that Biden will lost to Trump. He's not going to win back PA/MI/WI or flip enough states otherwise.</quote> Not only is Biden performing better in primary polling in those states, he's also polling better against Trump in them. It's so weird how how Sanders supporters talk matter-of-factly about support he just doesn't have. They really do live in Twitter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Supernatural 02/01/20 1:51:23 PM #47:	Shablagoo posted... Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none. War makes us money tho GIMME THE LOOT! --- Carry on my wayward son. <cite>Supernatural posted [p:933784126] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Funny how we have unlimited money for endless war but when we want to feed a starving guy a sandwich suddenly there is none.</quote>War makes us money tho GIMME THE LOOT! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 02/01/20 1:53:10 PM #48:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Not only is Biden performing better in primary polling in those states, he's also polling better against Trump in them. It's so weird how how Sanders supporters talk matter-of-factly about support he just doesn't have. They really do live in Twitter. Not only is polling for the general this far out ridiculous, this also flies in the face to what we've seen in recent elections. Populism is very, well, popular in the rust belt region that has seen their communities destroyed by NAFTA. I fucking work in a Obama to Trump county in PA near Scranton itself and I can promise you that "Scranton Joe" isn't something anyone cares about. There's a reason why despite how red Ohio has gotten a Democrat like Sherrod Brown wins election after election. But hey, if people want to double down with a mild centrist like Biden be my guest. This time I'll be laughing at the videos of people crying along with the Trump voters --- https://twitter.com/bastardspod Buy bolt cutters and machetes <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:933784205] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Not only is Biden performing better in primary polling in those states, he's also polling better against Trump in them. It's so weird how how Sanders supporters talk matter-of-factly about support he just doesn't have. They really do live in Twitter.</quote> Not only is polling for the general this far out ridiculous, this also flies in the face to what we've seen in recent elections. Populism is very, well, popular in the rust belt region that has seen their communities destroyed by NAFTA. I fucking work in a Obama to Trump county in PA near Scranton itself and I can promise you that "Scranton Joe" isn't something anyone cares about. There's a reason why despite how red Ohio has gotten a Democrat like Sherrod Brown wins election after election. But hey, if people want to double down with a mild centrist like Biden be my guest. This time I'll be laughing at the videos of people crying along with the Trump voters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 02/01/20 2:01:22 PM #49:	Any kind of polling is sill better than facts you pull out of your ass. Biden leads Bernie in PA by 10 percentage points, and even Clinton beat Bernie there by 12 points in 2016. He's not as popular as you think he is, get off the internet. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:933784519] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>Any kind of polling is sill better than facts you pull out of your ass. Biden leads Bernie in PA by 10 percentage points, and even Clinton beat Bernie there by 12 points in 2016. He's not as popular as you think he is, get off the internet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/01/20 2:04:25 PM #50:	The Great Muta 22 posted... I fucking work in a Obama to Trump county in PA Most of the reasons people talk about why Trump actually took these types of regions are complete narrative, divorced from data. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:933784637] in Do you thi... [t:78374818]...</cite> <quote>The Great Muta 22 posted... </cite> <quote>I fucking work in a Obama to Trump county in PA</quote> Most of the reasons people talk about why Trump actually took these types of regions are complete narrative, divorced from data. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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