Poll of the Day > So Republicans plan to acquit Trump on or around Friday

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Mead posted...

Trump derangement system is totally a thing, they hate trump for no reason

Continues to be furious at Obama for asking for mustard on his hamburger

That's fine. Now if he asked for mayo then the gloves would come off.

DPsx7 posted...

No surprise. Now I can laugh at those people who said it wasn't fake. It's a publicity stunt and nothing more. Once again I was right, funny how often that happens.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
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wolfy42 posted...

I do not know what TDS is.........Trump Dump syndrome? Trump Dislike Syndrome? I have no clue.

It's Trump Derangement Syndrome. The simple version is that it's extreme hate and paranoia directed, primarily, at Trump. Well beyond any reasonable degree. The basic idea is that if Trump does something people with TDS will oppose it, find a problem with it, or something else simply because it's TRUMP that did it and they see him as the source of all evil or close to it. It's why I don't care one bit about impeachment or anything related to it. Because I firmly believe that the majority of the media now has TDS as does the majority of the democratic party so anything they say and do will be influenced by it. If Trump said he liked vodka they'd claim it's proof of him being a Russian asset and demand impeachment. This is often accompanied by extreme political tribalism. If a photo emerged of Hilary/Biden/Bernie/whoever else not only having sex with Putin, but Putin sent a love letter to them and they started speaking Russian they'd oppose impeachment simply because.

We're effectively in a post-truth/fact world now. They don't matter. What does is the political tribe.

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Unbridled9 posted...

It's why I don't care one bit about impeachment or anything related to it.

yet cant stop posting about it

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Revelation34 posted...

That's fine. Now if he asked for mayo then the gloves would come off.

Toasting the bun and lightly spreading mayo on it is the only acceptable way to eat a burger.

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Unbridled9 posted...

The basic idea is that if Trump does something people with TDS will oppose it, find a problem with it, or something else simply because it's TRUMP that did it and they see him as the source of all evil or close to it.

it can't possibly be that what he did was actually wrong, everybody else must be crazy

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Republicans are trying to destroy the separation of powers at every chance.

Lose an election? Change the position to remove power. Have a minority of votes? District so that you're in power anyway, with a supermajority if possible. Separation of powers? What's that, doesn't everyone know the House, Senate, and courts should be subordinate to the president, and that open witness intimidation and personal insults by the president are now appropriate, mid trial even, on all matters?

All the decent Republicans left the party a while ago.

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papercup posted...

Toasting the bun and lightly spreading mayo on it is the only acceptable way to eat a burger.

https://imgur.com/DQvPSgE
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Zareth posted...

All the decent Republicans left the party a while ago.

they kick anyone out of the party as soon as they dont fall in line

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Mead posted...

they kick anyone out of the party as soon as they dont fall in line

To the point of public schoolyard bully insults, even during serious issues. They are normalizing behaving like a total jerk being somehow something to praise.

Mead posted...

they kick anyone out of the party as soon as they dont fall in line

for example, take their two presidential candidates before Trump: John McCain and Mitt Romney. now they are considered traitors by Republicans because they didn't fall 100% in line behind Trump. I say 100% because they still voted with Trump on a majority of issues but made a big public show about voting against him on a few key things.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Well, yea. He could be completely innocent and the dems would vote to impeach, or guilty as heck and the republicans would vote to acquit. It's not about if he did anything or not, it's party politics.

yeah this

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Phantom_Nook posted...

for example, take their two presidential candidates before Trump: John McCain and Mitt Romney. now they are considered traitors by Republicans because they didn't fall 100% in line behind Trump. I say 100% because they still voted with Trump on a majority of issues but made a big public show about voting against him on a few key things.

Yep, Paul Ryan was my representative for part of my life. My brother, who told me to vote for him. has nothing but bad things to say about him. My aunt, when John McCain died? She had nothing good to say. Republican thralls are trained to not just reject, but outright hate anyone even Republican that doesn't lick Trump's boots or support far-right agendas.

I never agreed with much of John McCain's policy, but he is a hero for sticking up for his beliefs and this country. He unwaveringly stood up against torture, but the Republicans are so far to the right now many seem to be PRO-torture, which is downright un-American in my opinion. To see them drag him through the mud is disgusting. To see Trump sycophants hide his name when Trump is around (Trump did not ask for that, to be fair), is terrifying.

But I suppose much like a mob boss, President Trump doesn't have to say it does he? We are heading towards a political climate in which to be anything, Republican or not, you must be a Trump sycophant. That is a dire threat to this country.

Unbridled9 posted...

It's Trump Derangement Syndrome. The simple version is that it's extreme hate and paranoia directed, primarily, at Trump. Well beyond any reasonable degree. The basic idea is that if Trump does something people with TDS will oppose it, find a problem with it, or something else simply because it's TRUMP that did it and they see him as the source of all evil or close to it. It's why I don't care one bit about impeachment or anything related to it. Because I firmly believe that the majority of the media now has TDS as does the majority of the democratic party so anything they say and do will be influenced by it. If Trump said he liked vodka they'd claim it's proof of him being a Russian asset and demand impeachment. This is often accompanied by extreme political tribalism. If a photo emerged of Hilary/Biden/Bernie/whoever else not only having sex with Putin, but Putin sent a love letter to them and they started speaking Russian they'd oppose impeachment simply because.

We're effectively in a post-truth/fact world now. They don't matter. What does is the political tribe.

Have a cookie. Well put. I just wish they finished enough school to know their mistake instead of being spoon fed by the big business media.

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Another troubling thing: most conservatives I know are trained to only get their news from Fox News and far-right talk show hosts.

Now Fox News itself doesn't lick Trump's boots enough all the time. A single question for one of his lies gets the host massive hatred. So now they are making a new news network to be even more of a propaganda piece rather than a news agency.

And his thralls are trained that, somehow, everything else BUT their couple of sources are somehow the corrupt ones.

Unbridled9 posted...

It's Trump Derangement Syndrome. The simple version is that it's extreme hate and paranoia directed, primarily, at Trump. Well beyond any reasonable degree. The basic idea is that if Trump does something people with TDS will oppose it, find a problem with it, or something else simply because it's TRUMP that did it and they see him as the source of all evil or close to it. It's why I don't care one bit about impeachment or anything related to it. Because I firmly believe that the majority of the media now has TDS as does the majority of the democratic party so anything they say and do will be influenced by it. If Trump said he liked vodka they'd claim it's proof of him being a Russian asset and demand impeachment. This is often accompanied by extreme political tribalism. If a photo emerged of Hilary/Biden/Bernie/whoever else not only having sex with Putin, but Putin sent a love letter to them and they started speaking Russian they'd oppose impeachment simply because.

We're effectively in a post-truth/fact world now. They don't matter. What does is the political tribe.

"People don't like Trump for no reason so clearly they're crazy!"? Again, do you just not pay attention? Are you trying to be wrong?

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Voxwik posted...

Another troubling thing: most conservatives I know are trained to only get their news from Fox News and far-right talk show hosts.

Now Fox News itself doesn't lick Trump's boots enough all the time. A single question for one of his lies gets the host massive hatred. So now they are making a new news network to be even more of a propaganda piece rather than a news agency.

And his thralls are trained that, somehow, everything else BUT their couple of sources are somehow the corrupt ones.

This, if anything, the conservatives and Trumplets that just believe what the media tells them. Fuck, I've even heard people say that Fox news is too liberal. Yes. Really. There are people THAT clueless.

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Dems were gonna impeach him no matter what thats why they didnt do anything about his complete bumblefuckery until nearly the end of his term

/s

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Mead posted...

Dems were gonna impeach him no matter what thats why they didnt do anything about his complete bumblefuckery until nearly the end of his term

/s

So you're saying they only did it for election season?
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And, to be clear because I'm going to ignore this topic most likely:
I do not think all the Democratic party candidates are great.

All I can hope is that this unraveling of the separation of powers stops somehow.

papercup posted...

"People don't like Trump for no reason so clearly they're crazy!"? Again, do you just not pay attention? Are you trying to be wrong?

like he said, we live in a post-truth society. that's his contribution to it.

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Voxwik posted...

All I can hope is that this unraveling of the separation of powers stops somehow.

Don't worry, it won't.

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GreenKnight127 posted...

Moderators only give a shit if it impacts the Left in a negative way.

The Liberal bias couldn't be more apparent on gamefaqs.

This.

You can easily find posts where lefties on this board directly insult people who aren't Marxists nutcases and zero moderations will take place.

But if you DARE to allude to something like : "The Dem party's candidates are a bunch of virtue signalers." Will get you moderated for, and wait for it, "insulting democratic voters."

The hypocrisy of the mod team is really impressive. Just admit that you're biased and we can just say we were right once again, and move on.

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papercup posted...

"People don't like Trump for no reason so clearly they're crazy!"? Again, do you just not pay attention? Are you trying to be wrong?

A good example of TDS in action, if a mild one (hopefully). Notice that I didn't say Trump was guilty or innocent. I said we were in a world now where the question of if he's innocent or not is irrelevant because of political tribalism. I have not stated my opinion on if he's guilty or not or if I support him or not. Rather I've done my best to be consistent in my belief that, if he's innocent, the Dems would still vote to impeach and, if he's guilty, the Republicans would still vote to acquit.

My own personal political affiliation is independent. I think both the left and right have some good policies, especially with how things like 'Freedom of Speech' have become increasingly associated with the political right, but the modern political spectrum simply doesn't deal with the things I consider core to my current 'importance rankings'. Namely reforming education to improve American schools, the rights of the employee, and other such things. Something like gay rights, while I will acknowledge their importance to others, are not important to me and do not impact how I vote in the slightest. As of this moment neither party has really presented a case as to why I should vote for them.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Notice that I didn't say Trump was guilty or innocent.

No one in the senate is even arguing that he is innocent. He is guilty as a matter of fact.

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Unbridled9 posted...

A good example of TDS in action, if a mild one (hopefully). Notice that I didn't say Trump was guilty or innocent. I said we were in a world now where the question of if he's innocent or not is irrelevant because of political tribalism. I have not stated my opinion on if he's guilty or not or if I support him or not. Rather I've done my best to be consistent in my belief that, if he's innocent, the Dems would still vote to impeach and, if he's guilty, the Republicans would still vote to acquit.

This is in itself a deranged belief. If you don't have an opinion on his guilt or innocence how can you possibly judge the actions and motives of those involved in the impeachment?

You are entering into the discussion with your mind already made up, which is especially ironic given that's exactly what you're accusing those involved of.

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ITT: orange man good
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The_tall_midget posted...

This.

You can easily find posts where lefties on this board directly insult people who aren't Marxists nutcases and zero moderations will take place.

But if you DARE to allude to something like : "The Dem party's candidates are a bunch of virtue signalers." Will get you moderated for, and wait for it, "insulting democratic voters."

The hypocrisy of the mod team is really impressive. Just admit that you're biased and we can just say we were right once again, and move on.

The_tall_midget posted...

This.

You can easily find posts where lefties on this board directly insult people who aren't Marxists nutcases and zero moderations will take place.

But if you DARE to allude to something like : "The Dem party's candidates are a bunch of virtue signalers." Will get you moderated for, and wait for it, "insulting democratic voters."

The hypocrisy of the mod team is really impressive. Just admit that you're biased and we can just say we were right once again, and move on.

Exactly!

It's so obvious, I don't understand how the moderators even get away with calling themselves "moderators". They aren't moderating anything. They are promoting one political agenda, and silencing another. They're more like activists than moderators.

There are easily 20-some topics within the past week on the Politics board where people openly bash Conservatives, Republicans, and Trump-supporters in general. In the topic headlines. Clearly troll topics. Clearly inciteful and baity bullshit. Just trying to upset people and start arguments.

None of them got moderated.

Do the same thing to the Democratic party, Liberals, Hillary Clinton, Obama, Biden, etc.....and you will quickly get moderated for trolling.

The bias is real.


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Blighboy posted...

This is in itself a deranged belief. If you don't have an opinion on his guilt or innocence how can you possibly judge the actions and motives of those involved in the impeachment?

You are entering into the discussion with your mind already made up, which is especially ironic given that's exactly what you're accusing those involved of.

What he said.

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Blighboy posted...

This is in itself a deranged belief. If you don't have an opinion on his guilt or innocence how can you possibly judge the actions and motives of those involved in the impeachment?

You are entering into the discussion with your mind already made up, which is especially ironic given that's exactly what you're accusing those involved of.

Really easily. By their actions elsewhere as well as how they handle themselves. Attitude matters and I've seen nothing but unbridled, unrestrained, hatred from the left. I've seen the media gleefully spout false stories, champion stupid causes, and everything else to oppose him. That they'd seek to impeach him regardless of his guilt isn't just expected, but unexpected in how long they delayed. In fact I predict that, if the current attitudes persist, they will seek to impeach the next Republican president for whatever they can possibly decide on. Likewise I've seen that the Republicans either don't really care so much or are flat-out encouraged by his attitudes and mannerisms. In fact I'd almost say it's like they enjoy being attacked and targeted by the left. So that they'd stand by the president regardless of his guilt is also expected. If Trump is guilty or innocent, what he did or did not do, effectively doesn't matter. Both parties are acting exactly as one would expect them to given how they've been acting for the past decade or so.

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HornedLion posted...

Ain't it funny how people seem to always disagree with what's well-known but absolutely believe nutty fringe theories to be absolutely true?

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Voxwik posted...

Republicans are trying to destroy the separation of powers at every chance.

Lose an election? Change the position to remove power. Have a minority of votes? District so that you're in power anyway, with a supermajority if possible. Separation of powers? What's that, doesn't everyone know the House, Senate, and courts should be subordinate to the president, and that open witness intimidation and personal insults by the president are now appropriate, mid trial even, on all matters?

Sounds kinda like when the Roman Republic failed and the Roman Empire took it's place

Trump is gonna try to Julius Caesar this country

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You went for the nuclear option, despite knowing how it was going to go down ahead of time.

Oh, the pens! A day that will go down in history! The children will sing songs akin to "in 1492"...

No. Not even close to the reality of the clown world we all actually have to live in.

Nixon stepped down because he expected to live another 30+ years and had a concept of shame.

Trump has no shame. I get it. You slap each other's backs with tears of joy. "We got 'em! We finally got 'em after 3 years of "Russia Russia Putin Russia" didn't stick.

Trump and the best standup comics have something in common, and it's this. Never apologize. Never give in to the woke mob. Maintain eye contact and establish dominance. Continue having a career.

You thought after the Bernie endorsement that you could cancel Rogan because of things he said? How'd that work out? Pfft.

Meanwhile, Mazza just got fired by Vox for being a diseased limb.

There's a lesson to be learned here.

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Unbridled9 posted...

That they'd seek to impeach him regardless of his guilt isn't just expected, but unexpected in how long they delayed

Again, you see evidence counter to the opinion you've already formed, but ignore it because it doesn't match with the outcome you've already imagined in your mind palace.

Ultimately it doesnt matter even if he was being impeached by people who would do so regardless. An investigation is not decided by who the prosecution and defence are (which is good because lawyers tend to be shitty people). They're decided by what the accused actually did.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Really easily. By their actions elsewhere as well as how they handle themselves. Attitude matters and I've seen nothing but unbridled, unrestrained, hatred from the left. I've seen the media gleefully spout false stories, champion stupid causes, and everything else to oppose him. That they'd seek to impeach him regardless of his guilt isn't just expected, but unexpected in how long they delayed. In fact I predict that, if the current attitudes persist, they will seek to impeach the next Republican president for whatever they can possibly decide on. Likewise I've seen that the Republicans either don't really care so much or are flat-out encouraged by his attitudes and mannerisms. In fact I'd almost say it's like they enjoy being attacked and targeted by the left. So that they'd stand by the president regardless of his guilt is also expected. If Trump is guilty or innocent, what he did or did not do, effectively doesn't matter. Both parties are acting exactly as one would expect them to given how they've been acting for the past decade or so.

You think they will go after the next republican? Are you so convinced the next republican president will do such a stupidly criminal act like Trump?

People just don't get impeached for no reason, wtf are you even going on about?

BlackScythe0 posted...

You think they will go after the next republican? Are you so convinced the next republican president will do such a stupidly criminal act like Trump?

People just don't get impeached for no reason, wtf are you even going on about?

Yup. Doesn't matter what they say or do. They'll go after them for something. Only way it won't is if the hyper-partisan nature of current politics ends; which I doubt it will.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Yup. Doesn't matter what they say or do. They'll go after them for something. Only way it won't is if the hyper-partisan nature of current politics ends; which I doubt it will.

funny that the dems waited so long to actually impeach trump if they were willing to do so for just anything

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Unbridled9 posted...

Yup. Doesn't matter what they say or do. They'll go after them for something. Only way it won't is if the hyper-partisan nature of current politics ends; which I doubt it will.

Don't know why you're wasting your time. Blackscythe0 is so far left that he fell off the cliff.

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Mead, can you PLEASE stop using that emoji. It's really annoying.

The_tall_midget posted...

Don't know why you're wasting your time. Blackscythe0 is so far left that he fell off the cliff.

Can I throw rocks over the cliff after him? Because of him I'm tempted to go to the right on this issue now. Not gonna let one online ***** define my political ideology, but dealing with him sure didn't make me desire to be on his side.

Edit: In other words, learn how to PR. It matters.

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Unbridled9 posted...

...but dealing with him sure didn't make me desire to be on his side.

Yeah, they tend to do that.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

You think they will go after the next republican? Are you so convinced the next republican president will do such a stupidly criminal act like Trump?

My problem with this partisan shit show is that literally ever president makes deals with the devil. It comes with the job. If nobody bothered to question Trump's mob ties before the election when he was in real estate in NYC during the 70s-the 90's before he was in office, it's mind-meltingly stupid to *shockedPikachuface.jpg* when he makes Ukraine an offer they can't refuse.

With every great fortune comes a great crime. The goal isn't justice, or even performative outrage. It's to keep all sides off balance and on their heels to make sure business as usual continues.

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Except Trump is doing it for personal gain. Unless you buy the "getting elected is in the country's best interests" bullshit, in which case you're more naive than those you're railing against.

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