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UnfairRepresent 02/07/20 4:51:03 PM #1: |
Mitt Romney will have a long road to redemption with the GOP at least as long as President Trump is in office.
For those closest to the president, the business titan who was the party standard-bearer just eight years ago may never be forgiven over his dramatic vote to convict Trump on abuse of power this week. He could face primary challenges on top of the sustained scorn of Trump backers in his own state. His own family has a beef with him. The U.S. Capitol will become an instantly more challenging labyrinth of relationships. The Utah senator acknowledged as much in a Fox News interview, saying he expects "enormous" consequences for his impeachment trial decision. In a political sense, he is ostracized. He is excommunicated. He has lost all credibility. He should hire lots of security guards -- I don't wish him any physical harm, but people are furious! said Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, who already disinvited Romney from the popular CPAC convention this month. As for whether Romney can be forgiven by Republicans, Schlapp had a terse answer: Never. But in the more cordial halls of the Capitol, Romney may yet find his place once more. Lawmakers, even as they voiced disappointment in his decision to cast the lone defecting GOP vote against Trump at the close of his impeachment trial, took a less hostile view of Romneys decision and role in the Republican Party. An effort in Utah to allow voters to recall their senators suddenly picked up steam. Although the author of the legislation said the bill was never aimed at Romney specifically, the effort caught fire since Romneys impeachment vote on Wednesday, the Deseret News reports. The bill, sponsored by GOP Utah state Rep. Tim Quinn, would create a process by which a recall vote could go on the ballot after a petition by voters. Quinn said hes been inundated this week with phone calls and emails that are 100 percent positive to the bill. The American Conservative Union is backing the recall legislation. But Schlapp said Romney should do Utah voters a favor and just resign. "That would be the honorable thing [to do]," he told Fox News. Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, who attended the impeachment vote, said Romney will be a one-term senator. Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., an outspoken Trump backer, said: I don't see punishment coming, other than from the voters of Utah." Dan Eberhart, a GOP fundraiser, said that Romneys actions will certainly invite a primary challenge. Romney has been waiting to thumb his nose at Trump in the highest-profile way since his arrival in the Senate, Eberhart said. Romney is now the first senator in history to convict a president of his own party. Thats going to have a lasting impact on how hes seen within the Republican Party. But Eberhart, CEO of Canary LLC, an oilfield drilling company, reminded how Sen. Ted Cruz was once booed off the Republican National Convention stage for failing to endorse Trump in 2016, but still won reelection in Texas in 2018. "I imagine it will die down as time marches on. [Majority Leader] Mitch McConnells preference for a majority over purity will prevail as always," he said. Romney said he's aware he'll face serious political and personal consequences in Utah and Washington. "Yeah, it's going to get very lonely," he told Fox News' Chris Wallace. "And again, the consequences are significant. ... They're enough that it made this a very difficult process for me. There has not been a morning since this process began that I've slept beyond 4:00 a.m." Intense Trump supporters viewed Romneys defection as the ultimate betrayal and the final chapter of a long and troubled relationship between the two powerful men. Romney was complimentary toward Trump when he needed his endorsement for president in 2012 and for Utah senator in 2018, but in between, he ripped Trump as a fraud and a phony and refused to back him as president -- instead voting for his wife, Ann, whose name he wrote on his ballot. On Wednesday, an emotional Romney cited his strong faith as the reason he had to follow his conviction and explained: God demanded it of me. Trump tore into that rationale at the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday. After brandishing newspapers with the headlines ACQUITTED, Trump told the crowd, I dont like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong." Schlapp said Romneys justification of faith was particularly galling. Him trotting out his faith and God was insulting to those of us who believe in God and believe differently than him on this vote," Schlapp said. "I also think it's strange that he puts God in the drawer and then pulls him back out depending on the political circumstances that impact Mitt Romney. Several Republicans on the Hill Thursday declined to criticize Trump for making the veiled comments at Romney's faith at the prayer breakfast, either saying they didnt hear him or explaining coyly that Trump didn't mention Romneys name specifically. But Curtis, the Utah lawmaker, said: I know Mitt Romney to be a man of faith and I wouldnt question his faith. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Senator Romney, who's been very helpful to me, this is something that we obviously saw very differently on, Curtis said. Outrage on social media against Romney was swift and fiercewith Trumps oldest son, Don Jr., posting a meme of Romney calling him a ***** and tweeting that the 2012 GOP presidential nominee should be expelled from the Republican Party. Others branded Romney a traitor or a sore loser who is still bitter that Trump won the presidency when he couldnt. President Trump tweeted out a video that accused Romney of being a Democrat secret asset. Actress and activist Alyssa Milano thanked Romney for his courage: "History will remember you as a decent, courageous, man among cowards and fools," she tweeted. Actor and comedian Ben Stiller said he has a lot of respect for Mitt Romney following his conscience and doing what he feels is right. Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., said Romneys speech will go down as one of the most important in the Senate. Theres still honor in this place," Murphy said. "Theres still individuals willing to put party aside when the country was on the line. I think a lot of people are going to read that speech for centuries. Even squad member Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., defended Romney in the face of attacks from Trump at the National Prayer Breakfast. It is completely sad to see the president behave that way. I think it was counter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 02/07/20 4:58:44 PM #3: |
And thats why the GOP voted like they did They know what Trump is...they just care more about themselves.
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UnfairRepresent 02/07/20 5:00:00 PM #4: |
Crono99 posted...
Damn that's intense. Maybe Romney is planning to run for president again and is hoping that despite the current climate Trump will eventually fall out of favor with conservatives and he'll be able to showcase himself as standing up to Trump? Romney is in this 70s And now conservatives hate him He isn't going to be president. He just doesn't give a fuck anymore whether or not the party hates him. He has at best like 20 years left to live. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 02/07/20 5:01:39 PM #5: |
He went against the cult, so they want him dead.
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UnfairRepresent 02/07/20 5:02:41 PM #6: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
He went against the cult, so they want him dead. And this isn't even hyperbole v_v That's the sad part. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 02/07/20 5:04:40 PM #7: |
I do believe that if McCain was still alive, there would be more Republicans voting to oust him. Not many, but enough to change the vote.
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Zikten 02/07/20 5:10:54 PM #8: |
JuanCarlos1 posted...
And thats why the GOP voted like they did They know what Trump is...they just care more about themselves.I heard it best from some dude on CNN interviewed. he basically said that Trump has sway over his followers and uses them as attack dogs against his enemies in the GOP. any republican that stands up to him, gets punished by having Trump tell his people to not vote for them. so everyone is scared to fight back because they know Trump can ruin their political career. in the GOP, favor with Trump is all that matters ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 02/07/20 5:12:24 PM #9: |
Trump has started his retaliation spree
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cmiller4642 02/07/20 5:13:29 PM #10: |
Trump and his supporters are dangerous
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Odoylerules 02/07/20 5:18:49 PM #11: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
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Odoylerules 02/07/20 5:26:44 PM #12: |
To add to this. The Vindman guy who was part of the whole drama was "escorted from the white house as revenge"
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creativerealms 02/07/20 5:30:37 PM #13: |
Crono99 posted...
Damn that's intense. Maybe Romney is planning to run for president again and is hoping that despite the current climate Trump will eventually fall out of favor with conservatives and he'll be able to showcase himself as standing up to Trump?Who would vote for Romney? There are not enough Mormons out there. He won't win over any democrats or republicans. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 02/07/20 5:44:33 PM #14: |
Odoylerules posted...
To add to this. The Vindman guy who was part of the whole drama was "escorted from the white house as revenge"took his brother out,too. --- IGN: Sun FC: 0061-0132-7564 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YallNeedJe5u5 02/07/20 5:52:05 PM #15: |
Did Mitt even speak out about the Mormon Americans who were murdered in Mexico?
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glitteringfairy 02/07/20 5:57:47 PM #16: |
FUCK ROMNEY
His ass is grass career wise. I hope he never wanted to get reelected. --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot? V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://i.imgtc.com/lyRboFN.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YallNeedJe5u5 02/07/20 5:58:21 PM #17: |
glitteringfairy posted...
FUCK ROMNEY Hes probably gunning for a job at CNN or MSNBC. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 02/07/20 6:09:09 PM #18: |
glitteringfairy posted...
FUCK ROMNEY Look at this Trumpster. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 02/07/20 6:16:01 PM #19: |
DirkDiggles posted...
Look at this Trumpster. --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot? V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://i.imgtc.com/lyRboFN.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tired-Insomniac 02/07/20 6:22:05 PM #20: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
In a political sense, he is ostracized. He is excommunicated. He has lost all credibility. He should hire lots of security guards -- I don't wish him any physical harm, but people are furious! said Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, who already disinvited Romney from the popular CPAC convention this month. For fuck's sake, he still agrees politically with the GOP, big fucking deal that he chose country over party for one vote. Shit like this is just further proof that Trumpism is a legitimate cult. --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 02/07/20 6:54:57 PM #21: |
YallNeedJe5u5 posted...
Hes probably gunning for a job at CNN or MSNBC.Nope they won't take him. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/07/20 7:01:02 PM #22: |
Tired-Insomniac posted...
For some reason beyond my understanding, Conservatives have gone all in on Trump. There is no GOP policy or conservative viewpoints anymore. Only blindly supporting everything Trump does including crimes and blindly opposing anything critical of Trump whatsoever. All for Trump. A giant fat silver spoon fed moron... I cannot comprehend it but literally tens of millions of people lap it up lovingly. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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glitteringfairy 02/07/20 7:03:52 PM #23: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
For some reason beyond my understanding, Conservatives have gone all in on Trump.Right here buddy --- "How come you can believe in God but not Bigfoot? V-E-G-Y https://imgur.com/AqR3aeX https://imgur.com/vvuUXpp https://i.imgtc.com/lyRboFN.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Odoylerules 02/07/20 7:34:27 PM #24: |
more violent trump supporters
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