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on SNES using the retranslation patch. Just saved Suzies pet

without spoilers, is there anything I should know? Missable items, cools side quests, tips, etc?

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The only one I can think of for where you are in the story is when you enter the fight in the Coliseum, you'll get an advance payment for your services. Go and deposit it at the bank immediately, or else you'll lose it via story reasons. Also, after the fight, you'll be prompted with a story event. Press up on the controller and hold it there until the scene is done. You'll understand what I mean when you get there.

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There's a giant side quest throughout the game where you're able to upgrade your hideout. It will be awesome and I don't want to spoil it. I'd recommend using a spoiler free guide.

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discodancer77 posted...

on SNES using the retranslation patch. Just saved Suzies pet

without spoilers, is there anything I should know? Missable items, cools side quests, tips, etc?

In the Colliseum City, spend all your money. Then when Rand the horse-man asks for all your money, say yes. It's the 2nd city in the game, that's how you'll know when it is.

Other than that...just enjoy the encounter rate. It's fucking insane in that game.

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Remember save the prisoner.

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There's a lot of missable villagers and some are needed to get the good ending.

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You guys are talking about shit that's well into the game. Basically, to get the best ending in the game, you need to flag 2 events and have 2 special people join you. One of the two is hidden behind a bookshelf in Gantz (Guntz? Can't remember), and the other is part of one of the last storyline events in the game. You need to rescue him.

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Alucard188 posted...

You guys are talking about shit that's well into the game. Basically, to get the best ending in the game, you need to flag 2 events and have 2 special people join you. One of the two is hidden behind a bookshelf in Gantz (Guntz? Can't remember), and the other is part of one of the last storyline events in the game. You need to rescue him.

You also need to not recruit some people because only one person can occupy a given position and if you recruit the wrong person you can't recruit the right person later.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

You also need to not recruit some people because only one person can occupy a given position and if you recruit the wrong person you can't recruit the right person later.

Those people have no bearing on the ending of the game. The only thing they do is provide shops and other features for you to access at your leisure.

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-The first style of house is best.
-Cure 2 is the better reward and on Nina.
-Get chop chop on Ryu.
-Get Secret Character ASAP and you win!

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More like Breath of Missables

amirite?

Bow or Rand or Bow and Rand. Their healing is great and attack power is good enough.

Fuck Katts fragile.....and nina...

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discodancer77 posted...

on SNES using the retranslation patch. Just saved Suzies pet

without spoilers, is there anything I should know? Missable items, cools side quests, tips, etc?

yes, an entire event with a certain town is missable and you get good items/equipment if you make the right choices. i watched a let's play to know what to do.

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Alucard188 posted...

Those people have no bearing on the ending of the game. The only thing they do is provide shops and other features for you to access at your leisure.

Right the finer details of that stuff is lost to my memory.

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Jean and Sten and Spar are so middle of the road. At least all of their shamans have some unique abilities but still.

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Lairen posted...

Bow or Rand or Bow and Rand. Their healing is great and attack power is good enough.

Fuck Katts fragile.....and nina...

Devil Katt is fucking boss

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Devil Katt is fucking boss

Still fragile. Not worth not using tank Bow IMO. And then you can use Rat rand and be tanky as all hell...

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Lairen posted...

Bow or Rand or Bow and Rand. Their healing is great and attack power is good enough.

Fuck Katts fragile.....and nina...

Rand is too slow. Way too slow.

Bow and Kat and Spar

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Get cure 2 by leaving at least one villager in the well. Renew (a revive spell) is the reward you get for saving them all and is much less useful in this game, especially with how the shaman fusions work. You lose fusion at critical or death and is much preferable to have the healing spell.

Oh, don't sleep on Spar when you get him. He has one of the earliest shamanized forms in the game, and it's kind of potent. Spar arrives at a time when you're kind of lacking for suitable healers, so his support and healing is nice this time.

On that note, don't leave characters too far behind in levels, as the game is bad about forecasting when you need party members for specific parts of the game. You'll need Spar and Sten in your party around the mid part of the game, so don't leave them underleveled. You'll also need Rand in your party towards the late game, but this shouldn't be an issue, as he's one of the more popular party members.

Lairen posted...

Bow or Rand or Bow and Rand. Their healing is great and attack power is good enough.

Fuck Katts fragile.....and nina...

My final party usually consists of Ryu, Shamanized Nina, Shamanized Katt, and Bleu.

On that note, the retranslation patch uses the original Japanese names, but we're all using their Western release ones.

Ryu = hero
Bow = Boche
Katt = Rinpoo
Tapeta = Jean
Aspar = Spar

The rest ought to be the same.


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Weird, I remember playing a translated BoF2 that had Ryu, Bow, Katt, Jean and Spar as names. But that was 18 years ago.

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Ryu, Bleu, shaman bow and rand just tank the game.

Though using Bleu breaks the game anyways....

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Ryu = hero
Bow = Boche
Katt = Rinpoo
Tapeta = Jean
Aspar = Spar

thanks for that^

i just did the coliseum part and me and Rin have to go find the bat-lady still. Rand and Bosch are at Neros house for now. Gonna play some more tonight. Also, about how long is the game?

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Bat ladys the most and least important character in the game. Her conclusion is very weak imo.....

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Lairen posted...

Bat ladys the most and least important character in the game. Her conclusion is very weak imo.....

One of the things I wish they built on further.

discodancer77 posted...

i just did the coliseum part and me and Rin have to go find the bat-lady still. Rand and Bosch are at Neros house for now. Gonna play some more tonight. Also, about how long is the game?

Dunno. 25 hours? 30? Can't remember.


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One of the things I wish they built on further.

They DID build on it further - the American translation is just so bad that you miss out entire plot points and story because it is broken and incomprehensible from start to end.

No, seriously - Breath of Fire 2 for SNES is perhaps the worst translation I've ever played in my 31 years of living.

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AFrench2 posted...

One of the things I wish they built on further.

They DID build on it further - the American translation is just so bad that you miss out entire plot points and story because it is broken and incomprehensible from start to end.

No, seriously - Breath of Fire 2 for SNES is perhaps the worst translation I've ever played in my 31 years of living.

good thing Im using the fan retranslation! I love the font all these SNES translations have btw. So crisp and clean.

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The thing I take issue with is purely aesthetic. I loved the maroon purple colour of the windows in the original. The retranslation uses blue. I don't like it as much.

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Alucard188 posted...

The thing I take issue with is purely aesthetic. I loved the maroon purple colour of the windows in the original. The retranslation uses blue. I don't like it as much.

the original translation would tack like 5 words per text-box, so small conversations would take about 10 text boxes. And the english was all awful and made no sense.

It was bad

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Just recruited Sten the monkey dude in Wyndia. Its the same Wyndia as the last game! Cool!

speaking of BoF 1, I thought it was mediocre as hell. Obviously in respects to the time it was released, it was probably fresh, but having played it like a year or two ago, I consider it basically Generic RPG, The Game

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discodancer77 posted...

Generic RPG, The Game

Overall, yeah. But the vignettes that you traveled through had some high points. It's one of the few RPGs where your party has one legit human and everyone else is a different sort of animal-human.

There's MC changes with both Nina and Gobi for brief spells.

Battle system is pretty basic, Karn is there to just consume most of your party, healing abilities getting priority in battle and items being spammable AF turn most fights into a joke.

I put it on the same tier as Lufia 1 or Paladins Quest :\
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philsov posted...

I put it on the same tier as Lufia 1 or Paladins Quest :\

I still love Lufia 1, though. I still hear the music in my head from time to time, and its ending was the first true bitter sweet one I'd experienced.

discodancer77 posted...

speaking of BoF 1, I thought it was mediocre as hell. Obviously in respects to the time it was released, it was probably fresh, but having played it like a year or two ago, I consider it basically Generic RPG, The Game

You're definitely not wrong on this. There weren't too many RPGs of its calibre back then, so it was a relative breath of fresh air. It gets to be a bit of a slog towards the mid-to-late game.

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philsov posted...

I put it on the same tier as Lufia 1

i'd rethink that.

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You guys are saying games from 1993/1994 are "generic as hell" as if you're not speaking from 30 years in the future...

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AFrench2 posted...

You guys are saying games from 1993/1994 are "generic as hell" as if you're not speaking from 30 years in the future...

Even in the context of 1992, there was nothing special about Breath of Fire. It was the first game I played that featured a full cast of anthropomorphic people, but that's it. I still loved it.

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Uh, in the context of 1992 the only other good SNES rpgs were FF2, secret of mana, and link to the past...and breath of fire was a good choice after you beat those 3.

Just to give you an idea - some of the ugliest and shittiest looking SNES games came out AFTER Breath of Fire. 7th Saga looks like a release SNES title and plays like shit, and yet came out in 1993.

Again, there were 3 other options on the SNES at the time.

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Lufia 1 also looked like shit and was so bad that your dudes attacked the same enemy spot even if you killed them beforehand - like Final Fantasy 1 on NES.

Only 2 games I know of that were that garbage...and 1 of them had an excuse as an NES title when RPG video games was not a thing.

EDIT: Lufia came out in 1993 after BoF was my point...kinda forgot to make it.

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****Obviously in respects to the time it was released****
geez

havent really played too much after getting Sten, tried exploring the world map a bit but mostly have been grinding due to the high encounter rate. Am I missing anything with that circus? I saw the Grassman who I assume is supposed to be a party member eventually

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No, the circus plays a part after you get the ability to travel further than your legs will take you. Don't mind it for now.

TOLD YOU the encounter rate is insane. Just wait. Wait until you start using shaman forms and have to go back to town every 10 minutes because Katt's HP is like that of a small baby...

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You can't really do anything about that yet. Just have to continue along the story.

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Can someone help me out and tell me what each characters special skill does?

like Ryu has Guts, which seems to heal him a measly amount, and Bosch had Snipe, which supposedly worked like an all-or-nothing critical hit. Lin/Katt has Taunt which lowers the targets damage output for the turn

can I get a list of all those skills?

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discodancer77 posted...

Can someone help me out and tell me what each characters special skill does?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/563530-breath-of-fire-ii/faqs/56316

ctrl+F "guts" and it'll give you the list
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Don't read that too deeply, TC. It contains a fairly significant contextual based spoiler for Nina's late game.

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I just beat that giant crab thingy and am now saving villagers. Im supposed to let one die to get the apparently better reward, right?

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Stens attack animation is so goddamn clean

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discodancer77 posted...

I just beat that giant crab thingy and am now saving villagers. Im supposed to let one die to get the apparently better reward, right?

Yes. Cure 2 is a better reward than Renew.

All right, you're going to get to the next phase in the story soon. I believe the re-translation handles this better, but when Ray asks you to take him someplace, he means back to The Hideout.

You're going to meet a new character soon. Don't do what he says immediately. Instead, go to the other side of the waterfall on the other side of the landmass, and enter the cave. The Wildcat Restaurant is here, and you want to do exactly everything they say. When they ask how you want your meat cooked, pick rare.

After you're done, you'll fight a boss. After beating him, you'll talk to him in the next room. Forgive him, and he'll teach you a new spell, which costs 0AP to use. A lot of people give this attack to Nina, because it's a non elemental attack, and stronger than her regular attacks.

Once you've done what the character requested, you'll be able to use his abilities for a little while. Don't go to Simafort just yet. Instead, go to the lake on top of the plateau beside the witches tower, and try to go down the waterfall. You'll get a new slate of abilities for Ryu.

One more thing. Once you're done in the Witch's Tower, climb back up from the left side of the first floor, as opposed to the right. You'll find your second shaman here.

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My guys are like lv 12-14, the wildcat does like 100 damage an attack and one-shots everyone. You sure Im supposed to be doing this now?

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discodancer77 posted...

My guys are like lv 12-14, the wildcat does like 100 damage an attack and one-shots everyone. You sure Im supposed to be doing this now?

What row is everyone in? Who is in your party?

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Standard formation, Ryu Rand Sten Lin for now. Also, is it worth playing around with the other formations? (Scatter, defensive, parallel)

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