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skermac
02/27/20 6:17:08 PM
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Why do they care so much about morals, you would think they would do what they want whenever they want

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Smackems
02/27/20 6:20:16 PM
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Because we were brought up on those morals probably whether we believe in the god(s) that bestowed them or not

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DespondentDeity
02/27/20 6:21:23 PM
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Morality is independent of divinity, this has been known for millennia.

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Bokothechoco2
02/27/20 6:24:12 PM
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Free will is a myth. Religion is a joke. We are all pawns, controlled by something greater:

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/27/20 6:25:17 PM
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If atheists don't believe in God, what do they say during sex?

Checkmate.

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specialkid8
02/27/20 6:26:12 PM
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skermac posted...
Why do they care so much about morals, you would think they would do what they want whenever they want
They do. And the list of things they want to do include "Not commiting violent crime or being an asshole to people".
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Irony
02/27/20 6:26:20 PM
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If religious people believe religion gives you good morals why are so many religiius people immoral?

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Strider102
02/27/20 6:27:09 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
If atheists don't believe in God, what do they say during sex?

Checkmate.

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boxington
02/27/20 6:27:36 PM
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do you only care about morality because you believe in some kind of god?

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Lost_All_Senses
02/27/20 6:28:04 PM
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If you're only being good because religion then you're kind of a fraud. Not the same as religion leading someone to actually do better tho.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/27/20 6:28:05 PM
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Irony posted...
If religious people believe religion gives you good morals why are so many religiius people immoral?

Those religious people believe they're "saving" others by acting immorally.

Not making this shit up.

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dib153
02/27/20 6:28:47 PM
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When a religious person does a good deed its with an ulterior motive

When an atheist does a good deed it's simply for the sake of it

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boxington
02/27/20 6:29:28 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath
02/27/20 6:29:52 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
If atheists don't believe in God, what do they say during sex?

Checkmate.

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Lost_All_Senses
02/27/20 6:31:18 PM
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dib153 posted...
When a religious person does a good deed its with an ulterior motive

When an atheist does a good deed it's simply for the sake of it

Strongly disagree with this tho. Way too black and white. There are way more motives for doing good deeds than just getting into heaven. Like getting good publicity and because it ultimately comes back to you. Even if it comes back to you is just in the form of mental security.

I might be splitting hairs from the intended purpose of that post tho

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Airhammy
02/27/20 6:31:38 PM
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ssjevot
02/27/20 6:32:00 PM
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The main reason I think religion might be worth keeping around is weird sociopaths who say the only thing keeping them from being evil is fear of divine punishment and/or desire for divine reward. Though Japan seems to do well without religion, so I am not sure how much of a problem it would be.

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kriztov1
02/27/20 6:32:19 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Checkmate.
It's true, I say "checkmate" all the damn time when I'm making whoopee.

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Lorenzo_2003
02/27/20 6:51:01 PM
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Airhammy posted...

By that logic, are you really a good person if you expect to get something out of it that you will enjoy? That person also sounds selfish and suspect, which is what I believe they are criticizing the religious person for.

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fire_bolt
02/27/20 6:53:07 PM
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I had to listen to two Christians discuss that the Corona Virus outbreak is God's way of punishing China for persecuting Christians today at work. But yeah, we're the immoral ones.
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Lorenzo_2003
02/27/20 7:03:30 PM
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fire_bolt posted...
I had to listen to two Christians discuss that the Corona Virus outbreak is God's way of punishing China for persecuting Christians today at work. But yeah, we're the immoral ones.

I dont think Christians (as a generalization) would consider any act, including genocidal acts like the Flood or Egyptian Plagues, to be immoral because its coming from God. The thinking is that God is beyond humanitys judgment and also all-loving and acting according to a divine plan, so all acts are basically working as intended.

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Wewillrocku
02/27/20 7:06:32 PM
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skermac posted...
Why do they care so much about morals, you would think they would do what they want whenever they want
lol, perhaps skermac would think so.

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Kami_no_Kami
02/27/20 7:17:44 PM
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Those who dont believe we will be rewarded with eternal reward do good or at least not bad because they are rewarded by the way it makes them feel or by gaining some sort of power (political power, partnerships, tax write-offs, looking good to other people, not going to prison, etc).

Youre right that if there were no positives to helping other people, no one would do it, but thats a pointless hypothetical because there are pluses, both religious and not.
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hockeybub89
02/27/20 7:20:23 PM
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I don't get why atheism is considered selfish. There's plenty of tangible things to live for beyond your self. There's plenty of selfish deity believers anyway.

If a shot in the dark that some invisible being will reward you after death is the only thing keeping you from being little more than a savage beast, then you have some serious issues.

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Prestoff
02/27/20 7:30:53 PM
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Bad take TC.

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skermac
02/27/20 9:12:02 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
Morality is independent of divinity, this has been known for millennia.

laws are bssed on morals which are derived from religion, also i was raised with morals but some I dont agree with so i do my own thing

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skermac
02/27/20 9:13:12 PM
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Wewillrocku posted...
lol, perhaps skermac would think so.

yes i would think so

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Wewillrocku
02/27/20 9:21:52 PM
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laws are bssed on morals which are derived from religion, also i was raised with morals but some I dont agree with so i do my own thing
how about that morality of god creating the universe and lying to his people for hundreds of years until he finally revealed he wasn't one god, he was three in one? it sure is weird to lie about that.

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fire_bolt
02/27/20 9:56:31 PM
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skermac posted...
laws are bssed on morals which are derived from religion,


It doesn't take religion to tell you hurting people is wrong. Just basic human empathy that most people start to feel as children. The pain and loss people feel in life makes them aware of how others feel pain and loss as well. So you treat others with the respect and dignity that you want.

EDIT: This is why racism, classism, and any other way of seeing other people as less than you is so dangerous. It is easy to put aside that empathy for something you consider little more than an animal. It is much harder to be evil to someone you see as an equal.
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Guide
02/27/20 10:14:09 PM
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skermac posted...
laws are bssed on morals which are derived from religion, also i was raised with morals but some I dont agree with so i do my own thing

Morals aren't derived from religion tho

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skermac
02/27/20 11:19:44 PM
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Guide posted...
Morals aren't derived from religion tho

Guide posted...
Morals aren't derived from religion tho

Guide posted...
Morals aren't derived from religion tho

Guide posted...
Morals aren't derived from religion tho

actually they are


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boxington
02/27/20 11:24:13 PM
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different species of animals have also been observed to have some kinda sense of morality, and idk if that was derived from any religion

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Lonestar2000
02/27/20 11:26:01 PM
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What a fucking stupid topic, try harder next time.

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Jagr_68
02/27/20 11:34:12 PM
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It's quite simple really.

Because god isn't a real thing.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
02/27/20 11:36:45 PM
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Morality is not a religious conceit.

Morality, and morals, is actually a debate and argument from the early days of philosophy. Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates spoke at length about morality, and even back then there was debate about morality and the roots of it.

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Dragonblade01
02/27/20 11:37:27 PM
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skermac posted...
actually they are
Morality comes from being a social species.
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Wewillrocku
02/27/20 11:38:02 PM
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confucius and laozi would kick jesus' ass in a debate.

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ssjevot
02/27/20 11:42:38 PM
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Confucianism is a good example of something that provided morals for a lot of countries independent of their religions or lack thereof.

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