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Squall28
03/10/20 12:21:21 PM
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Others: That's not what we're saying.
Democrats: Yes it is dummy! *Loses another election*

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MeltyAlert
03/10/20 12:22:01 PM
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10/10 topic

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solosnake
03/10/20 12:23:28 PM
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Democracy is pretty much finished anyway.

When you end up with Trump vs Biden, you know its over

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Were_Wyrm
03/10/20 12:24:49 PM
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I'll need to get this updated for 2020

https://i.imgur.com/qZwHBel.jpg

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Phantom_Nook
03/10/20 12:26:40 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
I'll need to get this updated for 2020

https://i.imgur.com/qZwHBel.jpg

wat
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HBOSS
03/10/20 12:29:49 PM
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the people have spoken.

they want the government to work hard. so these 2 party system fights each other. same coin different sides, same elected officals that shuts down government every year. same elected officials that publicly attack each other when they can to look better for their voters. think whats happening now. if the sides were switched, would anything be changed?

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SquantoZ
03/10/20 12:30:54 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
I'll need to get this updated for 2020

https://i.imgur.com/qZwHBel.jpg

Holy context, Batman!

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Veggeta X
03/10/20 12:31:20 PM
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Both sides do this.

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MC_BatCommander
03/10/20 12:36:43 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Both sides do this.

Yeah but it's okay when tc's side does it

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Lost_All_Senses
03/10/20 12:37:49 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
Both sides do this.

90% of shit said about either side applies to both sides.

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_Rinku_
03/10/20 12:39:09 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
I'll need to get this updated for 2020

https://i.imgur.com/qZwHBel.jpg
"DAE both sides are bad I'm such a cool, logical centrist"

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 12:41:42 PM
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Centrism is the Fedora-tipping of politics.

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Bananana
03/10/20 12:42:31 PM
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Boy the first two posts ITT are of legendarily bad quality

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 12:42:47 PM
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Also, I like how this topic implies that Republicans don't also constantly misrepresent or lie about their opponent for political gain.

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Malfunction
03/10/20 12:42:51 PM
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I don't think that's a centrist meme
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solosnake
03/10/20 12:43:37 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Centrism is the Fedora-tipping of politics.
Has nothing to do with centrism. There is 0 reason for party politics to even exist. People should vote based on the candidate, not the color of their party.

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FoldingProjects
03/10/20 12:44:06 PM
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Ivynn
03/10/20 12:47:29 PM
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Politics in a nutshell

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BakonBitz
03/10/20 12:50:02 PM
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solosnake posted...
Has nothing to do with centrism. There is 0 reason for party politics to even exist. People should vote based on the candidate, not the color of their party.
This, honestly. We probably could've had some good Presidents if it weren't for the party system.

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IShall_Run_Amok
03/10/20 1:10:31 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Also, I like how this topic implies that Republicans don't also constantly misrepresent or lie about their opponent for political gain.
Its the reason they are able to succeed, in fact. TC has absolutely no case.

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 1:13:14 PM
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solosnake posted...
Has nothing to do with centrism. There is 0 reason for party politics to even exist. People should vote based on the candidate, not the color of their party.
If you think there is "0 reason for party politics to exist" then you literally have no idea how politics have worked for 300 years

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Antifar
03/10/20 1:18:43 PM
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Parties allow like-minded people to coordinate rather than a free for all where 4 left-wing candidates lose to the sole conservative who gets 35 percent of the vote.
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CyricZ
03/10/20 1:19:55 PM
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Gamers give up

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Balrog0
03/10/20 1:26:02 PM
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Antifar posted...
Parties allow like-minded people to coordinate rather than a free for all where 4 left-wing candidates lose to the sole conservative who gets 35 percent of the vote.

You'd like to think so at least

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TheMikh
03/10/20 1:27:46 PM
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solosnake posted...
Has nothing to do with centrism. There is 0 reason for party politics to even exist. People should vote based on the candidate, not the color of their party.
people should be voting on issues, not for candidates that claim to represent their interests with respect to these issues

i'd also go so far as to say people should only vote on things that directly affect themselves

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Keith_Valentine
03/10/20 1:28:57 PM
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Omg tc, you slayed em. Rekt rekt rekt
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GallisOTK
03/10/20 1:43:09 PM
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What a horribly low-effort trolling attempt
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ASithLord7
03/10/20 1:45:22 PM
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TheMikh posted...
i'd also go so far as to say people should only vote on things that directly affect themselves
We know, because youre the prime example of menlightened centrist who doesnt give a crap about anyone else and is out for himself only

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RX725
03/10/20 1:54:43 PM
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I am surprised they are allowing this topic to exists, we all know how the mods are here.
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Veggeta X
03/10/20 1:58:41 PM
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RX725 posted...
I am surprised they are allowing this topic to exists, we all know how the mods are here.
A lot of alts today that leans left. Wonder who you all are.

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Squall28
03/10/20 2:08:51 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Also, I like how this topic implies that Republicans don't also constantly misrepresent or lie about their opponent for political gain.

I'm not a Republican. I don't imply things for them.


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Veggeta X
03/10/20 2:11:00 PM
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No you only imply things for Democrats.

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 2:13:30 PM
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TheMikh posted...
people should be voting on issues, not for candidates that claim to represent their interests with respect to these issues

i'd also go so far as to say people should only vote on things that directly affect themselves
The average voter has nowhere near the expertise, time, or access to resources to educate themselves on most of the issues that need to be voted on. This is literally the basic, fundamental reason that representation exists. Representatives are supposed to be intelligent people capable of representing their constituents interests on a variety of subjects with the assistance of lobbyists and assistants to inform them on the specifics.

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Squall28
03/10/20 2:22:26 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Representatives are supposed to be intelligent people capable of representing their constituents interests on a variety of subjects

That didn't go as planned.

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 2:24:42 PM
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Squall28 posted...
That didn't go as planned.
Well, voters are suppose to have a good sense of which candidate will best represent their interests. If you think our Democracy is broken with the general crapshoot in quality we get from our Reps., just wait until voters can fuck up our country directly through Direct Democracy. We'd be bankrupt in a decade.

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TheMikh
03/10/20 2:39:31 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
The average voter has nowhere near the expertise, time, or access to resources to educate themselves on most of the issues that need to be voted on. This is literally the basic, fundamental reason that representation exists. Representatives are supposed to be intelligent people capable of representing their constituents interests on a variety of subjects with the assistance of lobbyists and assistants to inform them on the specifics.
if people do not know what directly affects them, should they be voting on matters - or representatives with a position on such matters - they do not understand in the first place, when it's going to affect other people

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Pogo_Marimo
03/10/20 2:42:54 PM
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TheMikh posted...
if people do not know what directly affects them, should they be voting on matters - or representatives with a position on such matters - they do not understand in the first place, when it's going to affect other people
How do you define what does or doesn't "affect" someone? Do you realize that every single government initiative comes out of a single budget? The allotment of funds to something that doesn't theoretically directly affect them is still depriving them of potential funds for something that would affect them. Everything is connected. Life is complex. Governments even more so.

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TheMikh
03/10/20 8:45:47 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
How do you define what does or doesn't "affect" someone?
that which directly affects the person of individuals or their immediate families, their communities, or their livelihood

Do you realize that every single government initiative comes out of a single budget? The allotment of funds to something that doesn't theoretically directly affect them is still depriving them of potential funds for something that would affect them. Everything is connected. Life is complex. Governments even more so.
perhaps the full scope of all the problems affecting all individuals are far too complicated for a small group of people to manage the funding and logistics of on everyone's behalf, and simultaneously, there is a temptation to siphon from that pool which this small group of people and their cronies gladly indulge in while abusing other privileges of authority

life is complex and everything is connected, but that does not mean that a model with a central point of failure and fault is the only model of governance

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