Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 282: Cancel Culture

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Will progressives trade a Serious Loss of Life if it guaranteed Trump loses in November? Serious q

Fuck no
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Jakyl25 posted...

Fuck no

Depends who you ask.

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Corrik7 posted...

Depends who you ask.

He asked us
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Jakyl25 posted...

He asked us

He asked if progressives would. He didn't ask if you would.

I can tell you now that some progressives would because "it is the lesser of 2 evils" or "it is a lesser loss of life" or "we must defeat fascism and racism at all costs".

I just told you how earlier a "progressive" said they hoped all the CEOs and everyone else on the stage at the press conference got the disease.

So, it again, depends on who you ask. And not the question he asked you of about progressives in general but depending on which progressives you specifically asked.

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Corrik7 posted...

He asked if progressives would. He didn't ask if you would.

I can tell you now that some progressives would because "it is the lesser of 2 evils" or "it is a lesser loss of life" or "we must defeat fascism and racism at all costs".

I just told you how earlier a "progressive" said they hoped all the CEOs and everyone else on the stage at the press conference got the disease.

So, it again, depends on who you ask. And not the question he asked you of about progressives in general but depending on which progressives you specifically asked.

I think in general conservatives are more likely to think in terms of lesser of two evils. That is fortunate too, as otherwise Hillary would probably be president right now.

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Corrik7 posted...

He asked if progressives would. He didn't ask if you would.

I can tell you now that some progressives would because "it is the lesser of 2 evils" or "it is a lesser loss of life" or "we must defeat fascism and racism at all costs".

I just told you how earlier a "progressive" said they hoped all the CEOs and everyone else on the stage at the press conference got the disease.

So, it again, depends on who you ask. And not the question he asked you of about progressives in general but depending on which progressives you specifically asked.

I dont understand that view at all

Massively fucking up a crisis response is exactly one of peoples worst fears about the Trump presidency.

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https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1238587369214939143?s=21

Thank god for Nancy Pelosi

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Daaaaamn Nancy.

Well worth suffering through whichever idiots try to give Trump credit for this.

LordoftheMorons posted...

I dont understand that view at all

Massively fucking up a crisis response is exactly one of peoples worst fears about the Trump presidency.

Well, the same people that have that view are the ones that hope the stock market crashes so Trump would lose re-election (depending on serious loss of life's definition in your case - this could cause some). And also hope Trump dies in office or is assassinated.

The people with those views have very extremist views predicated with getting the result they want no matter the means cuz the ends justify it in their mind.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

!!!

https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/1238587369214939143?s=21

Thank god for Nancy Pelosi

I wonder what give and take existed between Republicans and the Dems on making this deal.

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I'm thanking Tucker and whoever else changed Trump's mind again.

Swear to God it's dealing with a child with him on to not be stupid. Good that it makes him malleable, but so frustrating that it has to keep happening.

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Kinglicious posted...

I'm thanking Tucker and whoever else changed Trump's mind again.

Swear to God it's dealing with a child with him on to not be stupid. Good that it makes him malleable, but so frustrating that it has to keep happening.

On what? Trump has been for the sick leave. It was the other details of the deal there was disagreement on.

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i'd think it was not so much tucker as it was even trump eventually not being able to deny the reality of the coronavirus not being neglible.

then again, it's trump so maybe it was tucker. who knows what goes on in his head.

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Corrik7 posted...

And also hope Trump dies in office or is assassinated.

Hey now I never said anything about my opinion on this

And I never will
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with trump i sooner assume he'll take tucker's word over literally anybody in the house.
as for ignoring reality, the only reality i believe he cares for is the one where he's popular. the man is a narcissistic and has an ego so he will jump to whatever policy maintains his base happy, has people praise him, and people he like say he did a good job.

very childish approach but damned if it doesn't explain the past 4 years.
in fairness, i'll add Ivanka to the mix considering she also was in direct contact with people who had the virus. if Ivanka wants it, she'll get it.

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Wanglicious posted...

with trump i sooner assume he'll take tucker's word over literally anybody in the house.
as for ignoring reality, the only reality i believe he cares for is the one where he's popular. the man is a narcissistic and has an ego so he will jump to whatever policy maintains his base happy, has people praise him, and people he like say he did a good job.

very childish approach but damned if it doesn't explain the past 4 years.
in fairness, i'll add Ivanka to the mix considering she also was in direct contact with people who had the virus. if Ivanka wants it, she'll get it.

She has been advocating for paid maternity leave for men and women for awhile now with no dice.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Hey now I never said anything about my opinion on this

And I never will

You'll say it.

You just won't type it.

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Corrik7 posted...

She has been advocating for paid maternity leave for men and women for awhile now with no dice.

eh? didn't she get that in the recent spending package for all federal workers?

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Wanglicious posted...

eh? didn't she get that in the recent spending package for all federal workers?

She wanted it across the board.

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ahh. there is a limit trump has on his policies that does tend to be a little weird: he's got a particularly conservative bend when it comes to federal and state government policies. and i'm quite fine with that really, hell the coronavirus escalation may even be due to state governments stepping up and making decisions themselves. i can't think of a better example for why a strong state - and even city - government is necessary than trump's handling here and it's something that can be agreed upon regardless of where you fall left to right. states' rights and a limited federal government may be traditionally conservative positions but with this reign you wouldn't think so.

edit: and yes i know it could be viewed as a more libertarian position than conservative one, though i don't think that's how it's traditionally been framed. i do prefer that style though since it crosses alignment.

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Wanglicious posted...

states' rights and a limited federal government may be traditionally conservative positions but with this reign you wouldn't think so.

Couldnt you say that of every Republican President since Reagan?
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Corrik7 posted...

And also hope Trump dies in office or is assassinated.

Dont confuse apathy towards his survival with want of his death.

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Wait did Trump misspeak AGAIN??

https://twitter.com/tomscocca/status/1238595383338700803?s=21
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Jakyl25 posted...

Wait did Trump misspeak AGAIN??

https://twitter.com/tomscocca/status/1238595383338700803?s=21

It's a company owned by alphabet, Google's parent company.

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I think the discrepancy is more the nationwide, not the company

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Just for the Bay Area
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https://mobile.twitter.com/google_comms/status/1238574670686928906

For now there.
Expansion after.

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When Trump said Very quickly, unlike websites of the past was that a DIRECT shot at Obamacare specifically? Lol
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Yes

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God that whole thing was a shitshow back then

Okay, clocks ticking Google!
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Jakyl25 posted...

When Trump said Very quickly, unlike websites of the past was that a DIRECT shot at Obamacare specifically? Lol

Of course. I got the reference immediately.

Wanglicious posted...

ahh. there is a limit trump has on his policies that does tend to be a little weird: he's got a particularly conservative bend when it comes to federal and state government policies. and i'm quite fine with that really, hell the coronavirus escalation may even be due to state governments stepping up and making decisions themselves. i can't think of a better example for why a strong state - and even city - government is necessary than trump's handling here and it's something that can be agreed upon regardless of where you fall left to right. states' rights and a limited federal government may be traditionally conservative positions but with this reign you wouldn't think so.

edit: and yes i know it could be viewed as a more libertarian position than conservative one, though i don't think that's how it's traditionally been framed. i do prefer that style though since it crosses alignment.

oh yeah, states' rights is often viewed as a libertarian thing but libertarians just use it as a stepping stone to more radical things because they realize the government isn't realistically just suddenly going to disappear. if the government would leave everything up to the states they wouldn't go "yay everything is perfect now!" then they'd advocate for county rights. they'd want the government to become more local and local until eventually every person is its own "government," which would be the libertarian ideal. (for some libertarians, anyway.)

but yeah, states' rights shouldn't be seen as a left/right thing. i'm quite left and i'm pretty neutral towards it. just because you're in favor of more local government doesn't mean you're against big government!

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238599369466753026

it always feels so disingenuous when trump talks about christianity.

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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1238598695274401794

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1238603402457812992?s=21

Tell that to Puerto Rico
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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1238598695274401794

So you mean there's no deal yet?

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1238603402457812992?s=21

Tell that to Puerto Rico

shots fired at us inferior non-americans :-/

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HeroicCrono posted...

So you mean there's no deal yet?

There's a deal between Pelosi and Mnuchin, who was negotiating on behalf of Trump. In a normal administration that would mean that the deal was final, but yeah with Trump you can't be sure.

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Trump has a habit of throwing fits and ending deals. No one will say anything on it til he gives approval.

LordoftheMorons posted...

There's a deal between Pelosi and Mnuchin, who was negotiating on behalf of Trump. In a normal administration that would mean that the deal was final, but yeah with Trump you can't be sure.

I think he is trying to get the Senate to earmark it with the payroll tax cut.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

There's a deal between Pelosi and Mnuchin, who was negotiating on behalf of Trump. In a normal administration that would mean that the deal was final, but yeah with Trump you can't be sure.

I didn't see a payroll tax cut, or something equivalent, so I'm not keen on it.

Update:

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1238608330463027201

Ugh please don't fuck this up

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1239650018832891905

whoops looks like you bought all that food for nothing wang

(wow we never 500'd this one)

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We didn't? How rude.

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we should, though.

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watch pandemic on netflix

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