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SmartMuffin 03/19/20 1:13:17 PM #451:	https://babylonbee.com/news/study-shows-50-of-conservatives-would-switch-to-socialism-for-a-six-pack-of-beer-and-a-pizza Factcheck: True. --- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - https://imgur.com/W66HUUy http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:935898517] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>https://babylonbee.com/news/study-shows-50-of-conservatives-would-switch-to-socialism-for-a-six-pack-of-beer-and-a-pizza Factcheck: True. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:13:33 PM #452:	It's truly incredible how effective Democrats can be when it comes to stopping the Left, even sacrificing their own lives two days ago to own us. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935898526] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>It's truly incredible how effective Democrats can be when it comes to stopping the Left, even sacrificing their own lives two days ago to own us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 03/19/20 1:17:10 PM #453:	xp1337 posted... This ended on Super Tuesday. Yep --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Spider-Man (PS4), Quantum Break (X1) <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:935898695] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>This ended on Super Tuesday.</quote>Yep </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 1:17:58 PM #454:	i mean even bernie sanders couldn't energize sanders voters to vote. that seems like a bigger issue. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935898734] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>i mean even bernie sanders couldn't energize sanders voters to vote. that seems like a bigger issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 03/19/20 1:18:49 PM #455:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... It's truly incredible how effective Democrats can be when it comes to stopping the Left, even sacrificing their own lives two days ago to own us. The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right. --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:935898771] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>It's truly incredible how effective Democrats can be when it comes to stopping the Left, even sacrificing their own lives two days ago to own us.</quote>The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:22:11 PM #456:	Not_an_Owl posted... The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right. I know we all love histrionics at times like this, but it simply isn't true. It is utterly bizarre to see rational people say stuff like this. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935898949] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Not_an_Owl posted... </cite> <quote>The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right.</quote> I know we all love histrionics at times like this, but it simply isn't true. It is utterly bizarre to see rational people say stuff like this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 1:24:41 PM #457:	The Democratic party as a whole has shifted way left in the last 4 years, but you know, they hate the left. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935899067] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>The Democratic party as a whole has shifted way left in the last 4 years, but you know, they hate the left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:24:54 PM #458:	xp1337 posted... i mean even bernie sanders couldn't energize sanders voters to vote. that seems like a bigger issue. By pure vote count, his voters were even more energized than in 2016! Not_an_Owl posted... The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right. It boils down to this. Bernie started strong as fuck, and it scared the party so bad they did the unprecedented act of having the guy who won Iowa drop out before Super Tuesday in order to rally around Joe. Bernie was on an island, and none of his "friends" (Warren, Tulsi, Yang, Steyer) threw him any support when it would have mattered. If you read Yang's statements, he pretty clearly feels bad about not supporting Bernie, but I'm guessing Joe offered him a seat at a table that he didn't want to risk. Who knows what's going on in Tulsi's head, she started as a huge Bernie supporter and then started firing off in all directions, choosing not to run for reelection, all just to back Biden in the end, a truly bizarre showing. Then there's Warren, and you all know how I feel there, just a crushing betrayal. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935899078] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>i mean even bernie sanders couldn't energize sanders voters to vote. that seems like a bigger issue.</quote> By pure vote count, his voters were even more energized than in 2016! Not_an_Owl posted... </cite> <quote>The Democratic Party hates and fears the Left more than it does the Right.</quote> It boils down to this. Bernie started strong as fuck, and it scared the party so bad they did the unprecedented act of having the guy who won Iowa drop out before Super Tuesday in order to rally around Joe. Bernie was on an island, and none of his "friends" (Warren, Tulsi, Yang, Steyer) threw him any support when it would have mattered. If you read Yang's statements, he pretty clearly feels bad about not supporting Bernie, but I'm guessing Joe offered him a seat at a table that he didn't want to risk. Who knows what's going on in Tulsi's head, she started as a huge Bernie supporter and then started firing off in all directions, choosing not to run for reelection, all just to back Biden in the end, a truly bizarre showing. Then there's Warren, and you all know how I feel there, just a crushing betrayal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:26:11 PM #459:	Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935899135] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 1:27:44 PM #460:	I think we get to say they've shifted way left because they're nominating the guy with a platform to the left of any previous nominee. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935899207] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>I think we get to say they've shifted way left because they're nominating the guy with a platform to the left of any previous nominee. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:29:13 PM #461:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP. He was, um, lying. All I see from Sanders supporters is "JOE BIDEN IS A LIAR HE NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH" but then this, which is most obvious lie the entire election cycle, they take as gospel. Sanders has absolutely, 100% driven the democratic party to the left since 2016. He has been a major voice in the party, has attracted new and energized members to congress to replace further right democrats, and caused major policy shifts within the democratic platform (and democratic base). You shouldn't minimize his contribution to the party just because he's losing (again). There is a reason Sanders caucuses with the dems and has been running with the democrats in presidential elections. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935899299] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP.</quote> He was, um, lying. All I see from Sanders supporters is "JOE BIDEN IS A LIAR HE NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH" but then this, which is most obvious lie the entire election cycle, they take as gospel. Sanders has absolutely, 100% driven the democratic party to the left since 2016. He has been a major voice in the party, has attracted new and energized members to congress to replace further right democrats, and caused major policy shifts within the democratic platform (and democratic base). You shouldn't minimize his contribution to the party just because he's losing (again). There is a reason Sanders caucuses with the dems and has been running with the democrats in presidential elections. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:29:25 PM #462:	How much of Joe's platform do you think he could actually recite? I don't think he believes or understands much of it based on that interview he gave where he said he's veto Medicare for All if it raised taxes. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935899312] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>How much of Joe's platform do you think he could actually recite? I don't think he believes or understands much of it based on that interview he gave where he said he's veto Medicare for All if it raised taxes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 03/19/20 1:29:56 PM #463:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP. No deal Joe! I'll take a Republican President with a Republican VP thank you very much. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:935899345] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Guys they're literally nominating the guy who in December, just 3 months ago, said he was open to a Republican VP. You don't get to say they "shifted way Left" when they're an arm's length from the GOP.</quote> No deal Joe! I'll take a Republican President with a Republican VP thank you very much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:30:31 PM #464:	I shouldn't generalize Sanders supporters that way. All I see from Sanders reddit supporters, I should say. I know 80% already say they voting for Biden in the general, so it is unfair to conflate the majority of his supporters with the loudest dissenters online. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935899371] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>I shouldn't generalize Sanders supporters that way. All I see from Sanders reddit supporters, I should say. I know 80% already say they voting for Biden in the general, so it is unfair to conflate the majority of his supporters with the loudest dissenters online. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:32:26 PM #465:	(And I'm not entirely convinced that the loudest, dumbest Sanders supporters online aren't just Republicans concern trolling from the Donald, considering they specifically bragged they would do so just months ago) --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935899465] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>(And I'm not entirely convinced that the loudest, dumbest Sanders supporters online aren't just Republicans concern trolling from the Donald, considering they specifically bragged they would do so just months ago) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:33:10 PM #466:	Suprak the Stud posted... He was, um, lying. All I see from Sanders supporters is "JOE BIDEN IS A LIAR HE NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH" but then this, which is most obvious lie the entire election cycle, they take as gospel. Come on dude, you replace Joe with Trump and Sanders with Dem and this is the exact same shit MAGA shitheads say when they're trying to defend Trump saying awful shit he actually believes. Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935899509] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote> He was, um, lying. All I see from Sanders supporters is "JOE BIDEN IS A LIAR HE NEVER TELLS THE TRUTH" but then this, which is most obvious lie the entire election cycle, they take as gospel.</quote> Come on dude, you replace Joe with Trump and Sanders with Dem and this is the exact same shit MAGA shitheads say when they're trying to defend Trump saying awful shit he actually believes. Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:37:11 PM #467:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... How much of Joe's platform do you think he could actually recite? I don't think he believes or understands much of it based on that interview he gave where he said he's veto Medicare for All if it raised taxes. All of it? I don't buy into the conspiracy theories that he is some drooling moron who is in late stage dementia. Like imagine if Biden had confused ebola with coronavirus three times in the debate. It was clearly a simple mistake by Sanders and meant nothing, but if Biden had done it the memes would've been all over the place. I'm not saying Biden is as sharp as he was 20 years ago, but all this "BIDEN IS ON HIS DEATHBED" nonsense is overblown. I have been as down on Biden's chances as anyone here (one of the main reasons I voted Sanders is I still think he has the best chance in Wisconsin in the general). And up until like a week ago, I was at about zero percent enthusiasm to vote for him. But now with Trump screwing up the response as badly as he has, I will absolutely be an enthusiastic Biden supporter. Well, "enthusiastic". I'm not going to spend the whole time moaning about him. Just like, 25%. At best. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935899689] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>How much of Joe's platform do you think he could actually recite? I don't think he believes or understands much of it based on that interview he gave where he said he's veto Medicare for All if it raised taxes.</quote> All of it? I don't buy into the conspiracy theories that he is some drooling moron who is in late stage dementia. Like imagine if Biden had confused ebola with coronavirus three times in the debate. It was clearly a simple mistake by Sanders and meant nothing, but if Biden had done it the memes would've been all over the place. I'm not saying Biden is as sharp as he was 20 years ago, but all this "BIDEN IS ON HIS DEATHBED" nonsense is overblown. I have been as down on Biden's chances as anyone here (one of the main reasons I voted Sanders is I still think he has the best chance in Wisconsin in the general). And up until like a week ago, I was at about zero percent enthusiasm to vote for him. But now with Trump screwing up the response as badly as he has, I will absolutely be an enthusiastic Biden supporter. Well, "enthusiastic". I'm not going to spend the whole time moaning about him. Just like, 25%. At best. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 1:40:58 PM #468:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018! He gave a paid speech where he said good things about a republican but it wasn't for campaign purposes. Better rip people apart for saying good things about people they shouldn't though(lol). <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935899855] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018!</quote>He gave a paid speech where he said good things about a republican but it wasn't for campaign purposes. Better rip people apart for saying good things about people they shouldn't though(lol). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:43:34 PM #469:	Suprak the Stud posted... Like imagine if Biden had confused ebola with coronavirus three times in the debate. It was clearly a simple mistake by Sanders and meant nothing, but if Biden had done it the memes would've been all over the place. I'm not saying Biden is as sharp as he was 20 years ago, but all this "BIDEN IS ON HIS DEATHBED" nonsense is overblown. I believe it was twice, and it was in response to Joe actually talking about ebola. Also Bernie acknowledged it "he got Ebola in my head". The Biden problems can not be easily explained like this, and before someone says "stutter", he was not like this before, he just wasn't. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935899981] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote> Like imagine if Biden had confused ebola with coronavirus three times in the debate. It was clearly a simple mistake by Sanders and meant nothing, but if Biden had done it the memes would've been all over the place. I'm not saying Biden is as sharp as he was 20 years ago, but all this "BIDEN IS ON HIS DEATHBED" nonsense is overblown.</quote> I believe it was twice, and it was in response to Joe actually talking about ebola. Also Bernie acknowledged it "he got Ebola in my head". The Biden problems can not be easily explained like this, and before someone says "stutter", he was not like this before, he just wasn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:43:56 PM #470:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Come on dude, you replace Joe with Trump and Sanders with Dem and this is the exact same shit MAGA shitheads say when they're trying to defend Trump saying awful shit he actually believes. Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html I sadly can't read the article so I had to look it up elsewhere! During Thursday's speech, Biden said that he spoke at an event that Upton happened to be at and he had praised him for "his fight against cancer" by supporting related legislation. The former vice president added that nothing get's done when lawmakers don't reach across the aisle. I can't see the full speech yet, but I don't think he was actually endorsing him. And it is strange for me to see people going "yes Sanders get Rogan's support it is good to reach out to other people" then go "bad Biden for reaching out to other people". He says he wants to work with republicans, not hand over the reins of government to them. If you think Republicans actually like Biden, wait a couple of months until they start ramping up their general election campaign. They'll smear him just like they would Sanders (which is why honestly we should've just nominated Sanders, but hey that's another issue entirely). If you think Biden and Trump are exactly the same on the environment, on healthcare, on women's issues, on supreme court justice picks, on who they would appoint on the federal court, on how they'd handle the coronavirus response, on almost every other issue, I don't know what to tell you. Like if your argument is "he isn't as good as Sanders" well yeah duh I agree. I don't have that option any more though and I'd rather not set the progressive agenda back another 50 years. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935899997] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Come on dude, you replace Joe with Trump and Sanders with Dem and this is the exact same shit MAGA shitheads say when they're trying to defend Trump saying awful shit he actually believes. Joe has a long history of supporting Republicans, he LITERALLY gave a paid speech in support of a Republican in 2018! https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/us/politics/biden-speech-fred-upton.html</quote> I sadly can't read the article so I had to look it up elsewhere! <quote>During Thursday's speech, Biden said that he spoke at an event that Upton happened to be at and he had praised him for "his fight against cancer" by supporting related legislation. The former vice president added that nothing get's done when lawmakers don't reach across the aisle.</quote> I can't see the full speech yet, but I don't think he was actually endorsing him. And it is strange for me to see people going "yes Sanders get Rogan's support it is good to reach out to other people" then go "bad Biden for reaching out to other people". He says he wants to work with republicans, not hand over the reins of government to them. If you think Republicans actually like Biden, wait a couple of months until they start ramping up their general election campaign. They'll smear him just like they would Sanders (which is why honestly we should've just nominated Sanders, but hey that's another issue entirely). If you think Biden and Trump are exactly the same on the environment, on healthcare, on women's issues, on supreme court justice picks, on who they would appoint on the federal court, on how they'd handle the coronavirus response, on almost every other issue, I don't know what to tell you. Like if your argument is "he isn't as good as Sanders" well yeah duh I agree. I don't have that option any more though and I'd rather not set the progressive agenda back another 50 years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 1:46:03 PM #471:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... The Biden problems can not be easily explained like this, and before someone says "stutter", he was not like this before, he just wasn't. Hes 8 years older. Did you even know who Bernie Sanders was 8 years ago? <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935900090] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> The Biden problems can not be easily explained like this, and before someone says "stutter", he was not like this before, he just wasn't.</quote>Hes 8 years older. Did you even know who Bernie Sanders was 8 years ago? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:47:17 PM #472:	Leafeon13N posted... He gave a paid speech where he said good things about a republican but it wasn't for campaign purposes. Better rip people apart for saying good things about people they shouldn't though(lol). Dude he called him "the finest guy I have ever known" and the Republicans used that as an endorsement in multiple ads. This is a guy with a 96% rating in support Donald Trump's agenda. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935900154] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>He gave a paid speech where he said good things about a republican but it wasn't for campaign purposes. Better rip people apart for saying good things about people they shouldn't though(lol).</quote> Dude he called him "the finest guy I have ever known" and the Republicans used that as an endorsement in multiple ads. This is a guy with a 96% rating in support Donald Trump's agenda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 03/19/20 1:49:34 PM #473:	Right now I am trying to convince two elderly family members of mine that coronavirus is a serious threat and they still aren't taking it seriously because of how Trump framed it initially. They know me and have known me all my life, I have a PhD in biology (well biological chemistry but almost all my work was done primarily in biology), work in microbiology, and am currently helping the hospital here on campus run tests, but my opinion means nothing to them it seems because "FAKE NEWS" has worked its way into their brain and they just quote back at me Trump's initial response to the media blowing it out of proportion. I know Trump's trying to do the right things now, but that initial response is precisely why we're at where we are now. They think the media is out to get Trump and things are overblown and it probably won't hit them for another week how bad things are and by then who knows it might be too late. So I'm done entertaining "BIDEN IS ANOTHER TRUMP" arguments for now. I know that isn't what you're saying, but I see it so much online in the subreddits I go to and it is incredibly frustrating. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:935900240] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Right now I am trying to convince two elderly family members of mine that coronavirus is a serious threat and they still aren't taking it seriously because of how Trump framed it initially. They know me and have known me all my life, I have a PhD in biology (well biological chemistry but almost all my work was done primarily in biology), work in microbiology, and am currently helping the hospital here on campus run tests, but my opinion means nothing to them it seems because "FAKE NEWS" has worked its way into their brain and they just quote back at me Trump's initial response to the media blowing it out of proportion. I know Trump's trying to do the right things now, but that initial response is precisely why we're at where we are now. They think the media is out to get Trump and things are overblown and it probably won't hit them for another week how bad things are and by then who knows it might be too late. So I'm done entertaining "BIDEN IS ANOTHER TRUMP" arguments for now. I know that isn't what you're saying, but I see it so much online in the subreddits I go to and it is incredibly frustrating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 1:50:43 PM #474:	Anyway Tony you are openly peddling dumb medical conspiracy again so I'm going to say it again. As people age they will become more prone to mental gaffes and it will exasperated issues they already had( we know Biden has a stutter). It does not mean dimensia or alzheimers. Those would be more significant losses of memory. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935900291] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Anyway Tony you are openly peddling dumb medical conspiracy again so I'm going to say it again. As people age they will become more prone to mental gaffes and it will exasperated issues they already had( we know Biden has a stutter). It does not mean dimensia or alzheimers. Those would be more significant losses of memory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 1:52:06 PM #475:	Leafeon13N posted... Hes 8 years older. Did you even know who Bernie Sanders was 8 years ago? No I didn't even have internet then --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935900347] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>Hes 8 years older. Did you even know who Bernie Sanders was 8 years ago?</quote> No I didn't even have internet then </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 1:52:45 PM #476:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Dude he called him "the finest guy I have ever known" and the Republicans used that as an endorsement in multiple ads. Bernie said good things about Castro. If he gets the nomination they will be in every ad in Florida and elsewhere for months. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935900371] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> Dude he called him "the finest guy I have ever known" and the Republicans used that as an endorsement in multiple ads.</quote>Bernie said good things about Castro. If he gets the nomination they will be in every ad in Florida and elsewhere for months. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 1:59:37 PM #477:	Suprak the Stud posted... I have a PhD in biology (well biological chemistry but almost all my work was done primarily in biology), work in microbiology, and am currently helping the hospital here on campus run tests, but my opinion means nothing to them it seems because "FAKE NEWS" has worked its way into their brain and they just quote back at me Trump's initial response to the media blowing it out of proportion. yikes I am sorry to hear that. I'd have thought if there was any way of breaking through that bubble you just described the perfect situation for it. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935900660] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>I have a PhD in biology (well biological chemistry but almost all my work was done primarily in biology), work in microbiology, and am currently helping the hospital here on campus run tests, but my opinion means nothing to them it seems because "FAKE NEWS" has worked its way into their brain and they just quote back at me Trump's initial response to the media blowing it out of proportion.</quote>yikes I am sorry to hear that. I'd have thought if there was any way of breaking through that bubble you just described the perfect situation for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 03/19/20 2:05:08 PM #478:	Suprak the Stud posted... Like if your argument is "he isn't as good as Sanders" well yeah duh I agree. I don't have that option any more though and I'd rather not set the progressive agenda back another 50 years. This is the part I don't think Tony understands. His biggest concern is Bernie only, not getting rid of Trump. If Trump wins again, there isn't a magical progressive saves the day in 2024 narrative that pops up because of the things you mentioned. The progressive moment is basically done for at least a generation unless Biden wins in November. --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:935900894] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Suprak the Stud posted... </cite> <quote>Like if your argument is "he isn't as good as Sanders" well yeah duh I agree. I don't have that option any more though and I'd rather not set the progressive agenda back another 50 years.</quote>This is the part I don't think Tony understands. His biggest concern is Bernie only, not getting rid of Trump. If Trump wins again, there isn't a magical progressive saves the day in 2024 narrative that pops up because of the things you mentioned. The progressive moment is basically done for at least a generation unless Biden wins in November. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 2:06:48 PM #479:	Leafeon13N posted... Bernie said good things about Castro. If he gets the nomination they will be in every ad in Florida and elsewhere for months. Not really the same thing. Bernie said good things about some programs in Cuba, not Castro himself. Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that? Probably none, and that's how it should be because it's a disingenuous argument. On the other hand, having the former Vice President call a Republican "finest I have ever known", well that sort of undermines a whole hell of a lot of attacks from Democrats, in my eyes. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935900957] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>Bernie said good things about Castro. If he gets the nomination they will be in every ad in Florida and elsewhere for months.</quote> Not really the same thing. Bernie said good things about some programs in Cuba, not Castro himself. Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that? Probably none, and that's how it should be because it's a disingenuous argument. On the other hand, having the former Vice President call a Republican "finest I have ever known", well that sort of undermines a whole hell of a lot of attacks from Democrats, in my eyes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:09:42 PM #480:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that? If Obama is a 10 in charisma Bernie is a 5 at most. And this isn't even a knock on Sanders charisma Obama is just that good he can say whatever the hell he wants. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901086] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that?</quote>If Obama is a 10 in charisma Bernie is a 5 at most. And this isn't even a knock on Sanders charisma Obama is just that good he can say whatever the hell he wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 2:11:34 PM #481:	RaidenGarai posted... This is the part I don't think Tony understands. His biggest concern is Bernie only, not getting rid of Trump. If Trump wins again, there isn't a magical progressive saves the day in 2024 narrative that pops up because of the things you mentioned. The progressive moment is basically done for at least a generation unless Biden wins in November. The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe. If Democrats win, they're going to feel vindicated that a "Moderate" is the way to go, setting themselves up for another Republican populist who isn't incompetent to take over. Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster. Literally forcing us into a hostage situation. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935901175] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>RaidenGarai posted... </cite> <quote>This is the part I don't think Tony understands. His biggest concern is Bernie only, not getting rid of Trump. If Trump wins again, there isn't a magical progressive saves the day in 2024 narrative that pops up because of the things you mentioned. The progressive moment is basically done for at least a generation unless Biden wins in November.</quote> The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe. If Democrats win, they're going to feel vindicated that a "Moderate" is the way to go, setting themselves up for another Republican populist who isn't incompetent to take over. Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster. Literally forcing us into a hostage situation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 2:13:24 PM #482:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster. How the fuck is Obama responsible for either of those things? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935901258] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster.</quote>How the fuck is Obama responsible for either of those things? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 03/19/20 2:14:23 PM #483:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe. If Democrats win, they're going to feel vindicated that a "Moderate" is the way to go, setting themselves up for another Republican populist who isn't incompetent to take over. Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster. Literally forcing us into a hostage situation. If Biden gets blown out, the Dems won't win downballot. If you really care about the progressive movement, you should try looking at reality, and things that are really going to happen. I also don't think the blame was on Obama regarding Garland, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mitch completely block everything there? --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:935901297] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe. If Democrats win, they're going to feel vindicated that a "Moderate" is the way to go, setting themselves up for another Republican populist who isn't incompetent to take over. Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court + RBG replaced before he peaced out. What a fucking disaster. Literally forcing us into a hostage situation.</quote>If Biden gets blown out, the Dems won't win downballot. If you really care about the progressive movement, you should try looking at reality, and things that are really going to happen. I also don't think the blame was on Obama regarding Garland, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mitch completely block everything there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:15:37 PM #484:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe. The first statement is false and the second isn't happening at the necessary rate and would have to hold multiple election cycles. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901345] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> The best thing for the Progressive movement would be Biden getting blown the fuck out but Dems winning downballot to keep the Supreme Court safe.</quote>The first statement is false and the second isn't happening at the necessary rate and would have to hold multiple election cycles. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 2:16:41 PM #485:	RaidenGarai posted... I also don't think the blame was on Obama regarding Garland, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mitch completely block everything there? Correct. McConnell blocked even hearings for Garland, let alone a vote. As for RBG, IIRC reporting was that she was incensed at calls for her to step down and she had every right to be. The failure was on the voters (and media) in 2016, not Obama, give me a fucking break. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935901395] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>RaidenGarai posted... </cite> <quote> I also don't think the blame was on Obama regarding Garland, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mitch completely block everything there?</quote>Correct. McConnell blocked even hearings for Garland, let alone a vote. As for RBG, IIRC reporting was that she was incensed at calls for her to step down and she had every right to be. The failure was on the voters (and media) in 2016, not Obama, give me a fucking break. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:17:33 PM #486:	Tony you are diving further off the Bernie deep end than you have your dumb conspiracy theories. Hell Bernie has told you Trump must be defeated at all costs but of course in your opinion Bernie is a liar because you are a horrible whining child with no real stake in this race. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901431] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Tony you are diving further off the Bernie deep end than you have your dumb conspiracy theories. Hell Bernie has told you Trump must be defeated at all costs but of course in your opinion Bernie is a liar because you are a horrible whining child with no real stake in this race. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/19/20 2:18:29 PM #487:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Not really the same thing. Bernie said good things about some programs in Cuba, not Castro himself. Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that? Probably none, and that's how it should be because it's a disingenuous argument. On the other hand, having the former Vice President call a Republican "finest I have ever known", well that sort of undermines a whole hell of a lot of attacks from Democrats, in my eyes. ...wait. are you saying that praising Castro - and yes, Castro's Cuba means him since he was a dictator - is less wrong than praising a Republican? there's literally nothing wrong with "hey guys he praised a Republican." there's a lot wrong with praising Castro and his policies in Cuba. but to repeat myself again, there is nothing wrong with praising a republican and that should not be a disqualifier for anything. that's some serious partisanship. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:935901477] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Not really the same thing. Bernie said good things about some programs in Cuba, not Castro himself. Barack Obama said those exact same things, almost literally, and much more recently. Sorry, but how many Democrats have attacked him for that? Probably none, and that's how it should be because it's a disingenuous argument. On the other hand, having the former Vice President call a Republican "finest I have ever known", well that sort of undermines a whole hell of a lot of attacks from Democrats, in my eyes.</quote> ...wait. are you saying that praising Castro - and yes, Castro's Cuba means him since he was a dictator - is less wrong than praising a Republican? there's literally nothing wrong with "hey guys he praised a Republican." there's a lot wrong with praising Castro and his policies in Cuba. but to repeat myself again, there is nothing wrong with praising a republican and that should not be a disqualifier for anything. that's some serious partisanship. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:18:31 PM #488:	Anyway to reiterate my point Tony, despite all your arguing ultimately you think Bernie Sanders is a liar and don't really believe in him. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901478] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Anyway to reiterate my point Tony, despite all your arguing ultimately you think Bernie Sanders is a liar and don't really believe in him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 2:18:32 PM #489:	the best thing for the progressive movement would be to move on from sanders and embrace AOC. she is on point like 99.9% of the time and has continually had the right message during the primary --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935901481] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>the best thing for the progressive movement would be to move on from sanders and embrace AOC. she is on point like 99.9% of the time and has continually had the right message during the primary </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 03/19/20 2:18:39 PM #490:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court This may be the worst post in 284 topics, and you all know some of our regulars. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:935901486] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>Frankly, what an utter failure Obama was that he didn't get Merrick Garland on the court</quote> This may be the worst post in 284 topics, and you all know some of our regulars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 03/19/20 2:21:22 PM #491:	We have to remember though, Bernie could have got Garland through AND got RBG to step down because he has never and will never say or do anything wrong. The Bernie Blinders there are incredible. --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:935901597] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>We have to remember though, Bernie could have got Garland through AND got RBG to step down because he has never and will never say or do anything wrong. The Bernie Blinders there are incredible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:21:30 PM #492:	xp1337 posted... the best thing for the progressive movement would be to move on from sanders and embrace AOC. she is on point like 99.9% of the time and has continually had the right message during the primary They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901602] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>the best thing for the progressive movement would be to move on from sanders and embrace AOC. she is on point like 99.9% of the time and has continually had the right message during the primary</quote>They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 2:21:41 PM #493:	No you're right, Obama succeeded greatly at getting blocked by Mitch, my bad guys I recant. Leafeon13N posted... Anyway to reiterate my point Tony, despite all your arguing ultimately you think Bernie Sanders is a liar and don't really believe in him. What does this even mean? It's not like I want Trump to win, I spend just as much time arguing with MAGA chuds that their god emperor is a giant shithead. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935901613] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>No you're right, Obama succeeded greatly at getting blocked by Mitch, my bad guys I recant. Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>Anyway to reiterate my point Tony, despite all your arguing ultimately you think Bernie Sanders is a liar and don't really believe in him.</quote> What does this even mean? It's not like I want Trump to win, I spend just as much time arguing with MAGA chuds that their god emperor is a giant shithead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 03/19/20 2:21:57 PM #494:	i wouldn't say it's one of the worst but it's definitely confusing because Tony should know better. like... i'm not sure what he's doing because this seems like arguing and arguing and arguing to a point where he's not sure what he's arguing about anymore and that string of ideas came together. --- "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:935901628] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>i wouldn't say it's one of the worst but it's definitely confusing because Tony should know better. like... i'm not sure what he's doing because this seems like arguing and arguing and arguing to a point where he's not sure what he's arguing about anymore and that string of ideas came together. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 2:22:20 PM #495:	Leafeon13N posted... They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her. yes i know and i am still on this ship even as it is currently underwater and falling to the ocean floor but i am being a realist --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935901648] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her.</quote>yes i know and i am still on this ship even as it is currently underwater and falling to the ocean floor but i am being a realist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 2:22:55 PM #496:	Leafeon13N posted... They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her. Even if she had done everything else correctly she was never going to be President after she got the Native American bloodtest. Don't blame this on Bernie supporters, thanks, the Dems at large didn't embrace her either. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935901675] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>They should embrace Warren because she has one of the best shots at winning the 2024 nomination. But they've disowned her.</quote> Even if she had done everything else correctly she was never going to be President after she got the Native American bloodtest. Don't blame this on Bernie supporters, thanks, the Dems at large didn't embrace her either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RaidenGarai 03/19/20 2:23:28 PM #497:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... It's not like I want Trump to win, I spend just as much time arguing with MAGA chuds that their god emperor is a giant shithead. Honestly, it seems like you do want Trump to win, but maybe that's just me. --- Epic Seven IGN ZeroThe13th <cite>RaidenGarai posted [p:935901691] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>It's not like I want Trump to win, I spend just as much time arguing with MAGA chuds that their god emperor is a giant shithead.</quote>Honestly, it seems like you do want Trump to win, but maybe that's just me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 03/19/20 2:23:40 PM #498:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... What does this even mean? It means Bernie is telling you to vote Biden if hes the nominee and you are advocating for a Trump presidency. These two sides are mutually exclusive and your opinion is hypocritical. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:935901702] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote> What does this even mean?</quote>It means Bernie is telling you to vote Biden if hes the nominee and you are advocating for a Trump presidency. These two sides are mutually exclusive and your opinion is hypocritical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/19/20 2:24:10 PM #499:	Leafeon13N posted... It means Bernie is telling you to vote Biden if hes the nominee and you are advocating for a Trump presidency. These two sides are mutually exclusive and your opinion is hypocritical. I'm literally not doing this though? Do not confuse me being terrified that Joe is going to blow it with me saying Trump should win. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:935901737] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>Leafeon13N posted... </cite> <quote>It means Bernie is telling you to vote Biden if hes the nominee and you are advocating for a Trump presidency. These two sides are mutually exclusive and your opinion is hypocritical.</quote> I'm literally not doing this though? Do not confuse me being terrified that Joe is going to blow it with me saying Trump should win. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 03/19/20 2:24:29 PM #500:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... No you're right, Obama succeeded greatly at getting blocked by Mitch, my bad guys I recant. shit is there some invisible ink in the constitution that states the president has the ability to buff his party's senate caucus by like 15 votes like some mmorpg cooldown? is that what those cage movies were about? --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:935901755] in Politics C... [t:78477814]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite> <quote>No you're right, Obama succeeded greatly at getting blocked by Mitch, my bad guys I recant.</quote>shit is there some invisible ink in the constitution that states the president has the ability to buff his party's senate caucus by like 15 votes like some mmorpg cooldown? is that what those cage movies were about? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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