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Rika_Furude
03/19/20 4:01:31 AM
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"Sony says will hit speeds of 5.5GB of input data per second"

so not even using nvme drives. massive failure

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Kolibri X
03/19/20 4:03:23 AM
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You don't even like consoles.

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Rika_Furude
03/19/20 4:05:31 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
You don't even like consoles.
i own all the sony and nintendo consoles so dont start your shit

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Kolibri X
03/19/20 4:07:16 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
i own all the sony and nintendo consoles so dont start your shit
You just made a long ass troll topic about how you don't see the point in consoles lol. I guess this is part 2. Don't worry, I won't get involved in your bullshit.

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Rika_Furude
03/19/20 4:08:02 AM
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Kolibri X posted...
You just made a long ass troll topic
dont use words youi dont understand. you're done here. stop crying and trying to derail this thread

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MabusIncarnate
03/19/20 4:10:19 AM
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But exclusives

Sony having 4 more games per year Xbox doesn't TREMENDOUSLY outweighs everything else.

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Rika_Furude
03/19/20 4:11:15 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
But exclusives

Sony having 4 more games per year Xbox doesn't TREMENDOUSLY outweighs everything else.
yeah ill still be buying the ps5.
but its still pretty stupid they didnt go with modern hardware

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bknight
03/19/20 4:12:32 AM
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Xbox won this console war already and neither have launched yet, sad.
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Rika_Furude
03/19/20 4:13:11 AM
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bknight posted...
Xbox won this console war already and neither have launched yet, sad.
microsoft wont win anything because its games are gambling simulators

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pres_madagascar
03/19/20 4:40:41 AM
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Microsoft is still stuck in 2007 in terms of what they think gamers want.

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Wetterdew
03/19/20 4:55:15 AM
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I didn't get a ps4 and am thinking of getting a 5 to catch up on the games I missed. Not when it comes out--maybe a few years later when it gets cheaper.

Microsoft's stewardship of Xbox is embarrassing and I can't see myself getting an xbox ever.

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ssjevot
03/19/20 4:55:19 AM
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People have bought underpowered Wiis and now Switches because they want games. Power is just not the selling factor for most gamers. Very rarely has the most powerful console won a generation. The PS1 was weaker and stronger in some ways, so that generation is weird. The PS2 was only stronger than the DC, but easily beat the more powerful XBox and GameCube. The PS3 was powerful but lost to the less powerful 360 and both were destroyed by the incredibly weak Wii in terms of sales. PS4 won easily, it's hard to keep track of what is stronger with all the upgrades, but the Switch is selling very well. The powerful PSP and Vita both lost to weaker Nintendo handhelds.

Power just isn't that big a deal in terms of sales.

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Arcanine2009
03/19/20 4:55:32 AM
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Everything will be fine. Ms may have the leg up on GPU, CPU and RAM, but it's the price of the console and software that matters

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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 4:57:15 AM
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It's the PS3 all over again lol

Kinda funny how teraflops only mattered when it was rumored that the PS5 had more for some reason

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ModLogic
03/19/20 5:04:39 AM
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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 5:05:48 AM
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Darmik
03/19/20 5:13:31 AM
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What are you talking about? The SSD in the PS5 is pretty good and way above expectations of a console.

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ssjevot
03/19/20 5:13:32 AM
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Nintendo will presumably lose the online everything battle forever. It's unreal how and every single aspect of their online, from the store, to the multiplayer, to the "free games" are so much worse than what MS and Sony offer. The Virtual Console mess is probably the single most anti-consumer thing in gaming to this point.

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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 5:29:17 AM
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Darmik posted...
What are you talking about? The SSD in the PS5 is pretty good and way above expectations of a console.

It's like buying a car with a V8 engine and ignoring the impact it'll have on your MPG because you're too awestruck by the horsepower.

I'm not inclined to believe that the SSD is gonna make up for a weaker CPU, GPU, or slower RAM. People have been putting SSDs in PS4s for years with nominal gains.

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Darmik
03/19/20 5:33:52 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
It's like buying a car with a V8 engine and ignoring the impact it'll have on your MPG because you're too awestruck by the horsepower.

I'm not inclined to believe that the SSD is gonna make up for a weaker CPU, GPU, or slower RAM. People have been putting SSDs in PS4s for years with nominal gains.

Because it's throttled by USB. SSD's are a big upgrade when properly implemented like they will be for both consoles. Sony has put a big focus on it.

Neither console uses dated technology like the TC is stating. Apparently no modern SSD on the market is good enough to be used as expandable PS5 storage.

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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 5:38:06 AM
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Darmik posted...
Because it's throttled by USB. SSD's are a big upgrade when properly implemented like they will be for both consoles. Sony has put a big focus on it.

Neither console uses dated technology like the TC is stating.

I'm talking about installing SSDs into a PS4, specifically saving you 2-3 loading seconds for most scenarios. I'm sure the OS for the PS5 will benefit the most from the integrated SSD, but considering most people are going to be probably connecting an external SSD to store most of their games anyway it seems like a waste to hype up as game-changing, especially if it's not 1TB.

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Darmik
03/19/20 5:48:25 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
I'm talking about installing SSDs into a PS4, specifically saving you 2-3 loading seconds for most scenarios. I'm sure the OS for the PS5 will benefit the most from the integrated SSD, but considering most people are going to be probably connecting an external SSD to store most of their games anyway it seems like a waste to hype up as game-changing, especially if it's not 1TB.

It's a waste of an SSD to plug it into a console via USB. Always has been. The benefits are negligible compared to a PC with an SSD plugged into the motherboard and always have been. It's like saying a HD console isn't a big deal because it looks the same when plugged into your SD television.

You cannot play any PS5 or Xbox Series X games via USB (regardless if it's SSD or not) because it's not fast enough. It's a major difference for the Xbox Series X and that one is half of the PS5's speed.

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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 5:52:49 AM
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Darmik posted...
It's a waste of an SSD to plug it into a console via USB. Always has been. The benefits are negligible compared to a PC with an SSD plugged into the motherboard and always have been. It's like saying a HD console isn't a big deal because it looks the same when plugged into your SD television.

You cannot play any PS5 or Xbox Series X games via USB (regardless if it's SSD or not) because it's not fast enough. It's a major difference for the Xbox Series X and that one is half of the PS5's speed.

Again, I was referring to PS4's which has an SSD installed into their actual hard drive slot, not connected by USB. Still not much of a difference speed-wise.

If Microsoft ends up making those SSD storage cards affordable enough that could easily bridge the gap between physical and digital media, especially for digital-only releases.

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Vyrulisse
03/19/20 5:57:08 AM
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There's so much coping going on about the SSD speed and it's like no one gives a shit about that really. Developers won't take advantage of it unless they are first party for the most part because it would mean extra work porting and the facts are it's a weaker machine than the new Xbox.

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Darmik
03/19/20 5:58:11 AM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Again, I was referring to PS4's which has an SSD installed into their actual hard drive slot, not connected by USB. Still not much of a difference speed-wise.

And it's still irrelevant. It's not designed for SSD drives. It's hobbled. I didn't even know they let you do it. SSD's only give a 2x speed increase on PS4 compared to HDD. The PS5 SSD will have a 100x speed increase compared to PS4 hard drives.

If you've used an SSD on PC you'd already know how much of an improvement it is. Buying an SSD for a PS4 or an Xbox One is a waste of money but it's a huge benefit for PC. Games load before you can even read the loading screen tips. Future games will be designed around that speed outside of loading times.

AvantgardeAClue posted...
If Microsoft ends up making those SSD storage cards affordable enough that could easily bridge the gap between physical and digital media, especially for digital-only releases.

It's not going to be cheap.

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AvantgardeAClue
03/19/20 6:04:18 AM
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My MBP has always had flash storage so way ahead of you on that lol

I'm not gonna nerd out about the SSD speeds at the end of the day though when I still think it's not gonna compensate entirely for the weaker CPU, GPU, or RAM. Devs are gonna see the better specs on the Series X and take advantage of it. They did it with the PS4 compared to the Xbox One, I don't see why they wouldn't do it here.

Still so nice to know I can simply unplug my external 8TB HDD and plug it into my Series X to instantly have access to my entire BC library.

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CADE FOSTER
03/19/20 7:14:12 AM
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Till ms has any exclusives they will lose every console war fact if you can get it in pc Xbox is completely useless
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Kajagogo
03/19/20 7:19:05 AM
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I don't really care about the technical aspects on a console. If it has interesting looking games with interesting stories and interesting characters, that's enough for me.

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The Popo
03/19/20 7:25:53 AM
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ssjevot posted...
The PS3 was powerful but lost to the less powerful 360 and both were destroyed by the incredibly weak Wii in terms of sales.

While the PS3 did poorly early on, it beat the 360 in the long run.



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ssjevot
03/19/20 7:37:16 AM
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And the Wii still beat both despite being two GameCubes strapped together. I am not saying the most powerful console can't win, I am just saying it's a poor argument to suggest being more powerful is strongly correlated with outselling the competition.

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The Popo
03/19/20 7:40:53 AM
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I know. I was just correcting the statement about PS3 vs 360.

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