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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 8:24:46 PM
#302:


I will also note that "believe women" has never meant "assume that all claims of sexual misconduct are 100% accurate until proven otherwise" except in conservative caricatures. It means that you treat accusations seriously and investigate them and don't set out to tear down the accusers.

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Corrik7
03/28/20 8:26:49 PM
#303:


KamikazePotato posted...
Kavanaugh was the most blatantly guilty person I've ever seen. Biden isn't nearly on his level and I'm not sure how far to believe the accusations.
Lol you are deciding this based on the letter next to their name.

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red sox 777
03/28/20 8:29:59 PM
#304:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I will also note that "believe women" has never meant "assume that all claims of sexual misconduct are 100% accurate until proven otherwise" except in conservative caricatures. It means that you treat accusations seriously and investigate them and don't set out to tear down the accusers.

The investigation goes as far as determining if they are a Republican or Democrat.

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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 8:34:51 PM
#305:


Joe Cunningham (D-NC) apparently tested positive for coronavirus yesterday. He was already self isolated after interacting with another Congressman who had tested positive and apparently his only symptom is loss of taste/smell.

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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 8:40:50 PM
#306:


https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1244053944554401800

Ultra fucked up

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TheRock1525
03/28/20 8:45:12 PM
#307:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I will also note that "believe women" has never meant "assume that all claims of sexual misconduct are 100% accurate until proven otherwise" except in conservative caricatures. It means that you treat accusations seriously and investigate them and don't set out to tear down the accusers.
I think almost everyone here, including me, supports a full investigation. Even if I have my skepticism, they're very serious charges that warrant serious consideration and investigation.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/28/20 8:58:51 PM
#308:


TheRock1525 posted...
Meme said nothing about sexual assault, just "believing women."

Believe Women is literally a slogan for MeToo, not saying that women cant lie.

Why are you trolling about this?

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ChaosTonyV4
03/28/20 9:01:37 PM
#309:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1243906238611476482

This is an abuse of power and hugely unethical. I know there are bigger things going on now, but the purpose of the CARES act was not helping Trump's reelection effort.

Going back to this real quick, not to say I told you so, but I literally said the Dems need to be generous and assertive about this shit or Trump was going to take credit.

This election is gonna be between the guy who personally signed $1200 checks to every American and the guy who was invisible the week the crisis started.

Thats objectively not good!


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StealThisSheen
03/28/20 9:25:26 PM
#310:


To be fair, thanks to the media, it was always going to be that way.

The ONLY thing getting covered at all is Trump's reactions/conferences/etc., so that's all a vast majority of voters are gonna see regardless.

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Corrik7
03/28/20 9:45:42 PM
#311:


I really don't see how that's an abuse of power.

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SmartMuffin
03/28/20 9:47:29 PM
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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 9:47:39 PM
#313:


Corrik7 posted...
I really don't see how that's an abuse of power.
He's using his official role for personal gain.

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Corrik7
03/28/20 9:52:10 PM
#314:


LordoftheMorons posted...
He's using his official role for personal gain.
Uh, yeah, I don't see it. Barely anyone is even going to receive checks or care who signed them anyways.

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Jakyl25
03/28/20 9:57:14 PM
#315:


I dont know that its an abuse of power but I do wonder how its allowed since, you know, hes not the one actually sending you money
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red sox 777
03/28/20 9:59:35 PM
#316:


The President signs on behalf of the United States. Simple. Who else is going to sign them? The President's employees?

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red sox 777
03/28/20 10:00:41 PM
#317:


Presumably, he's going to sign as Donald J. Trump, President of the United States. Not as Donald J. Trump, as an individual.

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Jakyl25
03/28/20 10:02:53 PM
#318:


Does he have power of attorney over the treasury?
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Jakyl25
03/28/20 10:03:36 PM
#319:


Anyway his signature is illegible so lol
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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 10:03:40 PM
#320:


The president's signature isn't on peoples' IRS refund checks, and it wouldn't be on these either without Trump specifically ordering that it be so

I guess on the plus side his signature is completely illegible

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Corrik7
03/28/20 10:04:20 PM
#321:


Jakyl25 posted...
Does he have power of attorney over the treasury?
Treasury is the executive branch. He is the head of the executive branch. I'd guess, yeah, he has authority over it.

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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 10:05:00 PM
#322:


Damn, jakyl'd by 5 seconds

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Jakyl25
03/28/20 10:05:13 PM
#323:


Bam, best Jakyling in a long time
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CoolCly
03/28/20 10:08:09 PM
#324:


it's a little shitty because this isn't something he really championed, but it's not really an abuse of power. it's not unusual for a leaders "signature" to be on important messages to people

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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 11:42:44 PM
#325:


2.8% of the inmates in Rikers are already confirmed to have the coronavirus:

https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1244041855614029826

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Wanglicious
03/28/20 11:45:40 PM
#326:


oh i'm sure it's much, much higher.
prisons are basically a quarantine as is. meaning, if you breach it, everyone's got it.


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LordoftheMorons
03/28/20 11:57:26 PM
#327:


Theyre not really a quarantine though; guards are coming in and out.

Probably only a matter of time before almost all of them have mass outbreaks.

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red sox 777
03/28/20 11:58:22 PM
#328:


Release everyone. Just do it.

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LordoftheMorons
03/29/20 12:01:23 AM
#329:


Disagree with that; people that are a danger to society (murderers, rapists, etc) cannot be released. They should be releasing inmates that pose a low threat to society, though.

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Wanglicious
03/29/20 12:05:58 AM
#330:


no thanks. for starters, murderers generally don't repeat, robbers and burglars do. those guys are usually a higher threat to society.

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LordoftheMorons
03/29/20 12:06:18 AM
#331:


It's also probably going to be even worse in the ICE detention centers.

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Corrik7
03/29/20 12:38:28 AM
#332:


They shouldn't release anyone that has a violent crime or felony of any sort.

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LordoftheMorons
03/29/20 12:50:16 AM
#333:


https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1244090634413264896?s=21

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TheRock1525
03/29/20 1:27:12 AM
#334:


Constantly defending Trump will drive you to drink:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1244085811466899459

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ChaosTonyV4
03/29/20 2:45:02 AM
#335:


https://twitter.com/abc/status/1244142484114063360?s=21



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UshiromiyaEva
03/29/20 2:49:35 AM
#336:


What a shock.
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red sox 777
03/29/20 2:55:58 AM
#337:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/abc/status/1244142484114063360?s=21


Looks good. Probably that number will drop but even 10% will make it hard for Biden to win.

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LordoftheMorons
03/29/20 2:57:33 AM
#338:


Seems like a foreseeable effect of a lot of them being in an echo chamber of theres literally no difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump despite all of the evidence to the contrary (a conclusion Bernie himself vehemently rejects!)

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TheRock1525
03/29/20 2:59:12 AM
#339:


This just in: 15% of Bernie supporters are unquestionably morons.

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TheRock1525
03/29/20 3:02:16 AM
#340:


Although 20% said they'd vote for Trump over Clinton and the final amount was 12%, so I wonder if we'll get a similar reduction when November actually roles around.

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red sox 777
03/29/20 3:14:03 AM
#341:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Seems like a foreseeable effect of a lot of them being in an echo chamber of theres literally no difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump despite all of the evidence to the contrary (a conclusion Bernie himself vehemently rejects!)

There's a world of difference. Trump is way better. I could be happy with either Bernie or Trump but Biden? No way!

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red13n
03/29/20 3:14:28 AM
#342:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Seems like a foreseeable effect of a lot of them being in an echo chamber of theres literally no difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump despite all of the evidence to the contrary (a conclusion Bernie himself vehemently rejects!)

The last time I asked in topic for a specific actionable policy difference between Biden and Bernie in this topic I supposedly got put on 1 ignore list and got no actual response.

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red sox 777
03/29/20 3:36:54 AM
#343:


Trump is up to a 51-39 lead against Biden on PredictIt. Biden is down to 77% for the Dem nomination there, and Bernie is back in 2nd place over Hillary.

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LordoftheMorons
03/29/20 3:56:53 AM
#344:


Betting markets are dumb part 10000

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ChaosTonyV4
03/29/20 4:08:48 AM
#345:


red13n posted...
The last time I asked in topic for a specific actionable policy difference between Biden and Bernie in this topic I supposedly got put on 1 ignore list and got no actual response.

We said Medicare for All and your response was it will never happen and Biden will do the exact same thing Bernie would be able to.

Which is just...a fundamental misunderstanding (willful, obviously) of what Bernie even stands for, let alone wants.

More stuff added to the ACA is literally unacceptable to Bernie, because it still relies on a profit motive in healthcare.

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VintageGin
03/29/20 4:31:13 AM
#346:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
We said Medicare for All and your response was it will never happen and Biden will do the exact same thing Bernie would be able to.

Which is just...a fundamental misunderstanding (willful, obviously) of what Bernie even stands for, let alone wants.

More stuff added to the ACA is literally unacceptable to Bernie, because it still relies on a profit motive in healthcare.


To be more accurate, his argument was that there would be no difference in what they actually got passed due to not having a majority in congress.

But it was pointed out that Biden is more likely to make concessions to Republicans and he basically ignored that point.

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StealThisSheen
03/29/20 4:39:36 AM
#347:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
What a shock.

It is kinda shocking that that many people are garbage, yeah

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Corrik7
03/29/20 4:42:28 AM
#348:


StealThisSheen posted...
It is kinda shocking that that many people are garbage, yeah
People are garbage if they don't vote the way you want. News at 11.

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StealThisSheen
03/29/20 4:45:50 AM
#349:


If you're a Bernie supporter, and your response to not getting Bernie is to vote the candidate furthest away from Bernie, then yes, you're likely voting out of spite or ignorance and both are pretty garbage

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Corrik7
03/29/20 4:49:43 AM
#350:


StealThisSheen posted...
If you're a Bernie supporter, and your response to not getting Bernie is to vote the candidate furthest away from Bernie, then yes, you're likely voting out of spite or ignorance and both are pretty garbage
Or they prefer Trump more than Biden? I preferred Bernie over Hilary if not Trump.

Zomg. The horrors. I mean, people aren't garbage for not voting for who they want to.

Some may have been voting for Bernie simply for student loan relief. If they weren't going to get that, then they preferred Trump.

Like, it is their choice. Not yours.

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red13n
03/29/20 4:58:19 AM
#351:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...


We said Medicare for All and your response was it will never happen and Biden will do the exact same thing Bernie would be able to.

No, you didn't say Medicare for All, and I specifically said actionable. Bernie will -never- get Medicare for all passed in his presidency. It is not a difference in the Presidency because Bernie cannot get it passed.

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