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ZeldaTPLink 04/01/20 8:40:28 PM #151: |
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Why? Less people would have played it or cared about it. Undertale got massively anti-voted for what happened in 2015. Otherwise it's a high tier indie like the Cupheads and Shovel Knights. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:40:53 PM #152: |
LusterSoldier posted...
It's rather impressive that Undertale managed to still lose to Octopath even among registered users with the massive bracket support for Undertale. 6849 brackets picked Undertale to win, but only got 4422 votes from registered users. This means that 35.44% of registered users with a bracket entry would have to vote against Undertale to end up with just 4422 votes from registered users. It's not a perfect assumption to make because not all registered users with a bracket would have voted on that specific day of matches, and there are dozens of other registered users are free to vote for either game without having to worry about their bracket as they didn't fill out a bracket. People are willing to sacrifice their bracket to end Undertale. Good times --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:41:49 PM #153: |
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Undertale got massively anti-voted for what happened in 2015. Yes it gets antivoted but its also getting a shit ton of support from the peopel who played and enjoyed it. And a lot of peopel wouldn't have given this game that chance The antivoting isn't as big as you think. ITs mostly focused to B8. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:42:39 PM #154: |
GTAV rising.
Even still. CUphead/GTAV just became a very very interesting round. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoomTheGyarados 04/01/20 8:42:59 PM #155: |
So I have Persona 4 winning this division and today doesn't make me feel worse about that.
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ZeldaTPLink 04/01/20 8:43:01 PM #156: |
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Yes it gets antivoted but its also getting a shit ton of support from the peopel who played and enjoyed it. And a lot of peopel wouldn't have given this game that chance Today's statistics actually show B8 supported it more than the anons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 04/01/20 8:44:43 PM #157: |
Yeah, it's not anti-voting if you weren't going to vote for it in the first place.
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lordjers 04/01/20 8:45:00 PM #158: |
My bracket had Undertale but I voted for Octopath, and I played Undertale.
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:45:23 PM #159: |
DoomTheGyarados posted...
So I have Persona 4 winning this division and today doesn't make me feel worse about that. We haven't seen Xenoblade in action And Right now even though P4G is my favourite game in this division by a mile....Xenoblade is still favourite for me right now. ZeldaTPLink posted... Today's statistics actually show B8 supported it more than the anons. Which shows even more less antivotes. Its a vocal minority on B8. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZeldaTPLink 04/01/20 8:46:09 PM #160: |
charmander6000 posted...
Yeah, it's not anti-voting if you weren't going to vote for it in the first place. Except you were. Undertale is not Baba is You. It's a well known game that even appeared on Smash and got a Switch port. But 20% of this site say they outright won't play it because of 2015. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorJimmy133 04/01/20 8:46:14 PM #161: |
Rockstar building percentage over time isn't surprising.
But why is P4G gaining just as much? It's like the most Board 8 game there is. --- Advokaiser is the man. Congrats! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperNiceDog 04/01/20 8:47:46 PM #162: |
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Rockstar building percentage over time isn't surprising. P4G lookin good I'm happy. Also this bodes well for Persona 5 --- SuperNiceChao about to win the Oracle 2020! TsunamiXXVIII and me will destroy all you noobs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 04/01/20 8:48:28 PM #163: |
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Except you were. Undertale is not Baba is You. It's a well known game that even appeared on Smash and got a Switch port. And how many of that 20% (if it's even accurate) would have voted for a game they never heard over Octopath? --- Game of the Decade 2 - Current Score: 19/24 Today's Picks: GTAV, Cuphead, P4G, RDR ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:48:41 PM #164: |
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Rockstar building percentage over time isn't surprising. This isn't 2008 anymore when P4 was this incredibly niche but cult super hit. P4G(and Persona 4) is a legit Game on this site. I Also Royal Came out. So more PErsona fans on this site. If you think P4G looks impressive...Wait for Persona 5 to Steam Roll its division Basically it will do what a real #1 Seed should do. Clean up its division with consummate Ease. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:54:20 PM #166: |
Holy SHIT!
Both PErsona 4 and RDR matches have the exact same % and Same EXACT votes. lol --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LusterSoldier 04/01/20 8:55:13 PM #167: |
Undertale vs. Octopath Traveler
Registered Vote Result: Undertale - 4422 (48.13%) Octopath Traveler - 4766 (51.87%) Anonymous Vote Result: Undertale - 3243 (43.23%) Octopath Traveler - 4258 (56.77%) Shovel Knight vs. Dragon's Dogma Registered Vote Result: Shovel Knight - 5992 (65.22%) Dragon's Dogma - 3196 (34.78%) Anonymous Vote Result: Shovel Knight - 4680 (62.39%) Dragon's Dogma - 2819 (37.58%) Devil May Cry 5 vs. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Registered Vote Result: Devil May Cry 5 - 5292 (57.60%) Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - 3896 (42.40%) Anonymous Vote Result: Devil May Cry 5 - 4272 (56.95%) Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - 3228 (43.03%) Super Mario Odyssey vs. Mortal Kombat 11 Registered Vote Result: Super Mario Odyssey - 7929 (86.30%) Mortal Kombat 11 - 1259 (13.70%) Anonymous Vote Result: Super Mario Odyssey - 6387 (85.15%) Mortal Kombat 11 - 1113 (14.84%) Undertale does almost 5% better with registered users, but the only reason it wasn't higher than that is because of anti-votes from people who hated it for what it did in 2015. Bracket voting matters a lot more when it's 2 games that a sizable proportion of the bracket entry userbase hasn't played, so the game with better bracket support gets a lot of apathy votes. It's much different in the case of Undertale because a lot of users do hate it from 2015, so it can't pick up apathy votes quite as easily from users who haven't played either game. Shovel Knight does almost 3% with registered users, but this is a match where Shovel Knight could benefit from apathy votes among registered users that have a bracket entry and haven't played either game in this match. Yesterday's matches averaged 55.06% of the votes from registered users, which is similar to what we've seen throughout this entire contest so far. No evidence of rallying exists. The vote totals were unusually high with an average of 16688 raw votes per match, far surpassing the 15508 vote average from the RE2 match day. Vote totals from registered users reached an all-time high at 9188 votes per match, while anonymous users also saw an all-time high of 7500 votes on average. Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFS3SfH6sAhPdS85H7BpuFIkr9SayeF7AhMw-wrEBng/pub --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Advokaiser, Guru Champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 8:56:42 PM #168: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
I had the Cupset initially and changed my mind. I am really kicking myself GTAV will mostly likely edge it But i'm glad thats as far as i have it going. Fraud #1 seed. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_SecretSquirrel 04/01/20 9:02:52 PM #170: |
GTA better be hoping its decisively above Cuphead, because I don't like it's chances in a nailbiter.
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Evillordexdeath 04/01/20 9:04:04 PM #171: |
I personally am not confident that FTL is a stronger game than Ghost Trick.
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 9:04:45 PM #172: |
_SecretSquirrel posted...
GTA better be hoping its decisively above Cuphead, because I don't like it's chances in a nailbiter. Any decent strength game in this contest would be able to take down GTAV --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 04/01/20 9:04:55 PM #173: |
_SecretSquirrel posted...
GTA better be hoping its decisively above Cuphead, because I don't like it's chances in a nailbiter. GTA is clutch https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1351-west-division-round-2-donkey-kong-vs-tommy-vercetti https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2084-flood-division-round-1-kefka-vs-tommy-vercetti 15 years ago... --- Link isn't the only one who kicks ass. Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 04/01/20 9:06:06 PM #174: |
Posting this here again for anyone who thinks Undertale isn't antivoted
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6456-one-year-later-have-you-ever-played-undertale And that's the people voting in potd that refused to ever touch it, probably a lot who played it and still antivoted it. Antivoting is a thing here. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to Advokaiser, the winner of the Character Battle X guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foxhead84 04/01/20 9:06:41 PM #175: |
Gall posted...
dyssey > Ultim Gall posted... Shovel Knight gets a big win, and Undertale keeps it close enough where it surely wins without antivotes. As someone who took more than a few indie upsets, Im wishing Id taken a few more. I really like your posts. more detail and look back would be appreciated imo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativename 04/01/20 9:08:07 PM #176: |
charmander6000 posted...
Just like Draven/Sans, GameFAQs got more exposure to Undertale from 2015 relative to the outsiders. This makes the most sense to me of any theory people have given so far, on why Undertale did better with registered users. That they have more exposure to it than the anons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 9:08:11 PM #177: |
Evillordexdeath posted...
I personally am not confident that FTL is a stronger game than Ghost Trick. We'll see next round But FTL has a much larger PC following. I think Ghost Trick is the strongest though --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 04/01/20 9:08:48 PM #178: |
Every indie winner has tanked percentage all throughout the day, so I expect Cuphead to do the same.
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creativename 04/01/20 9:09:58 PM #179: |
Team Rocket Elite posted...
43584 458835 355766 451575What's the deal here? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 04/01/20 9:10:31 PM #180: |
Also, Ghost Trick probably has the lowest playrate of any of these games.
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Team Rocket Elite 04/01/20 9:11:11 PM #181: |
I'm an Undertale anti-voter. I'm in that 20% that refuses to ever give it a chance. It's trivially obvious that it's a not zero group. But, I'm also a big fan of Octopath Traveler and would have voted that way regardless of what happened in 2015. So the fact that I'm an anti-voter is totally meaningless.
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ctesjbuvf 04/01/20 9:11:20 PM #182: |
PC following has rarely helped anything here
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 9:13:08 PM #183: |
Ok ok you are all convinced Undertale got Antivoted
Boo hoo Big fucking deal. Just let this fucking cancer of a game Die already --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 04/01/20 9:13:14 PM #184: |
creativename posted...
Those are the numbers that will be used for the url for the next few match pictures. After MetalmindStats's hint I was able to also figure out the pattern. --- Link isn't the only one who kicks ass. Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yuri_LowelI 04/01/20 9:13:59 PM #185: |
Leonhart4 posted...
Also, Ghost Trick probably has the lowest playrate of any of these games. Playrate is irrelevant. Persona 4 Golden probably has less players than all of these games bar Ghost Trick. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativename 04/01/20 9:14:31 PM #186: |
Team Rocket Elite posted...
I'm an Undertale anti-voter. I'm in that 20% that refuses to ever give it a chance. It's trivially obvious that it's a not zero group. But, I'm also a big fan of Octopath Traveler and would have voted that way regardless of what happened in 2015. So the fact that I'm an anti-voter is totally meaningless.It's definitely a group, but why would anons anti vote more than registereds? I think Undertale is just naturally weak, but stronger with the registereds who would be more exposed to it. You could say it's brackets, but that would be part of the exposure deal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 04/01/20 9:15:13 PM #187: |
Yuri_LowelI posted...
Playrate is irrelevant. Persona 4 Golden probably has less players than all of these games bar Ghost Trick. Playrate is relevant when it's as low as Ghost Trick's is, and a lot of P4G voters who didn't play it are just treating it like regular Persona 4 in all likelihood so its actual playrate is the thing that's irrelevant. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativename 04/01/20 9:15:42 PM #188: |
Team Rocket Elite posted...
Those are the numbers that will be used for the url for the next few match pictures. After MetalmindStats's hint I was able to also figure out the pattern.What's the pattern? Is this some TRE industrial complex deep state secret LOL. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheCodeisBosco 04/01/20 9:16:57 PM #189: |
I believe XCOM 2 was overseeded by a fair amount here; I can't imagine it's worth jack to GameFAQs voters. With that in mind, I still expect GTA to win Cuphead's soul contract, especially if the latter continues to tumble like this.
I'd love to see Cuphead win, though. I have no beef with GTA, but Cuphead is pure gaming magic and in my all-time top ten. --- The music was thud-like. The music was... thud-like. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 04/01/20 9:18:20 PM #190: |
creativename posted...
I do think the exposure factor is outweighing the anti-vote factor. But, I suspect bracket voters are the big reason Undertale did so well with registered voters. --- Link isn't the only one who kicks ass. Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 04/01/20 9:19:39 PM #191: |
creativename posted...
I don't want to steal MetalmindStats's thunder so I'm leaving it up to him to decide when he wants to reveal how it works. --- Link isn't the only one who kicks ass. Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 04/01/20 9:20:51 PM #192: |
I too figured it out with the hint
106042 Clever! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to Advokaiser, the winner of the Character Battle X guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 04/01/20 9:21:17 PM #193: |
XCOM
Baba FTL Ghost Trick That's the pretty clear order of operations here --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and hellboy" - trancer1 lol xstats ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 04/01/20 9:21:26 PM #194: |
Undertale's base strength is pretty low as is, so any sort of anti-voting will definitely hurt it. It won't be as bad as Draven but I believe it's a measurable amount of voters.
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foxhead84 04/01/20 9:23:05 PM #195: |
Yuri_LowelI posted...
You had GTAV to win the entire Division? lol Guru : Grand Theft Auto V - 74 (52.11%) Persona 4 Golden - 46 (32.39%) Red Dead Redemption - 19 (13.38%) Cuphead - 3 (2.11%) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 04/01/20 9:24:11 PM #196: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
Posting this here again for anyone who thinks Undertale isn't antivoted It's a thing, but it's also being exaggerated. First you aren't taking into account the exposure it got leading to people playing it and liking it (new fans) and second anti-voters voting for a game they already like or care enough over a game they never heard or cared about aren't anti-voters. --- Game of the Decade 2 - Current Score: 19/24 Today's Picks: GTAV, Cuphead, P4G, RDR ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 04/01/20 9:25:57 PM #197: |
charmander6000 posted...
It's a thing, but it's also being exaggerated. First you aren't taking into account the exposure it got leading to people playing it and liking it (new fans) and second anti-voters voting for a game they already like or care enough over a game they never heard or cared about aren't anti-voters. Sure, but people have to vote in all 4 matches regardless, and that hurts Undertale more than it helps it for voters who were here in 2015 if the voter hasn't played either game. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MechanicalWall 04/01/20 9:28:57 PM #198: |
I would absolutely take FTL over Ghost Trick and Baba is You
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pjbasis 04/01/20 9:30:31 PM #199: |
Rockstar still climbing though! They might be able to squeeze out a P4 port!
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The_Ctes 04/01/20 9:31:27 PM #200: |
charmander6000 posted...
It's a thing, but it's also being exaggerated. First you aren't taking into account the exposure it got leading to people playing it and liking it (new fans) and second anti-voters voting for a game they already like or care enough over a game they never heard or cared about aren't anti-voters. I believe I never stated the second part. I must also add that I don't actually think +20% of voters did so, but I'd be damn surprised if the antivoting didn't flip the result when it was that close. It's definitely a good part. The exposure part is true, but OoT and FF are to some part antivoted from being previous winners, so there's also that. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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