Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1337 *leet edition*

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Every time Yuri posts, Vesperia falls further in the Tales rankings.

gamer man posted...

Ya I have bloodborne > ME2 and I was curious if people would feel that had a decent shot or if I had made a grave mistake

Its possible. But we won't know until the next round.

Bloodborne and every souls like game has looked good. Even Nioh.


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you know, you guys don't need to respond to him!

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Every time Yuri posts, Vesperia falls further in the Tales rankings.

Impossible. Vesperia cant fallen below 2nd. And i think it will be #1 soon. Its had enough remasters.

Most of Vesperias Strength pre 2018 was being a 360 exclusive game.

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Kotetsu534 posted...

The guru was 132-10 in favour of Batman. Maybe there was a vocal minority...

Not that I know of. Batman was pretty much considered a lock.
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Time for abyss to take its rightful spot is number one

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I still think Batman should've faced Spider-Man!

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

This is Gamefaqs.com where Chrono Trigger is amongst Elite tier game

So going on about how many people have played it

Also of course Xenoblade 2 sold more. It was riding off the hype of 1 and was on a more popular platform. Wii was dead by the time Xenoblade came out and was delayed 2 years

Watch Xeno1 outsell Xeno 2 comfortably on Switch in lifetime sales.

Stop bringing Sales into a Gamefaqs contest discussion. They mean fuck all.

How may copies has Diablo 3 sold across ALL platforms?

How many copies has Zero escape sold?

yeah thought so.

Chrono Trigger has a high playrate here through emulation. Bad example.

Dark Souls vs. Hotline Miami
Registered Vote Result:
Dark Souls - 7140 (83.12%)
Hotline Miami - 1450 (16.88%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Dark Souls - 5800 (82.66%)
Hotline Miami - 1217 (17.34%)

Rocket League vs. Dragon Ball FighterZ
Registered Vote Result:
Rocket League - 4473 (52.07%)
Dragon Ball FighterZ - 4117 (47.93%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Rocket League - 3552 (50.66%)
Dragon Ball FighterZ - 3460 (49.34%)

Yakuza 0 vs. The Witness
Registered Vote Result:
Yakuza 0 - 6691 (77.90%)
The Witness - 1898 (22.10%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Yakuza 0 - 5345 (76.15%)
The Witness - 1674 (23.85%)

Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain vs. Dead Cells
Registered Vote Result:
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 6247 (72.74%)
Dead Cells - 2341 (27.26%)

Anonymous Vote Result:
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 5048 (71.94%)
Dead Cells - 1969 (28.06%)

Pretty small splits today, with none of them exceeding 2%. Yakuza 0 had the largest split at 1.75% favoring registered users more.

Rocket League did almost 1.5% better with registered users. In a match that was likely expected to be close, registered users with a bracket are far more hesitant to vote against their bracket, and Rocket League was the overall bracket favorite here.

Extra info and past results - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFS3SfH6sAhPdS85H7BpuFIkr9SayeF7AhMw-wrEBng/pub
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creativename posted...

Chrono Trigger has a high playrate here through emulation. Bad example.

It does?!

Well, I can finally feel not-bad about not being able to play it in its prime day and therefore not having to pay $150 for a real cartridge!

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Advokaiser posted...

Brawl had the biggest fall from grace, imo.

Nah, Brawl would stomp MGS4 and they were dead even in 2008.

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I've always been curious how well SSBB and SSB4 would do today. But other people don't seem particularly interested so they will likely never make a contest again.
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lordjers posted...

I still think Batman should've faced Spider-Man!

And Spider-Man could've claimed a rightful victory!

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ninkendo posted...

Time for abyss to take its rightful spot is number one

It's always been #1!

In contention with Berseria, now.

I feel much better now about having picked XBC2 seeing it's within 55/45. It was an initial gut pick that I made the day the bracket came out, and I had no idea that Batman game was supposed to be popular. (I didn't read any analysis either)

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

heavy rain comes to mind for me

i remember it being kind of a big deal when it came out and now its mostly just a punchline

Okay, nevermind, this is the correct answer.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Nah, Brawl would stomp MGS4 and they were dead even in 2008.

But you just said MGS4 had the biggest fall from grace. How was it dead then?

And I seriously doubt Brawl stomps MGS4.

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Haste_2 posted...

I feel much better now about having picked XBC2 seeing it's within 55/45. It was an initial gut pick that I made the day the bracket came out, and I had no idea that Batman game was supposed to be popular. (I didn't read any analysis either)

Yeah, I originally had 2enoblade, but then I remembered Asylum did well in GotD and Arkham City had a low key impressive performance on MMX that we didn't realize was actually good until we saw every other SNES game go on a tear in that contest.

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Wow would spider-man do this bad

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*checks polls*

More optimistic about Xenoblade winning its division now! Holy crap, the sequel is so much less regarded than the original.

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XC2 has a bad case of the animes.

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creativename posted...

Chrono Trigger has a high playrate here through emulation. Bad example.

you just said here? wheres the evidence more people here played Xenoblade 2?

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Haste_2 posted...

I feel much better now about having picked XBC2 seeing it's within 55/45. It was an initial gut pick that I made the day the bracket came out, and I had no idea that Batman game was supposed to be popular. (I didn't read any analysis either)

Its BAtman

And my reason for XB2 pick is simple

overhyped switch JRPG.

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pjbasis posted...

Wow would spider-man do this bad

We don't know

What did Spiderman do in the first round? I mean Batman could have done equally as well.

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

*checks polls*

More optimistic about Xenoblade winning its division now! Holy crap, the sequel is so much less regarded than the original.

remember though, Xenoblade is a late Wii game. thats basically like being a Wii U game.

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Advokaiser posted...

But you just said MGS4 had the biggest fall from grace. How was it dead then?

Dead even meaning they went 50/50 in multiple polls in 2008 and 2009

and Brawl would absolutely stomp MGS4; it may be obsolete but Smash fans will still vote for it
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It's also a late 3DS game that's *New* 3DS exclusive. I wonder how strong Xenoblade would be if people could actually play the game.
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Big Bob posted...

XC2 has a bad case of the animes.

Xenoblade 1 has the perfect balance of 'anime'. It stops a healthy distance before crossing the 'you have gone too far' sign, enough to give the game a fun tone while retaining credibility. I don't get second-hand embarrassment from Xenoblade 1. Its sequel...not so much.

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transcience posted...

remember though, Xenoblade is a late Wii game. thats basically like being a Wii U game.

Doesn't matter. Unless you're being sarcastic, Persona 4 was a late PS2 game and look at what it has become.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

It's also a late 3DS game that's *New* 3DS exclusive. I wonder how strong Xenoblade would be if people could actually play the game.

Just need Allen to delay the contest for another 2-3 months and that issue will be solved.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

It's also a late 3DS game that's *New* 3DS exclusive. I wonder how strong Xenoblade would be if people could actually play the game.

yeah the New 3DS thing was stupid

but I doubt Xenoblade 2 is that much weaker than 1

that 2017 GOTY is low-key kinda impressive in the way that Shepard staying in double digits against Link/Draven was impressive
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Advokaiser posted...

Doesn't matter. Unless you're being sarcastic, Persona 4 was a late PS2 game and look at what it has become.

it took several years and spinoffs and animes and ports and LPs for it to become what it is now!

in 2010 it was basically equal to Dead Rising and TWEWY

Xenoblade will get there with the Switch port, probably, but it's not there yet
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Advokaiser posted...

Doesn't matter. Unless you're being sarcastic, Persona 4 was a late PS2 game and look at what it has become.

This is actually a great comparison because P4 was way weaker when it had just came out than it is now.

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LeonhartFour posted...

yeah the New 3DS thing was stupid

but I doubt Xenoblade 2 is that much weaker than 1

that 2017 GOTY is low-key kinda impressive in the way that Shepard staying in double digits against Link/Draven was impressive

Define much weaker

Also anything you say about Xenoblade i won't take seriously. You've done nothing but underplay it entire contest using stats from 2015. YEt here it is going to make it to the last 16 with ease. It would take down just about every JRPG this contest bar Persoan 5 most likely.

Xenoblade 2 isn't even on the same level as Xenoblade 1. Its not "a bit " weaker. Its much much weaker.

Advokaiser posted...

Doesn't matter. Unless you're being sarcastic, Persona 4 was a late PS2 game and look at what it has become.

Hell P4G is a Vita game.

Also wii U games being weak has more to do with the games themselves

Mario 3D world
Smash 4
DK tropical Freeze

Not exactly juggernauts.

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So... If I made my calculations right, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is worth 27.56% on Mario Odyssey based on this poll:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6946-best-of-2017-switch

Batman being doubled by Odyssey, or at the very least holding 30%, doesn't sound so bad, does it?

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Ah yes, the legendary 1337 topic! ^_^

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Well that's SMO and Xenoblade 2 getting SFF'd and LFF'd by BotW. You can't really read anything from that poll except that BotW is a monster.
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Jesus I thought I was being too hard on Batman when I gave it a 62% here. Thank God Bioshock is looking worse (?) And WOW Diablo sucks

This is like the inverse of that RE2/DOOM/Bloodborne day where they all broke 80%; all the top seeds here look kinda shitty other than TLOU (although I would take Hotline Miami over Crusader Kings so Dark Souls might not get upset in Division finals)

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Advokaiser posted...

So... If I made my calculations right, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is worth 27.56% on Mario Odyssey based on this poll:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6946-best-of-2017-switch

Batman being doubled by Odyssey, or at the very least holding 30%, doesn't sound so bad, does it?

There is ridiculous Switch LFF in this poll.

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I mean timing of release doesn't always correlate with strength. Majora's Mask won the last game of the decade despite coming out at the end of the Nintendo 64 lifecycle.

Shulk also looked a lot better in 2018 vs. 2013 so there's an argument to be made that XBC is stronger than what it did in 2015. Smash 4 recognition probably doesn't hurt.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Define much weaker

Also anything you say about Xenoblade i won't take seriously.

Good

Then that means you can do me a favor and never respond to my posts ever again


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Aw, Passover means I missed the first minute where Virtue's Last Reward was PWNING Diablo.

(I write "pwning" regardless of it being the 1337th topic.)

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Leonhart4 posted...

Good

Then that means you can do me a favor and never respond to my posts ever again

Don't worry. I'll let Xenoblades awesome performances do the talking for me. But you'll probably deny everything you've said about it

I only do it because you're in this persistent mode of being in Denial about its strength. When we've clearly seen the recent Switch announcement have huge effect on its popularity.

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You realize that my identity isn't wrapped up in whether I get matches right, unlike you and BT, right?

I literally don't care if I'm wrong about Xenoblade and it would be silly to deny it anyway considering I'm doing public analyses with the Analysis Crew for literally every match

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does Yuri get commission on xenoblade sales or something

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Diablo III reaching for that doubling.

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Man did I underestimate Diablo III. Thought it was outright hated.

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its up against a visual novel, is this actually impressive?

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

its up against a visual novel, is this actually impressive?

ME2 got in the high 70s against it in 2015, so no, this is a bad performance.

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