Current Events > Street Fighter V: What went wrong?

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Why is it a disappointment?

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no Q

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What are you talking about? It has a huge fanbase and pro gamers stream every day.

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I blame the hit sound effects.

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bad launch

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Under Night superior

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The game launched at $60 unfinished.

It focused only on the Competitive community instead of having options for all types of gamers.

It's a symbol of everything wrong with Modern gaming. Release something unfinished and finish it with craploads of DLC.

It had no dedicated Arcade mode until way later.

It wasn't as good as IV. (IMO)

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atomofish posted...

It focused only on the Competitive community instead of having options for all types of gamers.

by reducing skill gap? where are 1 frame links?

Making it too accessible, the weak initial roster.
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id rather have a solid base game and a bunch of updates like the previous games over the weak ass launch and painful trickle of content.

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It's now a fantastic purchase with Championship Edition. At launch it was just far too barebones.

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they launched a barebones game for cpt. hella boring to watch (at the time anyway). fishing for crush counters and doing the same combos everyone else does is lame. you won't get a situation where you have someone playing sf4 guile like dieminion, and then completely opposite like nuckledu. everyone is going to play guile the same.

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pauIie posted...

they launched a barebones game for cpt. hella boring to watch (at the time anyway). fishing for crush counters and doing the same combos everyone else does is lame. you won't get a situation where you have someone playing sf4 guile like dieminion, and then completely opposite like nuckledu. everyone is going to play guile the same.

Fchamp says its his least favorite fighting game because it has no freedom

Because no Dan

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It had a rough rocky start, but of course like most games they just keep piling on new content to it and now it's in an acceptable state. What really surprises me is how well it's doing in the FGC considering how limiting the gameplay is in comparison to SF4, where you could pull off more impressive combo's and show more uniqueness. I stopped watching SF5 tournaments because everyone does the same optimal combo's and moves.

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- Prioritized Esports vs a good complete product.
- Ultra Street Fighter 4 finished off with 44 characters, tons of content in 2014-2015. SFV launched with 16 characters with barely any single player.
- Despite only having 16 characters at launch, DLC characters started coming in a month later. As of now 40% of the DLC characters were in the previous game
- Apparently the betas were good and fun, and the tone all the cool shit down.
- Game is kinda ugly
- Took 4 years to get to a level where it even came close to SF4.
- Online is still bad, despite some competition having a answer to better online, and Capcom releasing another game that has good online

Game has no soul.

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Unknown5uspect posted...

Game has no soul.

It has soul.

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Horrendous planning and one of the shittiest live service-esque business models of all time if not for a certain game called Anthem being the defacto example.

How do you fuck up so bad forgetting to include an arcade mode seriously, Capcom.

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Being a PS4 exclusive probably didn't help.

I know Sony funded the game but still. No PC or Switch fanbase (and I guess Xbone? lol) probably made a decent difference in interest.

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LostForest posted...

Being a PS4 exclusive probably didn't help.

I know Sony funded the game but still. No PC or Switch fanbase (and I guess Xbone? lol) probably made a decent difference in interest.

SFV launched on PC at the same time as PS4 (they even have crossplay with one another). Plenty of people play it on PC.

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haters will get left behind
BMXJouster posted...

SFV launched on PC at the same time as PS4 (they even have crossplay with one another). Plenty of people play it on PC.

1847 people ingame currently on PC

its p dead as a PC title

ayane225 posted...

Fchamp says its his least favorite fighting game because it has no freedom

i believe it.

OudeGeuze posted...

haters will get left behind

lmao


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Severe lack of Dan

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OudeGeuze posted...

haters will get left behind

1847 people ingame currently on PC

its p dead as a PC title

Its a fighting game. That is typical.

Look at MK11. It outsold SF5 by a wild margin despite being a year old.

Already less players.

atomofish posted...

The game launched at $60 unfinished.

It focused only on the Competitive community instead of having options for all types of gamers.

It's a symbol of everything wrong with Modern gaming. Release something unfinished and finish it with craploads of DLC.

It had no dedicated Arcade mode until way later.

It wasn't as good as IV. (IMO)

exactly.

it was never conceived as a videogame, it was conceived as a skeleton of a game to which they could attach a shitload of DLC to maximize profit.

if Mario Bros 3 were developed that way you would have 3 stages, the boom boom castle and the bowser castle, thats it. All Mario suits would be DLC, you would have only 3 enemies (Goomba and green koopa) and you would have to download a season pass to be able to play as Luigi, see the ending or use the fire flower

It's just a shitty fighting game, plain and simple. I'd rather play sf4,3 or 2 over it. How it has fans to this day I'll never know. One of the biggest disappointments for me this generation. It took doom 2016 to wash the taste of that God awful shit out of my mouth.

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the biggest issue is that you cant be creative. everyone character has one correct way to play them and leaves basically no room for player expression.
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MwarriorHiei posted...

the biggest issue is that you cant be creative. everyone character has one correct way to play them and leaves basically no room for player expression.

Nice copy paste

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How many of you actually played SF5 as it evolved and watched tournaments for it?

It was a fun ride.

A lot of pros still play it and like it.

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Every fucking matchup looks the same every time. It's just boring.

SF4 had plenty of problems, but you could tell players apart solely by how they played. In 5, there's just the one optimal way to play, with variety solely coming from attempted reads. V trigger's too strong, even with how much it's been nerfed, deathless chip damage continues to be stupid, and a lot of the characters themselves are boring.

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Stallion_Prime posted...

Nice copy paste

thanks
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They lost the casuals completely. Every casual went to MK now.

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i played it with some bros recently on ps4 and got my shit kicked in but i actually enjoyed it

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BMXJouster posted...

SFV launched on PC at the same time as PS4 (they even have crossplay with one another). Plenty of people play it on PC.

Holy shit for real? I never knew that, my mistake!

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PowerOats posted...

Ultra Street Fighter 4 finished off with 44 characters, tons of content in 2014-2015. SFV launched with 16 characters with barely any single player.

Is it fair to compare a fourth release to a first release?

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

Is it fair to compare a fourth release to a first release?

Smash Ultimate was released with every character that was in Smash Wii U plus extras.

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Street Fighter is almost solely a professional game at this point.

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By not giving everyone more than 1 super. Like wtf?

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The game also doesn't get nearly enough hate for how bad V skill is. For most of the roster it feels like they just ripped one of their classic moves away and assigned it to V skill rather than actually create something new for them to match the new mechanic. It felt incredibly lazy.

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Blue_Target posted...

Smash Ultimate was released with every character that was in Smash Wii U plus extras.

That was a one time thing. Everyone is back was the gimmick of the game. Brawl and Sm4sh cut characters and content.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

That was a one time thing. Everyone is back was the gimmick of the game. Brawl and Sm4sh cut characters and content.

The point is that every new Smash came with more characters than the last one. Street Fighter V had the same amount of character as Super Street Fighter 2 for SNES. A game from 1994. So it is fair to compare a fourth release to a first release.

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Capcom

Blue_Target posted...

The point is that every new Smash came with more characters than the last one. Street Fighter V had the same amount of character as Super Street Fighter 2 for SNES. A game from 1994. So it is fair to compare a fourth release to a first release.

Smash doesnt release version updates like Street Fighter. There are about 10 versions of SF2, 3 versions of Alpha, 3 versions SF3, and 4 versions of SF4.

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I really don't like how certain gamers absolve companies from selling their games piece meal. "It's great now!" No, it's not. Stuff like this or Fallout 76 is just gamers telling companies that this behavior is ok.

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I don't really play fighting games, but what did SF4 do better than SF5 that encourage this "unique player expression"?

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I think this is the video that brings up some good points why SFV isn't as well-liked, can't listen rn since I'm on calls though to confirm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgA_nK_w3A

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