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Politics 05/03/20 5:15:42 AM #1:	They act like the police murder innocent people and get away with it but then say only the police should have guns. That doesn't really make a lot of sense. I think we should arm the proletariat! --- (= <cite>Politics posted [p:938527200] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>They act like the police murder innocent people and get away with it but then say only the police should have guns. That doesn't really make a lot of sense. I think we should arm the proletariat! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 05/03/20 5:17:15 AM #2:	The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:938527235] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 05/03/20 5:22:20 AM #3:	"We don't want a COMPLETE gun ban, just everything except single shot shotguns and six shot revolvers." Also, I've seen the vast majority of people on CE who support these bans say that only police should have "assault weapons" or high cap pistols. Which, like OP said, makes no fucking sense when these same people are supposedly in fear of the police. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938527302] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>"We don't want a COMPLETE gun ban, just everything except single shot shotguns and six shot revolvers." Also, I've seen the vast majority of people on CE who support these bans say that only police should have "assault weapons" or high cap pistols. Which, like OP said, makes no fucking sense when these same people are supposedly in fear of the police. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 05/03/20 5:22:51 AM #4:	ButteryMales posted... The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion. The problem is it's one of the loudest here, and no one that carries it has the capacity to actually try and debate their position in good faith. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:938527310] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion.</quote> The problem is it's one of the loudest here, and no one that carries it has the capacity to actually try and debate their position in good faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ButteryMales 05/03/20 5:29:39 AM #6:	ChuckSDeuces posted... "We don't want a COMPLETE gun ban, just everything except single shot shotguns and six shot revolvers." Also, I've seen the vast majority of people on CE who support these bans say that only police should have "assault weapons" or high cap pistols. Which, like OP said, makes no fucking sense when these same people are supposedly in fear of the police. You think we should unarmed police? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:938527419] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted...</cite><quote>"We don't want a COMPLETE gun ban, just everything except single shot shotguns and six shot revolvers." Also, I've seen the vast majority of people on CE who support these bans say that only police should have "assault weapons" or high cap pistols. Which, like OP said, makes no fucking sense when these same people are supposedly in fear of the police.</quote>You think we should unarmed police?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Politics 05/03/20 5:32:19 AM #7:	ButteryMales posted... You think we should unarmed police? I do. --- (= <cite>Politics posted [p:938527477] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>You think we should unarmed police?</quote> I do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChuckSDeuces 05/03/20 5:36:45 AM #8:	ButteryMales posted... You think we should unarmed police? No, i think we shouldn't disarm citizens. There's no need for citizens to have full auto weapons, I agree with this. Funny enough, they already can't own them despite everyone calling everything an "assault weapon" now. --- Charles Stanley Deuces Esq. <cite>ChuckSDeuces posted [p:938527542] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>You think we should unarmed police?</quote> No, i think we shouldn't disarm citizens. There's no need for citizens to have full auto weapons, I agree with this. Funny enough, they already can't own them despite everyone calling everything an "assault weapon" now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 05/03/20 5:40:20 AM #9:	I love the whole you cant change the second amendment argument which seems to always be used by people who dont know what amendment means. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:938527598] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>I love the whole you cant change the second amendment argument which seems to always be used by people who dont know what amendment means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/03/20 5:52:58 AM #10:	I have noticed a lot of liberals are okay with the state monopolizing violence, even though that force they're arming historically has stood in the face of social progress. I get banning guns, but to keep the police armed is a fucking joke. --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:938527761] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>I have noticed a lot of liberals are okay with the state monopolizing violence, even though that force they're arming historically has stood in the face of social progress. I get banning guns, but to keep the police armed is a fucking joke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 05/03/20 1:24:24 PM #12:	Malcrasternus posted... The problem is it's one of the loudest here, and no one that carries it has the capacity to actually try and debate their position in good faith. Ive never seen this opinion on here --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:938540484] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Malcrasternus posted... </cite> <quote>The problem is it's one of the loudest here, and no one that carries it has the capacity to actually try and debate their position in good faith.</quote> Ive never seen this opinion on here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 05/03/20 1:25:11 PM #13:	ButteryMales posted... The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion. You are lying. You are a liar. --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. https://imgur.com/jo511lG <cite>deupd_u posted [p:938540518] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>The amount of people that want a complete gun ban is very miniscule. Stop pretending this is a common opinion.</quote>You are lying. You are a liar. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/03/20 1:29:48 PM #14:	Maybe they want to fix the police and gun violence too --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:938540751] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Maybe they want to fix the police and gun violence too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 05/03/20 1:45:46 PM #15:	This is my opinion. In order to buy, own, or use someone else's gun you need to have a gun license. One of the requirements to get one should be a criminal background check (one that's more extensive and thorough than the ones we have now). And voluntarily submitting all mental health records should also be a requirement of getting a gun license. Once you get the license you must also sign a waiver stating you wont let anyone borrow or use your gun who doesn't have a license too. And if your gun is stolen you must report it immediately. If you can do these simple things you can own an automatic assault rifle for all I care. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:938541507] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>This is my opinion. In order to buy, own, or use someone else's gun you need to have a gun license. One of the requirements to get one should be a criminal background check (one that's more extensive and thorough than the ones we have now). And voluntarily submitting all mental health records should also be a requirement of getting a gun license. Once you get the license you must also sign a waiver stating you wont let anyone borrow or use your gun who doesn't have a license too. And if your gun is stolen you must report it immediately. If you can do these simple things you can own an automatic assault rifle for all I care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 05/03/20 1:47:22 PM #16:	Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment, just like issuing marriage licenses. The fact that you need a license for something implies it's a privilege and not a right. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:938541589] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment, just like issuing marriage licenses. The fact that you need a license for something implies it's a privilege and not a right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 05/03/20 1:50:40 PM #17:	Tropicalwood posted... Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment. I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:938541752] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Tropicalwood posted... </cite> <quote>Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment.</quote>I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 05/03/20 1:53:13 PM #18:	I'm a progressive/leftist/whatever and never understood it. We got massive corruption in our government, the rich controlling everything, a wage gap that is ever widening abusive and murderous cops who are becoming more and more militarized and trigger happy, fascism/neo nazism/white supremacy on the rise with those types infiltrating the military and law enforcement, said folks carrying guns and trying to terrorize and intimidate non-Republicans, literal concentration camps, etc and they want to limit or ultimately erase the ability to fight against all that. We got to fix all that first before we crack down on guns. The right has the correct idea on guns for the most part, but they're a bunch of hypocritical sheep who support the tyranny they are supposedly against. The views on guns here are totally backwards. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:938541875] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>I'm a progressive/leftist/whatever and never understood it. We got massive corruption in our government, the rich controlling everything, a wage gap that is ever widening abusive and murderous cops who are becoming more and more militarized and trigger happy, fascism/neo nazism/white supremacy on the rise with those types infiltrating the military and law enforcement, said folks carrying guns and trying to terrorize and intimidate non-Republicans, literal concentration camps, etc and they want to limit or ultimately erase the ability to fight against all that. We got to fix all that first before we crack down on guns. The right has the correct idea on guns for the most part, but they're a bunch of hypocritical sheep who support the tyranny they are supposedly against. The views on guns here are totally backwards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 05/03/20 1:54:12 PM #19:	ChuckSDeuces posted... Funny enough, they already can't own them despite everyone calling everything an "assault weapon" now. You can have a fully automatic weapon if you pay for the stamp, give up some of your 4th amendment rights, and are willing pay out of the ass and fill out tons of paperwork Some FFL dealers can even "make" (drill third hole) fully automatic weapons and them be legal. That is the problem with gun laws in America period. If you have enough money you can do whatever you want with guns including concealing them in NYC or Chicago. Pay off the cops and you're good to go. Anthony Cumia has been toting a pistol in NYC for over 20 years. A normal person gets 5 years in prison for that --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:938541918] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ChuckSDeuces posted... </cite> <quote>Funny enough, they already can't own them despite everyone calling everything an "assault weapon" now.</quote> You can have a fully automatic weapon if you pay for the stamp, give up some of your 4th amendment rights, and are willing pay out of the ass and fill out tons of paperwork Some FFL dealers can even "make" (drill third hole) fully automatic weapons and them be legal. That is the problem with gun laws in America period. If you have enough money you can do whatever you want with guns including concealing them in NYC or Chicago. Pay off the cops and you're good to go. Anthony Cumia has been toting a pistol in NYC for over 20 years. A normal person gets 5 years in prison for that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 05/03/20 1:54:34 PM #20:	also, registration of firearms is also to keep track of them, such as in the event one is recovered or found to have been used in a crime. hence why filing off serial numbers is very naughty <cite>treewojima posted [p:938541942] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>also, registration of firearms is also to keep track of them, such as in the event one is recovered or found to have been used in a crime. hence why filing off serial numbers is very naughty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/03/20 1:54:49 PM #21:	DarkProto05 posted... I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun. Someone with a felony record would be red flagged during the required background check. Mental illness is protected from red flagging by HIPAA. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:938541953] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite> <quote>I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun.</quote> Someone with a felony record would be red flagged during the required background check. Mental illness is protected from red flagging by HIPAA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMog123 05/03/20 1:54:50 PM #22:	If the average citizen cannot access guns the police have less reason to have a fear-violence response. If the police have less of a reason to respond with violence, people would be more receptive to genuine criticisms against them. scorpion41 posted... Someone with a felony record would be red flagged during the required background check. Mental illness is protected from red flagging by HIPAA. Depends on the state, currently. HIPAA can be modified --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif <cite>ChocoboMog123 posted [p:938541955] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>If the average citizen cannot access guns the police have less reason to have a fear-violence response. If the police have less of a reason to respond with violence, people would be more receptive to genuine criticisms against them. <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite>Someone with a felony record would be red flagged during the required background check. Mental illness is protected from red flagging by HIPAA.</quote>Depends on the state, currently. HIPAA can be modified </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 05/03/20 1:58:30 PM #23:	Politics posted... That doesn't really make a lot of sense. I think we should arm the proletariat! Liberals don't really care about the proletariat. Some socialists/communists are into arming them, though. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:938542125] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Politics posted... </cite> <quote>That doesn't really make a lot of sense. I think we should arm the proletariat!</quote>Liberals don't really care about the proletariat. Some socialists/communists are into arming them, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 05/03/20 1:58:42 PM #24:	DarkProto05 posted... I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun. No it isn't, your false sense of security does nothing but pester the overwhelming majority of gun owners. In fact, the fact that you know so little about how gun sales in this country to the point you think it's just an issue of showing an id and they'll sell you anything. You know those agents in charge of enforcing the laws currently on the book are responsible for countless gun deaths, and your brilliant idea is to give them more power. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:938542134] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite> <quote>I anticipated this response but didn't expect it to come so soon. Safety is more important than the second amendment. Someone who has committed crimes or is suicidal should not be able to present an I.D. and just get a gun.</quote>No it isn't, your false sense of security does nothing but pester the overwhelming majority of gun owners. In fact, the fact that you know so little about how gun sales in this country to the point you think it's just an issue of showing an id and they'll sell you anything. You know those agents in charge of enforcing the laws currently on the book are responsible for countless gun deaths, and your brilliant idea is to give them more power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 05/03/20 2:00:29 PM #25:	They're basically wearing leftist big boy pants beneath their liberal diapers. --- There are no cats in America. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:938542234] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>They're basically wearing leftist big boy pants beneath their liberal diapers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RustyFerret 05/03/20 2:01:45 PM #26:	Gun control has historically been racist in it's implementation which is the biggest hurdle for liberals to implement it. So yes when someone says only cops should have high powered weaponry it makes me feel like people are insensitive to minority groups that are disproportionately affected by police violence. <cite>RustyFerret posted [p:938542294] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Gun control has historically been racist in it's implementation which is the biggest hurdle for liberals to implement it. So yes when someone says only cops should have high powered weaponry it makes me feel like people are insensitive to minority groups that are disproportionately affected by police violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 05/03/20 2:08:01 PM #27:	Tropicalwood posted... No it isn't, your false sense of security does nothing but pester the overwhelming majority of gun owners. In fact, the fact that you know so little about how gun sales in this country to the point you think it's just an issue of showing an id and they'll sell you anything. You know those agents in charge of enforcing the laws currently on the book are responsible for countless gun deaths, and your brilliant idea is to give them more power. A little inconvenience to you isn't as important as people's lives, sorry. No one is trying to take your guns or make the police more powerful. We just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands and the cost is a little inconvenience to good gun owners like yourself. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:938542591] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Tropicalwood posted... </cite> <quote>No it isn't, your false sense of security does nothing but pester the overwhelming majority of gun owners. In fact, the fact that you know so little about how gun sales in this country to the point you think it's just an issue of showing an id and they'll sell you anything. You know those agents in charge of enforcing the laws currently on the book are responsible for countless gun deaths, and your brilliant idea is to give them more power.</quote>A little inconvenience to you isn't as important as people's lives, sorry. No one is trying to take your guns or make the police more powerful. We just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands and the cost is a little inconvenience to good gun owners like yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 05/03/20 2:09:48 PM #28:	Didn't we JUST have a topic about Canada's ban where most of the regular crowd were laughing at the lack of a definition of "assault weapons" and were just glad that popular rifles were being banned? --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:938542667] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Didn't we JUST have a topic about Canada's ban where most of the regular crowd were laughing at the lack of a definition of "assault weapons" and were just glad that popular rifles were being banned? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordofmud 05/03/20 2:12:53 PM #29:	As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in. --- I know, indeed, the evil of that I purpose; but my inclination gets the better of my judgment. - Euripides <cite>lordofmud posted [p:938542834] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 05/03/20 2:14:38 PM #30:	lordofmud posted... As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in. You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:938542921] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>lordofmud posted... </cite> <quote>As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in.</quote>You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 05/03/20 2:15:26 PM #31:	DarkProto05 posted... A little inconvenience to you isn't as important as people's lives, sorry. No one is trying to take your guns or make the police more powerful. We just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands and the cost is a little inconvenience to good gun owners like yourself. Tell that to Randy Weaver after the ATF and FBI caused the deaths of his wife and son, and a U.S. Marshal over a 17inch shotgun barrel (that they made.) And maybe you should look up the Waco Siege and the ATF gunwalking scandal. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:938542953] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite> <quote>A little inconvenience to you isn't as important as people's lives, sorry. No one is trying to take your guns or make the police more powerful. We just want to keep guns out of the wrong hands and the cost is a little inconvenience to good gun owners like yourself.</quote>Tell that to Randy Weaver after the ATF and FBI caused the deaths of his wife and son, and a U.S. Marshal over a 17inch shotgun barrel (that they made.) And maybe you should look up the Waco Siege and the ATF gunwalking scandal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/03/20 2:15:58 PM #32:	lordofmud posted... As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in. Insurance on every weapon would make them impossible to own for some law-abiding Americans, which violates the 2A. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:938542980] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>lordofmud posted... </cite> <quote>As someone who believes in repeal of the 2nd I believe that police should also lose that priveledge. Special units would still have guns but just rank and file members would not. Since we aren't really to put down our murder sticks I would suggest insurance on every weapon. A monthly premium would be paid. Then if the the weapon was used to hurt someone there would be a fund set up to recompense them. Police officers would also be required to carry this insurance although the monthly premiums might be defeated by the city they work in.</quote> Insurance on every weapon would make them impossible to own for some law-abiding Americans, which violates the 2A. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Time_Rider 05/03/20 2:16:27 PM #33:	Politics posted... They act like the police murder innocent people and get away with it Some of them do. but then say only the police should have guns. These aren't mutually exclusive ideas like you think they are. --- "we love dancing.. and violence." https://youtu.be/KxbEBcq5tEc <cite>Time_Rider posted [p:938543004] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Politics posted... </cite> <quote>They act like the police murder innocent people and get away with it </quote> Some of them do. <quote>but then say only the police should have guns.</quote> These aren't mutually exclusive ideas like you think they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 05/03/20 2:16:31 PM #34:	And how many confrontations are going to happen when they have to go out into the streets and take guns away from people? Sure, you have the rich old people that think they need a gun in every room to be safe, but you also have young men holding guns in order to be protected while on the streets of Chicago or New York. How many more police shootings would happen when you go and try to take those guns away from those old people and those young men? --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:938543005] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>And how many confrontations are going to happen when they have to go out into the streets and take guns away from people? Sure, you have the rich old people that think they need a gun in every room to be safe, but you also have young men holding guns in order to be protected while on the streets of Chicago or New York. How many more police shootings would happen when you go and try to take those guns away from those old people and those young men? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordofmud 05/03/20 2:17:11 PM #35:	Defend themselves from what man? Most home intrusions are going to be from poor people (because, they are robbing you). So no one has a gun. --- I know, indeed, the evil of that I purpose; but my inclination gets the better of my judgment. - Euripides <cite>lordofmud posted [p:938543038] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Defend themselves from what man? Most home intrusions are going to be from poor people (because, they are robbing you). So no one has a gun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 05/03/20 2:17:31 PM #36:	ThePrinceFish posted... You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected. With my gun licensing plan in my previous post, a gun license and the process to get one should be free of charge. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:938543060] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted... </cite> <quote>You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected.</quote>With my gun licensing plan in my previous post, a gun license and the process to get one should be free of charge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Time_Rider 05/03/20 2:17:58 PM #37:	Tropicalwood posted... Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment, just like issuing marriage licenses. The fact that you need a license for something implies it's a privilege and not a right. You can always count on Tropicalwood for the worst take on any given subject. --- "we love dancing.. and violence." https://youtu.be/KxbEBcq5tEc <cite>Time_Rider posted [p:938543080] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Tropicalwood posted... </cite> <quote>Just the fact that you'd need a license to own a gun is a blatant violation of the second amendment, just like issuing marriage licenses. The fact that you need a license for something implies it's a privilege and not a right.</quote> You can always count on Tropicalwood for the worst take on any given subject. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lordofmud 05/03/20 2:18:57 PM #38:	scorpion41 posted... Insurance on every weapon would make them impossible to own for some law-abiding Americans, which violates the 2A. Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment! --- I know, indeed, the evil of that I purpose; but my inclination gets the better of my judgment. - Euripides <cite>lordofmud posted [p:938543119] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite> <quote>Insurance on every weapon would make them impossible to own for some law-abiding Americans, which violates the 2A.</quote>Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/03/20 2:19:31 PM #39:	As a so-called SJW, "assault weapons" are just guns that look scarier than others. There is no real logic to that line of argument. I'm totally cool with gun ownership. I just like background checks and maybe some purchase limits and mental wellness checks. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:938543149] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>As a so-called SJW, "assault weapons" are just guns that look scarier than others. There is no real logic to that line of argument. I'm totally cool with gun ownership. I just like background checks and maybe some purchase limits and mental wellness checks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 05/03/20 2:20:26 PM #40:	ThePrinceFish posted... You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected. I would also love to see him sign up to be a police officer in Memphis, St. Louis, Chicago, ATL, Baltimore, LA etc etc without a gun lol. If you took away the "rank and file" officers' guns they would all be like "fuck that I'm not going to poor neighborhoods" or they would quit. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:938543186] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>ThePrinceFish posted... </cite> <quote>You guys LOVE trying to make it impossible for poor people to exercise their right to defend themselves while ensuring that the wealthy are unaffected.</quote> I would also love to see him sign up to be a police officer in Memphis, St. Louis, Chicago, ATL, Baltimore, LA etc etc without a gun lol. If you took away the "rank and file" officers' guns they would all be like "fuck that I'm not going to poor neighborhoods" or they would quit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/03/20 2:22:16 PM #41:	When are we going to allow civilians to shoot cops in self-defense when they fear for their lives? They're only human. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:938543265] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>When are we going to allow civilians to shoot cops in self-defense when they fear for their lives? They're only human. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 05/03/20 2:24:54 PM #42:	Tropicalwood posted... Tell that to Randy Weaver after the ATF and FBI caused the deaths of his wife and son, and a U.S. Marshal over a 17inch shotgun barrel (that they made.) And maybe you should look up the Waco Siege and the ATF gunwalking scandal. What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:938543374] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Tropicalwood posted... </cite> <quote>Tell that to Randy Weaver after the ATF and FBI caused the deaths of his wife and son, and a U.S. Marshal over a 17inch shotgun barrel (that they made.) And maybe you should look up the Waco Siege and the ATF gunwalking scandal.</quote>What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Time_Rider 05/03/20 2:27:11 PM #43:	DarkProto05 posted... What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill. It doesn't, he just has no idea how to debate properly. --- "we love dancing.. and violence." https://youtu.be/KxbEBcq5tEc <cite>Time_Rider posted [p:938543470] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite> <quote>What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill.</quote> It doesn't, he just has no idea how to debate properly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 05/03/20 2:27:59 PM #44:	yemmy posted... If you took away the "rank and file" officers' guns they would all be like "fuck that I'm not going to poor neighborhoods" or they would quit. Oh yeah, keep talking dirty to me bby. --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:938543508] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>yemmy posted... </cite> <quote>If you took away the "rank and file" officers' guns they would all be like "fuck that I'm not going to poor neighborhoods" or they would quit.</quote> Oh yeah, keep talking dirty to me bby. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 05/03/20 2:30:15 PM #45:	lordofmud posted... Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment! A Mossberg Maverick 88 is $150 new and $100 used . If every gun was $800 maybe you'd have a point. A lot of AR-15s aren't even $800. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:938543611] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>lordofmud posted... </cite> <quote>Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment!</quote> A Mossberg Maverick 88 is $150 new and $100 used . If every gun was $800 maybe you'd have a point. A lot of AR-15s aren't even $800. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 05/03/20 2:39:06 PM #46:	DarkProto05 posted... What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill. Your plan is to revive a Jim Crow law. that empowers an agency known for abuse of power and willynilly opinion changes that create felony offenses overnight. For what? Maybe 30k~36k deaths per year, 2/3s of which are suicide (to which there are still countless other methods) and a good portion of the rest are gang related with stolen weapons. There also wouldn't be anything stopping some random lunatic since Sandy Hooks was stolen weapons and nobody else failed a background check. Even Canada's recent shooting was done with guns he didn't buy legally, yet Canada is still abusing their Health and Safety commission's powers to ban "assault weapons". --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:938544025] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>DarkProto05 posted... </cite> <quote>What does that have to do with anything I have said? I'm highly against taking guns away from law abiding citizens who aren't mentally ill.</quote>Your plan is to revive a Jim Crow law. that empowers an agency known for abuse of power and willynilly opinion changes that create felony offenses overnight. For what? Maybe 30k~36k deaths per year, 2/3s of which are suicide (to which there are still countless other methods) and a good portion of the rest are gang related with stolen weapons. There also wouldn't be anything stopping some random lunatic since Sandy Hooks was stolen weapons and nobody else failed a background check. Even Canada's recent shooting was done with guns he didn't buy legally, yet Canada is still abusing their Health and Safety commission's powers to ban "assault weapons". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/03/20 2:58:46 PM #47:	lordofmud posted... Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment! But, a decent shotgun or pistol, which most would actually purchase, is less than $300. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:938544952] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>lordofmud posted... </cite> <quote>Guns aren't free. So the fact that a Kel-tec KSG is $800 makes it impossible for mr minimum wage guy to buy one. 2nd amendment!</quote> But, a decent shotgun or pistol, which most would actually purchase, is less than $300. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Time_Rider 05/03/20 3:03:38 PM #48:	It's quite concerning when you see the correlation between the people with the worst opinions/education/stability also are the people who want and love guns the most. The most armed people are the ones you would want to be not armed at all, lol. America, fuck yea --- "we love dancing.. and violence." https://youtu.be/KxbEBcq5tEc <cite>Time_Rider posted [p:938545203] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>It's quite concerning when you see the correlation between the people with the worst opinions/education/stability also are the people who want and love guns the most. The most armed people are the ones you would want to be not armed at all, lol. America, fuck yea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcrasternus 05/03/20 4:19:35 PM #49:	Time_Rider posted... It's quite concerning when you see the correlation between the people with the worst opinions/education/stability also are the people who want and love guns the most. The most armed people are the ones you would want to be not armed at all, lol. America, fuck yea This very topic showed the ignorance pro gun control advocates can have, so. --- 4/15/1951 - 3/18/2014 <cite>Malcrasternus posted [p:938548924] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Time_Rider posted... </cite> <quote>It's quite concerning when you see the correlation between the people with the worst opinions/education/stability also are the people who want and love guns the most. The most armed people are the ones you would want to be not armed at all, lol. America, fuck yea</quote> This very topic showed the ignorance pro gun control advocates can have, so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 05/03/20 4:22:58 PM #50:	Malcrasternus posted... This very topic showed the ignorance pro gun control advocates can have, so. No, it didn't. This topic started on a false premise. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:938549065] in This is wh... [t:78652524]...</cite> <quote>Malcrasternus posted...</cite><quote>This very topic showed the ignorance pro gun control advocates can have, so.</quote>No, it didn't. This topic started on a false premise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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