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DanSmithK7
05/13/20 10:02:13 PM
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She can be an inspiring, hopeful character, like in the live action movies with Gadot.

I just saw injustice 2's bad ending, she is basically a b**** that brings out Superman's worst instincts and turns him into a tyrant, to the point she b****** at him for not killing Batman . She did this same thing in an animated movie too, I forgot which one.

She's not supposed to be a manipulative ass, wtf?
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boxington
05/13/20 10:09:11 PM
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that's how she was in the Injustice comic series, too, iirc.

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Darmik
05/13/20 10:10:29 PM
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Injustice 2 is a dark universe where Superman warps a lot of DC heroes into villains and they in turn warp him further into a villain.

I thought you were gonna say how Wonder Woman has never had her own game.

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DarthAragorn
05/13/20 10:11:28 PM
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I'm guessing you're talking about Flashpoint Paradox as the animated movie
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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:11:35 PM
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What was the first Wonder Woman video game? I'm sure there was probably a British computer game back in the 1980s (those existed for almost literally everything). But how long did it take for her to get a console game? She was in that weird DC fighting game (Task Force, not Injustice), but didn't get one of her own until... the movie tie-in?

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boxington
05/13/20 10:12:23 PM
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I'd like to see a Wonder Woman game inspired by God of War.

she has a sword and shield she sometimes throws around like Captain America, and instead of Blades of Chaos, she can use her magic rope thing.

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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:13:34 PM
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Bryfang posted...
The DCAU treated Diana great, I dunno where you're going with that one.

She didn't have her own series specifically because she was a girl.

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Darmik
05/13/20 10:16:31 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
What was the first Wonder Woman video game? I'm sure there was probably a British computer game back in the 1980s (those existed for almost literally everything). But how long did it take for her to get a console game? She was in that weird DC fighting game (Task Force, not Injustice), but didn't get one of her own until... the movie tie-in?

Hasn't happened yet.

I think there's a mobile tie-in game and that's it.

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AlisLandale
05/13/20 10:16:55 PM
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Bryfang posted...
The DCAU treated Diana great, I dunno where you're going with that one.

Not really. Timmverse Wonder Woman is a generic grrr me angry girl me fight Amazon archetype.

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DarthAragorn
05/13/20 10:17:50 PM
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It's not like she's the only major hero to not get a solo video game at least

Aside from Batman and Spider-Man almost nobody gets them
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CyricZ
05/13/20 10:18:56 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
Not really. Timmverse Wonder Woman is a generic grrr me angry girl me fight Amazon archetype.
C'mon man. Did you really watch that series?

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AlisLandale
05/13/20 10:20:38 PM
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CyricZ posted...
C'mon man. Did you really watch that series?

Im gonna be honest. I remember exactly two scenes with her in them.

one was her trying to fuck Batman. And the other was her about to beat the ever-loving shit out of two normal criminals because they annoyed her.

the rest is a blurry haze of lame how do we make girls cool to boys? Writing that never really showcased why shes a good character >_>

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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:24:34 PM
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Darmik posted...
Hasn't happened yet.

I think there's a mobile tie-in game and that's it.

She literally hasn't had a starring role in a video game yet?

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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:26:12 PM
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@Darmik

You're right. A GameFAQs search shows nothing. There's a Hentai Woman, but not a Wonder Woman. <____<

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Darmik
05/13/20 10:27:15 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
It's not like she's the only major hero to not get a solo video game at least

Aside from Batman and Spider-Man almost nobody gets them

I can't think of anyone bigger than Wonder Woman who hasn't had one unless you're talking about heroes who are new.

Even Aquaman has a game.

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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:40:57 PM
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Fantastic Four have had movie tie-ins, right?

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DarthAragorn
05/13/20 10:41:02 PM
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Darmik posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
It's not like she's the only major hero to not get a solo video game at least

Aside from Batman and Spider-Man almost nobody gets them

I can't think of anyone bigger than Wonder Woman who hasn't had one unless you're talking about heroes who are new.

Even Aquaman has a game.

I mean, as far as I remember fucking Superman has had one big solo game in the last 25 years and that was Superman 64
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DarthAragorn
05/13/20 10:41:35 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Fantastic Four have had movie tie-ins, right?

Honestly I don't count movie tie-ins because they're almost all crap
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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:41:42 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I mean, as far as I remember fucking Superman has had one big solo game in the last 25 years and that was Superman 64

Superman Returns had a game. He fought a giant robot and a tornado.

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Darmik
05/13/20 10:47:56 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I mean, as far as I remember fucking Superman has had one big solo game in the last 25 years and that was Superman 64

But he's had some.

Wonder Woman has had nothing. Not some weird shitty Atari game. Not a crappy movie or TV show tie-in.

Nothing.

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FortuneCookie
05/13/20 10:51:59 PM
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To be fair, even Batman got snubbed on Atari.

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DrizztLink
05/13/20 10:52:43 PM
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Bryfang posted...
The DCAU treated Diana great, I dunno where you're going with that one.

In Injustice though, Steve Trevor was a Nazi spy and killed one of Diana's Amazon sisters after she fell in love with him, Diana then killed him shortly after and because of that, she's WAY more jaded than the mainline Wonder Woman.
Yeah, EVERYBODY sucks in the Injustice universe.

Except John Constantine and that's because he's an absolute bastard in every universe and it's fantastic.

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Prismsblade
05/13/20 10:57:03 PM
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Injustice takes place in a alternate reality and doeasnt really count. Hell the entire point of those is for the purpose of dong shit you normally couldn't outside of time travel shenanigans.

Nightwing though is a character who's been absolutely shit on these past few years in the animated verse. I think the writers became semi aware halfway through and had to stop making him jobber. Assuming they didnt just write him out of storys all together.

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MariaFarmer
05/13/20 10:58:10 PM
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Garioshi
05/13/20 11:00:30 PM
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She's always the impetus for bad things in AUs, for some reason.

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Darmik
05/13/20 11:03:55 PM
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These are some characters/superhero franchises who have had video games while Wonder Woman hasn't

- Inspector Gadget
- Blade
- Captain Planet
- Cheetahmen
- The Crow
- Daredevil
- The Darkness
- The Flash
- Ghost Rider
- Howard the Duck
- Johnny Test
- Judge Dredd
- The Mask
- Power Rangers
- Powerpuff Girls
- The Phantom
- Silver Surfer
- Spawn
- Thor
- Wanted

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lilORANG
05/13/20 11:06:04 PM
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Is it really that surprising that the nerds who write hyper sexualized characters like WW are misogynistic af?
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Zack_Attackv1
05/13/20 11:06:30 PM
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My Amazon Queen needs a stand alone game of her own.

Just make it a retread of the original God of War. It's the same thing plot-wise.
The money would print itself.
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Garioshi
05/13/20 11:09:57 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Is it really that surprising that the nerds who write hyper sexualized characters like WW are misogynistic af?
Chill the fuck out bro

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pegusus123456
05/13/20 11:26:32 PM
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I think her being the impetus for bad things in AUs is because her backstory makes it convenient. She comes from a race of warrior women who dislike men and their world. It's not hard to turn that into them being evil.

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DrizztLink
05/13/20 11:30:26 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I think her being the impetus for bad things in AUs is because her backstory makes it convenient. She comes from a race of warrior women who dislike men and their world. It's not hard to turn that into them being evil.
I like Diana when she's not quite that far over the edge but still pushing the envelope.

Like, Bruce is at his core a detective.

Clark, a hero.

She's a soldier.

She'll fucking kill you.

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pegusus123456
05/13/20 11:32:37 PM
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Yeah, that too. Of the big three, I think she's typically the most flexible on the whole murder thing.

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DrizztLink
05/13/20 11:35:36 PM
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AlisLandale
05/13/20 11:40:04 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I like Diana when she's not quite that far over the edge but still pushing the envelope.

Like, Bruce is at his core a detective.

Clark, a hero.

She's a soldier.

She'll fucking kill you.

This is such a misguided view of Diana's character. Killing is the absolute last thing on her list of priorities.







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pegusus123456
05/13/20 11:41:56 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
This is such a misguided view of Diana's character. Killing is the absolute last thing on her list of priorities.
His point is that it's still on her list whereas it's not for Batman and Superman.

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AlisLandale
05/13/20 11:44:40 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
His point is that it's still on her list whereas it's not for Batman and Superman.

But that's not the core of her character.

Her "core" is a utopic ideal of peace and love, not a soldier.

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GeneralKenobi85
05/13/20 11:45:57 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
It's not like she's the only major hero to not get a solo video game at least

Aside from Batman and Spider-Man almost nobody gets them
DC superheroes especially seem to be generally absent from video games. Interestingly, Wonder Woman probably translates to video games better than any other DC superhero. The hard part would just be figuring out how to differentiate a game with her from something like God of War.

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UnfairRepresent
05/13/20 11:47:06 PM
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Wonder Woman is pretty egotysical, sexist and selfish in most adaptations of the character.

It's very easy to see why it's possible to make her a villain in "Heroes turn bad" stories.
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Peeonidas
05/13/20 11:57:15 PM
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has there ever been a green lantern game

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Darmik
05/14/20 12:07:09 AM
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Peeonidas posted...
has there ever been a green lantern game

Yep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern:_Rise_of_the_Manhunters

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FortuneCookie
05/14/20 12:09:25 AM
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"We're talking about our genitals, right?"

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Peeonidas
05/14/20 12:09:32 AM
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i bet that game's awesome

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assassingriskel
05/14/20 12:14:22 AM
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Peeonidas posted...
i bet that game's awesome
It's actually pretty solid.
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Tyranthraxus
05/14/20 12:17:30 AM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
DC superheroes especially seem to be generally absent from video games. Interestingly, Wonder Woman probably translates to video games better than any other DC superhero. The hard part would just be figuring out how to differentiate a game with her from something like God of War.

You don't really need to. There's more than enough rogues to fill out a whole game.

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Evening_Dragon
05/14/20 12:25:13 AM
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Wonder Woman was great in Justice League / Unlimited, but then, so was everyone.

AlisLandale posted...
Im gonna be honest. I remember exactly two scenes with her in them.

one was her trying to fuck Batman. And the other was her about to beat the ever-loving shit out of two normal criminals because they annoyed her.

the rest is a blurry haze of lame how do we make girls cool to boys? Writing that never really showcased why shes a good character >_>

How much that series did you even watch? Diana gets to be an actual damn person.

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FortuneCookie
05/14/20 12:25:45 AM
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I only remember the episode where she got turned into a pig.

<_<

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pegusus123456
05/14/20 12:43:58 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I only remember the episode where she got turned into a pig.

<_<
There was a planned scene in that episode where Joker and his goons are about to get out of a car to go do nefarious shit and set a trap for Batman. When Batman walks by holding a pig and whispering comfort to it, Joker just stares blankly for a moment and gets back in the car.

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Zack_Attackv1
05/14/20 12:44:25 AM
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Justice for Wonder Woman D:<
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