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P4wn4g3 05/14/20 3:17:07 PM #102:	shockthemonkey posted... People could have not voted for Biden. But they didnt. As if this is a possibility in our neocon states. Half these people are brainwashed like UFO into thinking socialism is some sort of devil worshipping evil organized crime unit. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:939152985] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>People could have not voted for Biden. But they didnt.</quote>As if this is a possibility in our neocon states. Half these people are brainwashed like UFO into thinking socialism is some sort of devil worshipping evil organized crime unit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/14/20 3:17:59 PM #103:	shockthemonkey posted... You cant actually explain anything coherently so now youre just saying everyone is dumb I mean, I'm kind of pissed that this is the hill that self identified liberals would die on yeah. You guys deserve Trump. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:939153026] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote> You cant actually explain anything coherently so now youre just saying everyone is dumb</quote>I mean, I'm kind of pissed that this is the hill that self identified liberals would die on yeah. You guys deserve Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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P4wn4g3 05/14/20 3:42:20 PM #107:	shockthemonkey posted... lmao now youre saying its impossible for people to not vote for Joe Biden, which makes this post: So much fucking funnier I mean, yeah that's how dictatorships with "voting" work. You get the choices the state allows you to get. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:939154174] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>lmao now youre saying its impossible for people to not vote for Joe Biden, which makes this post: So much fucking funnier</quote>I mean, yeah that's how dictatorships with "voting" work. You get the choices the state allows you to get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kami_no_Kami 05/14/20 4:07:36 PM #109:	https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?s=20 <cite>Kami_no_Kami posted [p:939155510] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/728297587418247168?s=20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 05/14/20 7:38:47 PM #110:	Bernie lost for a number of reason but you're a fool if you don't think political maneuvering by the democrats and biden getting hundreds of millions worth of free ads by msnbc/cnn etc (minimal negative) had anything to do with it the long voting line are objectively voters suppression and objectively hurt young voters the most and to think that the dems weren't willing to throw the election to stop bernie is laughable https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html it certainly happened with Corbyn https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bernie-stopped-democratic-donors-69213107 --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:939166556] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Bernie lost for a number of reason but you're a fool if you don't think political maneuvering by the democrats and biden getting hundreds of millions worth of free ads by msnbc/cnn etc (minimal negative) had anything to do with it the long voting line are objectively voters suppression and objectively hurt young voters the most and to think that the dems weren't willing to throw the election to stop bernie is laughable https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/democratic-superdelegates.html it certainly happened with Corbyn https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/bernie-stopped-democratic-donors-69213107 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/14/20 8:01:25 PM #111:	Dunno how people can completely ignore the unfair treatment of Bernie by the media two primaries in a row lol they were pretty God damn blatant about it this time around with the Nazi comparisons every week. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:939167634] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Dunno how people can completely ignore the unfair treatment of Bernie by the media two primaries in a row lol they were pretty God damn blatant about it this time around with the Nazi comparisons every week.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/14/20 8:18:25 PM #112:	Doubling down on "DNC would rather Trump win than elect Bernie" is a bad look. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:939168356] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Doubling down on "DNC would rather Trump win than elect Bernie" is a bad look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/14/20 8:21:35 PM #113:	COVxy posted... Doubling down on "DNC would rather Trump win than elect Bernie" is a bad look. It's such a bafflingly stupid take --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:939168496] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Doubling down on "DNC would rather Trump win than elect Bernie" is a bad look.</quote>It's such a bafflingly stupid take </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/14/20 8:21:51 PM #114:	Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:939168515] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/14/20 8:23:49 PM #115:	wut --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:939168610] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>wut </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanSmithK7 05/14/20 8:24:55 PM #116:	AbysmalTrinity posted... #HispanicsStandwithTrump #FacesStandforFaceEatingLeopards <cite>DanSmithK7 posted [p:939168659] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>AbysmalTrinity posted... </cite> <quote>#HispanicsStandwithTrump</quote> #FacesStandforFaceEatingLeopards </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/14/20 8:25:43 PM #117:	Smashingpmkns posted... Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it I don't expect you to read my posts or honestly reflect on them. Don't worry. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:939168702] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it </quote> I don't expect you to read my posts or honestly reflect on them. Don't worry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/14/20 8:27:58 PM #118:	https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-voting-lines-super-tuesday-worse-in-november-2020-3 Long lines at polling places caused headaches for many minority voters on Super Tuesday in Texas. A voter at Texas Southern University, a historically black public university in Houston, waited seven hours to cast a ballot in the primary. Voting rights advocates attributed the lines, in part, to the closure of 750 polling locations in Texas over the past seven years. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stop-blaming-young-voters-not-turning-out-sanders/608137/ Moderate Democrats seem willing to identify and introduce policies that would allow a moderate (or progressive) Democrat to no longer be at a disadvantage in a general election against a Republican. Some moderate Democrats seem less willing to identify and introduce policies that would no longer give moderate candidates an advantage in primary elections against progressive candidates. Some moderate Democrats seem more than willing to blame the behaviors of young people for their lower voting rates in the primariesand then blame voting policies for Democrats lower voting rates in general elections. Some moderate Democrats seem more than willing to live in this contradiction. But where is the evidence that young people as a group are so much more cynical, lazy, self-absorbed, and unreliable than older voters as a group such that these behaviors account for the massive age voting gap? Anecdotes are only evidence of the behaviors of particular individuals. Studies disprove the common ageist idea that young people are disinterested in politics. In fact, in 2016, 90 percent of young Americans reported an interest in politics and 80 percent said they intended to vote, but only 43 percent of Americans aged 18 to 29 ended up voting. Simply put, many young people want to participate, care about what is happens in the political arena, and plan to participate. But they find doing so too big of a hassle to actually follow through on their good intentions, wrote John B. Holbein, who co-authored with D. Sunshine Hillygus the new book Making Young Voters: Converting Civic Attitudes into Civic Action. Simply put, the reason young Americans have been less likely to vote than older voters is the same reason for the better part of American history people of color have been less likely to vote than white people; why women were long less likely to vote than men; why poor people have been less likely to vote than wealthier people; why prisoners have been less likely to vote than non-prisoners. For the better part of American history, Americans have been taught there is something behaviorally wrong with prisoners, with poor people, with women, with people of colorwith young peopleand not with the policies stopping or suppressing their voting. These ageist ideas cover up the ageist policies that make it tougher for young people to vote, just as racist ideas cover up the racist policies that make it tougher for people of color to vote, and just as the intersection of ageist and racist policies make it the toughest for young people of color to vote. Older Americans are more likely to be registered than those younger Americans who are at the beginning of their voting life. But voter registration rules are often confusingand people under 30 change their address more than twice as often as people over 30, forcing young people to navigate the confusing registration process in state after state. Take my family. Im a Millennial. My parents are Baby Boomers. In the past 20 years, my parents have moved once, from Virginia to retirement in Florida. Excluding two summer internships during college, Ive moved 12 times between five states and the District of Columbia in the past 20 years. Both Republicans and moderate Democrats share a joint interest in not increasing the voting rates of young people. Republicans lose general elections to Democrats when young people vote in high numbers. Moderate Democrats lose primary elections to progressive Democrats when young people vote in high numbers. As Hill and Grumbach added, Nobody wants to be a victim of the next Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Ayanna Pressley. I do not know how serious some moderate Democrats are about the vitality of American democracy. I do not know if they value the vitality of American democracy over the vitality of their political careers. Sanders is losing to Biden because America is losing young voters, persistently and systemically. Instead of relieving the victim of these ageist voting policies, Americans are blaming the victim with ageist ideas. Blaming the victim is the American political creed. Its end does not appear near. Biden won fair and square though guys lol --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939168797] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-voting-lines-super-tuesday-worse-in-november-2020-3 <quote>Long lines at polling places caused headaches for many minority voters on Super Tuesday in Texas. A voter at Texas Southern University, a historically black public university in Houston, waited seven hours to cast a ballot in the primary. Voting rights advocates attributed the lines, in part, to the closure of 750 polling locations in Texas over the past seven years.</quote> https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stop-blaming-young-voters-not-turning-out-sanders/608137/ <quote>Moderate Democrats seem willing to identify and introduce policies that would allow a moderate (or progressive) Democrat to no longer be at a disadvantage in a general election against a Republican. Some moderate Democrats seem less willing to identify and introduce policies that would no longer give moderate candidates an advantage in primary elections against progressive candidates. Some moderate Democrats seem more than willing to blame the behaviors of young people for their lower voting rates in the primariesand then blame voting policies for Democrats lower voting rates in general elections. Some moderate Democrats seem more than willing to live in this contradiction. But where is the evidence that young people as a group are so much more cynical, lazy, self-absorbed, and unreliable than older voters as a group such that these behaviors account for the massive age voting gap? Anecdotes are only evidence of the behaviors of particular individuals. Studies disprove the common ageist idea that young people are disinterested in politics. In fact, in 2016, 90 percent of young Americans reported an interest in politics and 80 percent said they intended to vote, but only 43 percent of Americans aged 18 to 29 ended up voting. Simply put, many young people want to participate, care about what is happens in the political arena, and plan to participate. But they find doing so too big of a hassle to actually follow through on their good intentions, wrote John B. Holbein, who co-authored with D. Sunshine Hillygus the new book Making Young Voters: Converting Civic Attitudes into Civic Action. Simply put, the reason young Americans have been less likely to vote than older voters is the same reason for the better part of American history people of color have been less likely to vote than white people; why women were long less likely to vote than men; why poor people have been less likely to vote than wealthier people; why prisoners have been less likely to vote than non-prisoners. For the better part of American history, Americans have been taught there is something behaviorally wrong with prisoners, with poor people, with women, with people of colorwith young peopleand not with the policies stopping or suppressing their voting. These ageist ideas cover up the ageist policies that make it tougher for young people to vote, just as racist ideas cover up the racist policies that make it tougher for people of color to vote, and just as the intersection of ageist and racist policies make it the toughest for young people of color to vote. Older Americans are more likely to be registered than those younger Americans who are at the beginning of their voting life. But voter registration rules are often confusingand people under 30 change their address more than twice as often as people over 30, forcing young people to navigate the confusing registration process in state after state. Take my family. Im a Millennial. My parents are Baby Boomers. In the past 20 years, my parents have moved once, from Virginia to retirement in Florida. Excluding two summer internships during college, Ive moved 12 times between five states and the District of Columbia in the past 20 years.</quote> <quote>Both Republicans and moderate Democrats share a joint interest in not increasing the voting rates of young people. Republicans lose general elections to Democrats when young people vote in high numbers. Moderate Democrats lose primary elections to progressive Democrats when young people vote in high numbers. As Hill and Grumbach added, Nobody wants to be a victim of the next Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Ayanna Pressley. I do not know how serious some moderate Democrats are about the vitality of American democracy. I do not know if they value the vitality of American democracy over the vitality of their political careers. Sanders is losing to Biden because America is losing young voters, persistently and systemically. Instead of relieving the victim of these ageist voting policies, Americans are blaming the victim with ageist ideas. Blaming the victim is the American political creed. Its end does not appear near.</quote> Biden won fair and square though guys lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/14/20 8:28:16 PM #119:	COVxy posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it I don't expect you to read my posts or honestly reflect on them. Don't worry. Where's the lie though? You've been defending this shit for a page and a half and acting like you aren't lol --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:939168805] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote> Not as bad a look as defending the imprisonment of Hispanic families just because your guy did it </quote> I don't expect you to read my posts or honestly reflect on them. Don't worry. </quote> Where's the lie though? You've been defending this shit for a page and a half and acting like you aren't lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanSmithK7 05/14/20 8:28:29 PM #120:	Antifar posted... BLAKUboy posted... Because, as we know, Donald "Mexicans are animals" Trump will do so well with Hispanic/Latinx voters. He doesn't have to. He didn't in 2016. But Hispanic voters are perfectly capable of staying home. LMAO, well in that case they're more than welcome to stay at home. Let's have the guy who made hating and ridiculing them a national sport get re-elected, because Biden didn't eArN tHeIr vOtE <cite>DanSmithK7 posted [p:939168814] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>BLAKUboy posted... Because, as we know, Donald "Mexicans are animals" Trump will do so well with Hispanic/Latinx voters. He doesn't have to. He didn't in 2016. But Hispanic voters are perfectly capable of staying home.</quote> LMAO, well in that case they're more than welcome to stay at home. Let's have the guy who made hating and ridiculing them a national sport get re-elected, because Biden didn't eArN tHeIr vOtE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 05/14/20 8:32:00 PM #121:	Smashingpmkns posted... Where's the lie though? You've been defending this shit for a page and a half and acting like you aren't lol k. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:939168977] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Where's the lie though? You've been defending this shit for a page and a half and acting like you aren't lol</quote> k. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 05/14/20 8:34:50 PM #122:	DanSmithK7 posted... Let's have the guy who made hating and ridiculing them a national sport get re-elected Extreme prejudice towards Hispanics has been rampant in this country long before Trump and NEITHER party has ever attempted to change that. --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:939169109] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>DanSmithK7 posted...</cite> <quote>Let's have the guy who made hating and ridiculing them a national sport get re-elected</quote> Extreme prejudice towards Hispanics has been rampant in this country long before Trump and NEITHER party has ever attempted to change that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/14/20 10:31:58 PM #123:	Secretly posted... How so? Would you rather eat shit (Trump) or stale bread (Biden)? You have to choose one, because choosing neither (staying home) gets you the shit by default I'd choose neither. Like are you really OK with being offered the worse shit and choosing? And even worse, for me it's between shit and slightly stinkier shit. --- Thief's Theme: GEbA Legacy Award for Best Fiction, Next Generation Indie Award for Best E-book Fiction: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1726713040 <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:939174556] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Secretly posted... </cite> <quote>How so? Would you rather eat shit (Trump) or stale bread (Biden)? You have to choose one, because choosing neither (staying home) gets you the shit by default</quote>I'd choose neither. Like are you really OK with being offered the worse shit and choosing? And even worse, for me it's between shit and slightly stinkier shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanSmithK7 05/14/20 11:44:23 PM #124:	Smashingpmkns posted... Extreme prejudice towards Hispanics has been rampant in this country long before Trump and NEITHER party has ever attempted to change that. @Smashingpmkns this is true. But he made it much worse. He made it like 10x worse <cite>DanSmithK7 posted [p:939177494] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Extreme prejudice towards Hispanics has been rampant in this country long before Trump and NEITHER party has ever attempted to change that.</quote> @Smashingpmkns this is true. But he made it much worse. He made it like 10x worse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/15/20 8:37:43 AM #125:	Doe posted... https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-voting-lines-super-tuesday-worse-in-november-2020-3 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stop-blaming-young-voters-not-turning-out-sanders/608137/ Biden won fair and square though guys lol Yeah, theres no evidence that this hurt Bernie more than Biden. The polling station problems hurt both young voters and black voters. And it sucks that young people are less likely to vote, but it's not directly related to Biden or Bernie winning or losing... Paper_Okami posted... but you're a fool if you don't think political maneuvering by the democrats and biden getting hundreds of millions worth of free ads by msnbc/cnn etc (minimal negative) had anything to do with it I do think they did some political maneuvering to win a political election, Bernie did too, he just got outmaneuvered. Biden was dead in the water and Bernie failed to capitalize on it. The problem is just that Bernie can't get more than about 1 in 3 Democrats to vote for him unless the alternative is Clinton. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:939188903] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-voting-lines-super-tuesday-worse-in-november-2020-3 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stop-blaming-young-voters-not-turning-out-sanders/608137/ Biden won fair and square though guys lol</quote> Yeah, theres no evidence that this hurt Bernie more than Biden. The polling station problems hurt both young voters and black voters. And it sucks that young people are less likely to vote, but it's not directly related to Biden or Bernie winning or losing... Paper_Okami posted... </cite> <quote>but you're a fool if you don't think political maneuvering by the democrats and biden getting hundreds of millions worth of free ads by msnbc/cnn etc (minimal negative) had anything to do with it</quote> I do think they did some political maneuvering to win a political election, Bernie did too, he just got outmaneuvered. Biden was dead in the water and Bernie failed to capitalize on it. The problem is just that Bernie can't get more than about 1 in 3 Democrats to vote for him unless the alternative is Clinton. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanSmithK7 05/15/20 9:41:16 AM #126:	I wish I could teleport next to each hispanic that votes trump or third party and play the world's saddest song in the world's smallest violin each time trumps calls them horrible things and pushes policies designed to force them to leave when trump gets re-elected <cite>DanSmithK7 posted [p:939190584] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>I wish I could teleport next to each hispanic that votes trump or third party and play the world's saddest song in the world's smallest violin each time trumps calls them horrible things and pushes policies designed to force them to leave when trump gets re-elected </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
closetjpopfan 05/15/20 9:59:22 AM #127:	Although the process is probably not the most fair to Bernie, to be really fair that's not the reason why he lost. Bernie lost because all Americans are suspicious of any platform call it what you will that's even slightly left of center socioeconomically. Democrats just the same as Republicans look at Bernie and go "omg commie". Some are more scared and irrational, yes, but the sad truth is America doesn't want true change, at least not yet. The problem is the moderate, at least somewhat sensible Republicans and yes they do exist don't have the same compunction when they look at Trump. They see what a racist, fascist terrorist, bigoted piece-of-shit-and-everything-that's-wrong-with-this-country-enabler that he is and still barely flinch when they cast their vote for him. While bitter Dems are still whining that their favorite candidate didn't get the nom. This is why Trump wins, it's not complicated at all. <cite>closetjpopfan posted [p:939191202] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Although the process is probably not the most fair to Bernie, to be really fair that's not the reason why he lost. Bernie lost because all Americans are suspicious of any platform call it what you will that's even slightly left of center socioeconomically. Democrats just the same as Republicans look at Bernie and go "omg commie". Some are more scared and irrational, yes, but the sad truth is America doesn't want true change, at least not yet. The problem is the moderate, at least somewhat sensible Republicans and yes they do exist don't have the same compunction when they look at Trump. They see what a racist, fascist terrorist, bigoted piece-of-shit-and-everything-that's-wrong-with-this-country-enabler that he is and still barely flinch when they cast their vote for him. While bitter Dems are still whining that their favorite candidate didn't get the nom. This is why Trump wins, it's not complicated at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/15/20 11:30:01 AM #128:	Balrog0 posted... Yeah, theres no evidence that this hurt Bernie more than Biden. The polling station problems hurt both young voters and black voters. Nice job cutting out Latinos Balrog0 posted... And it sucks that young people are less likely to vote, but it's not directly related to Biden or Bernie winning or losing... Jeez, spoken like a career politician. Young people aren't just "less likely to vote," they are systematically discouraged from doing so. And given that the biggest split between Bernie voters and Biden voters was age, then fucking yes, whose demographic was better able to vote is directly related to who won and who lost. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939194796] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, theres no evidence that this hurt Bernie more than Biden. The polling station problems hurt both young voters and black voters.</quote>Nice job cutting out Latinos Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>And it sucks that young people are less likely to vote, but it's not directly related to Biden or Bernie winning or losing...</quote>Jeez, spoken like a career politician. Young people aren't just "less likely to vote," they are systematically discouraged from doing so. And given that the biggest split between Bernie voters and Biden voters was age, then fucking yes, whose demographic was better able to vote is directly related to who won and who lost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/15/20 11:38:36 AM #129:	The big difference in young people's voting decisions and old people is old people have way more free time. "Not enough time" is a big reason cited for not voting by every non-retired age group. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:939195157] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>The big difference in young people's voting decisions and old people is old people have way more free time. "Not enough time" is a big reason cited for not voting by every non-retired age group.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
P4wn4g3 05/15/20 2:35:53 PM #130:	Doe posted... Jeez, spoken like a career politician. Iirc he actually is a politician of some sort. --- 7D ChessMaster of Dark Aether https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/851-dark-aether <cite>P4wn4g3 posted [p:939203458] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>Jeez, spoken like a career politician.</quote>Iirc he actually is a politician of some sort. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 05/15/20 2:48:52 PM #131:	Doe posted... Nice job cutting out Latinos I don't think there's evidence of it being especially bad in latino areas, because of how the demographics are distributed across the state... Doe posted... Jeez, spoken like a career politician. Young people aren't just "less likely to vote," they are systematically discouraged from doing so. And given that the biggest split between Bernie voters and Biden voters was age, then fucking yes, whose demographic was better able to vote is directly related to who won and who lost. Lol why does that sound like a career politician? I'm just not sure what you guys are trying to argue. Equating the challenges young people face to the problems women and minority have faced is just incorrect, and even if you buy it, black women vote at higher rates than anyone else. Yes there are structural reasons that young people vote at lower rates, but only a small part of that is anyone trying to intentionally rig the system and the article doesn't give any specific examples of those. So when you use those facts to dissemble and say that Biden didn't win "fair and square" I think you're being dishonest. Though I don't think it's intentional. P4wn4g3 posted... Iirc he actually is a politician of some sort. Nah I'm not affiliated with any party, either. I voted and gave money to Bernie these past two cycles, too... --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:939204024] in Biden camp... [t:78687810]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>Nice job cutting out Latinos</quote> I don't think there's evidence of it being especially bad in latino areas, because of how the demographics are distributed across the state... Doe posted... </cite> <quote>Jeez, spoken like a career politician. Young people aren't just "less likely to vote," they are systematically discouraged from doing so. And given that the biggest split between Bernie voters and Biden voters was age, then fucking yes, whose demographic was better able to vote is directly related to who won and who lost.</quote> Lol why does that sound like a career politician? I'm just not sure what you guys are trying to argue. Equating the challenges young people face to the problems women and minority have faced is just incorrect, and even if you buy it, black women vote at higher rates than anyone else. Yes there are structural reasons that young people vote at lower rates, but only a small part of that is anyone trying to intentionally rig the system and the article doesn't give any specific examples of those. So when you use those facts to dissemble and say that Biden didn't win "fair and square" I think you're being dishonest. Though I don't think it's intentional. P4wn4g3 posted... </cite> <quote>Iirc he actually is a politician of some sort.</quote> Nah I'm not affiliated with any party, either. I voted and gave money to Bernie these past two cycles, too... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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