Board 8 > I'm here to remind everyone of the best Street Fighter 4 match in history.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEVcZ3anG0&feature=emb_title

Entertainment at its finest.

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I spent that whole time thinking the spamming player they were laughing at was the guy losing his cool, and when I realized I was wrong at the end it made the whole narrative verrrry different, lol.

no yeah, the Ryu's player's absolute unawareness of why the Rufus player is so tilted and why everyone else is laughing so hard is what elevates this video to top tier status

his celebrations at each round he wins make me crack up every time

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I immediately thought of that match once i read the topic title and was happy to watch it again.

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Dude's name being Gandhi just adds an extra layer of entertainment to the whole thing

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My favorite line is "oh, wakeup EX fireball" because the guy says it so matter of factly.

Also this video is very painful every time I see it because I've lost to those players before too in other games like MKX.

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Whatever dude, the guy won, had fun, and was a good sport. He's a much better player than the titled loser.

I audibly cracked up at the triple Ryu HP wiff followed by the triple Rufus CP connect though.

Can someone explain whats going on? I can't follow this

why is one of those white boys named Ghandi?

Is the player on top Rufus? if so, why isn't the ryu player, on the left, on top? Thats why I'm so confused

are they just laughing because he lost against a super hyperactive ryu?

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Punnyz posted...

Is the player on top Rufus? if so, why isn't the ryu player, on the left, on top? Thats why I'm so confused

Yeah this is what threw me off. That's just bad presentation on a fundamental level.

Punnyz posted...

Can someone explain whats going on? I can't follow this

why is one of those white boys named Ghandi?

Is the player on top Rufus? if so, why isn't the ryu player, on the left, on top? Thats why I'm so confused

are they just laughing because he lost against a super hyperactive ryu?

FPS and Ghandi are their gaming handles. Like "Gootecks" or "UltraDavid."

Top player is Rufus, bottom player is Ryu.

They're laughing because the Rufus player clearly has spent time learning combos and trying to play the game competitively, whereas the Ryu player is your typical online masher who knows the special attack inputs but no actual combos or meta. All Rufus has to do is hold downback and anti-air, or at least walk up block and punish DPs, and he wins. Instead, the Rufus player keeps attempting mixups and links as if he's playing someone who's also thinking about mindgames. He should know better but he doesn't adapt and he gets hardcore tilted.

And it's extra hilarious because everyone has been there.

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have you guys never watched a streamed tournament match before

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Snrkiko posted...

have you guys never watched a streamed tournament match before

Believe it or not probably only a small percentage of the board even watches EVO, much less the less notable tournaments!

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Somehow I think it's funnier thinking it was the hyperactive Ryu losing his shit and still winning

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Wtf that rufus player looks like me!

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It took me 20 minutes to figure out why it was funny, and then it was indeed funny.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Believe it or not probably only a small percentage of the board even watches EVO, much less the less notable tournaments!

i figured at least pun would be familiar!

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good times

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I didn't watch much SFIV stuff I'm afraid

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Ken vs. Wesker

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this makes me miss SF4 so much

and also the Rufus player deserves to be bodied because he plays Rufus

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transience posted...

this makes me miss SF4 so much

and also the Rufus player deserves to be bodied because he plays Rufus

hear hear

also yeah, I've tried to watch competitive sf5 and it's just not engaging. i don't know exactly what it is but i literally fall asleep.

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Only thing that would have made it better is if he was playing Fuerte instead of Ryu.

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nah cause fuerte actually takes some level of skill as opposed to online dp mashing

that ryu plays like me

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could've been better with how I played Guy with dashing and flipping nonstop

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i totally forgot about fuerte

what a wonderfully stupid character

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This isn't Infiltration vs Gamerbee.

It's pretty high up there, though, to be sure.

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this reminds me of jyobin, a dude who had all the skills but just couldn't help himself from screwing around constantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2ALH90Sd8

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Wait bottom player is Ryu? Why did he celebrate when he lost that round while the other guy was pissed? So confusing.

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lordjers posted...

Wait bottom player is Ryu? Why did he celebrate when he lost that round while the other guy was pissed? So confusing.

You mean when he gave the thumbs up? Basically just showing respect, like saying "nice one"

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If that Rufus player was good he'd have adapted after a game and won the set. That's the difference between the top players and those just below.

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It is the perfect example of a mid level players whos too one tracked minded and needs to adapt to the "random" low level players to get closer to top level

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it's hard for me to see what rufus is trying to go for there, or what he expects the ryu player to do

the last time i played a traditional 2D fighter was mark of the wolves, and i basically did what the ryu player does - spam an aerial kick/low-kick sweep until the opponent adjusts, use the DP anti-air if someone does a big jump at me

it seems pretty effective if noobish, so i don't get why rufus's player is so upset about it
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SeabassDebeste posted...

it's hard for me to see what rufus is trying to go for there, or what he expects the ryu player to do

the last time i played a traditional 2D fighter was mark of the wolves, and i basically did what the ryu player does - spam an aerial kick/low-kick sweep until the opponent adjusts, use the DP anti-air if someone does a big jump at me

it seems pretty effective if noobish, so i don't get why rufus's player is so upset about it

Mid level player expects to play people (especially at a tournament) to play the "right way" and he likely trained against people andmade strategies to fight people who play the 'right way' so when you get to used to that and play a super noob who beats you, naturally you'll get salty you lost in a way that wasn't on your terms.

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

Mid level player expects to play people (especially at a tournament) to play the "right way" and he likely trained against people andmade strategies to fight people who play the 'right way' so when you get to used to that and play a super noob who beats you, naturally you'll get salty you lost in a way that wasn't on your terms.

This is spot on.

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This was a very funny match, and also a relatable one, because sometimes when I lose a Street Fighter match against a player like this, I get annoyed and find myself thinking that I "should" have been able to win. Knowing that your opponent is using a basic and repetitive technique that you could easily counter doesn't matter if you keep getting hit by it anyway. That said, it is very satisfying to face a player like this and win because you're able to predict every move they will make and punish them for it.

On the subject of Street Fighter 4 matches, my favourite is the Snake Eyes gauntlet, where Snake Eyes was the last player on his team and the other team hadn't lost anyone yet, then he comes back and beats them all. The whole fight is in the video, and Snake Eyes comes in around the 49 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnGtv0TDlqA

what's the "right way" to play, though?
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This reminds of poker and how pros get mad when you don't fold/call/bet with certain hands

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SeabassDebeste posted...

what's the "right way" to play, though?

There's no right way to play but there's certainly a right way to win, especially against players like this.

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I've lost to people who I "should" be able to beat but in my case I think it's been due to not being quite good enough to fully take advantage, rather than having overtrained on good people. MKX is the example I think of, with that guy who used that character. You know the one. I don't think he was that bad but he really spammed.

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transience posted...

this reminds me of jyobin, a dude who had all the skills but just couldn't help himself from screwing around constantly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2ALH90Sd8

It took me a while to piece together 'Wait, this guy isn't just spamming. He's deliberately picking ridiculously reckless spots that would take crazy reading and input to connect'. I had to rewind it to rewatch some segments.

Man these videos make me miss SF4

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sometimes i go back and watch random episodes of SF4 Excellent Adventures on YouTube

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There's one video of me on youtube playing Rose against some random Zangief online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYmm3__anFc&list=UUJc_ax1eYR-i1Pd9ndPoShg&index=41

It's a sad one.

I remember watching the replay and I'm surprised his controller didn't fly away with how much he was spinning his control stick and mashing ult during that last block string. I deserved to lose after that panicky round 2 though. It's a bummer this is my only match online because I was much better than this would lead you to believe!

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ShatteredElysium posted...

It took me a while to piece together 'Wait, this guy isn't just spamming. He's deliberately picking ridiculously reckless spots that would take crazy reading and input to connect'. I had to rewind it to rewatch some segments.

Yeah, Jyobin is actually an extremely good player. The fact that at first glance he looks like your typical online scrub DP mashing Ryu just adds to his mystique, but he's carefully calculating every single one of those mashed uppercuts.

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jyobin is an artist and scrubs are his canvas

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Oh was the Rufus player supposed to be good? He sometimes showed some skill, but that Ryu guy played like he went to Dreamhack for another game and just thought, eh I own SF4, might as well have some fun.

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SeabassDebeste posted...

what's the "right way" to play, though?

It's kind of complicated to explain but basically the perceived notion is that generally there's a certain 'flow' that high level Street Fighter matches go.

For example:
* Neutral should be the "walk back and forth, sometimes throw fireballs to bait jump, throw out normals to bait reaction, anti-air any jumps"
* Offense should lead into safe pressure on block, optimal damage on combos on hit, and mixups should generally be easy to lab low/overhead/throw/crossup stuff.
* Defense should generally be lowblocking and reacting to jumps or throws. Maybe DP or jab after you get knocked down to occasionally surprise opponent.

Very overly generalized of course but that's like the super gist of it. This Ryu guy just does really 'random' things that would throw off people who expects the flow of the match to be like the above.

Great players can adapt and 'turn off their brain' to force the randomness out of these players and punish them for it. Mid level players who aren't used to this will just get frustrated trying to condition the new player to make them do what they want to do but then the mid players ends up getting hit.

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

It's kind of complicated to explain but basically the perceived notion is that generally there's a certain 'flow' that high level Street Fighter matches go.

For example:
* Neutral should be the "walk back and forth, sometimes throw fireballs to bait jump, throw out normals to bait reaction, anti-air any jumps"
* Offense should lead into safe pressure on block, optimal damage on combos on hit, and mixups should generally be easy to lab low/overhead/throw/crossup stuff.
* Defense should generally be lowblocking and reacting to jumps or throws. Maybe DP or jab after you get knocked down to occasionally surprise opponent.

Very overly generalized of course but that's like the super gist of it. This Ryu guy just does really 'random' things that would throw off people who expects the flow of the match to be like the above.

Great players can adapt and 'turn off their brain' to force the randomness out of these players and punish them for it. Mid level players who aren't used to this will just get frustrated trying to condition the new player to make them do what they want to do but then the mid players ends up getting hit.

thanks - i didn't understand all the jargon about what people "should" do, but this makes some sense to me!
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