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eston
05/20/20 5:34:33 PM
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NeonOctopus
05/20/20 5:35:50 PM
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Damn_Underscore
05/20/20 5:36:49 PM
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Blinx had a really great concept, not sure if the games were any good
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voldothegr8
05/20/20 5:39:41 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Were the 2 Blinx games actually decent?

God no
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Solar_Crimson
05/20/20 5:40:34 PM
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Wasn't that after SEGA bowed out of the console race?

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cmiller4642
05/20/20 5:42:03 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Wasn't that after SEGA bowed out of the console race?

I don't think so. Probably pre Xbox (Spring or Summer 2000). Blinx was released less than a year after the launch of the Xbox, and it was hyped along with Halo before it came out.

Microsoft spent over a year hyping the Xbox
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SONIC_305
05/20/20 5:42:49 PM
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The first game was great. second not so much but ok since its too handholding but the multiplayer, custom characters, playing as the pigs, etc. was cool.. shame he didnt get a third game.

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Scotty_Rogers
05/20/20 6:03:48 PM
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Isn't it time we call shit from the 2010s stupid now

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creativerealms
05/20/20 6:08:22 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Remember Jak and Daxter lol? Irrelevant now
Yeah great series by a developer that has never made a bad game.

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Damn_Underscore
05/20/20 6:09:02 PM
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The first Jak and Daxter is the only good one in the series
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creativerealms
05/20/20 6:11:39 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The first Jak and Daxter is the only good one in the series
All four made by naughty Dog were good.

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NeonOctopus
05/20/20 6:11:48 PM
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The first Jak and Daxter was an okay collectathon. But wow 2 just went full on edgy GTA and it sucked. I never played the 3rd one.

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The Catgirl Fondler
05/20/20 6:43:24 PM
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Jak and Daxter was decent, but Ratchet and Clank were the superior duo and games.
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Starks
05/20/20 6:47:21 PM
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What was that obscure PS1 mascot before Crash?
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SrRd_RacinG
05/20/20 6:47:42 PM
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inloveanddeath0
05/20/20 6:48:56 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Isn't it time we call shit from the 2010s stupid now
Username checks out

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inloveanddeath0
05/20/20 6:49:31 PM
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Starks
05/20/20 6:50:11 PM
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Now I remember. Polygon Man.
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Darmik
05/20/20 6:54:00 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Blinx had a really great concept, not sure if the games were any good

They were okay. A bit weirdly slow paced for a platformer. Too hard too. 10 minute time limits? Come on.

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Speaking of things that haven't aged well

https://web.archive.org/web/20070205015040/http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=89534

Can you talk us through how you came up with the concept for Jak II after the last game?

Rubin: Even though we did really well with the first, we wanted to mess with the formula. If you look at what's popular now, things have changed. It's not like the days of Crash 1 and 2 when character action games ruled the world. They have to fight harder these days.

We've moved the entire atmosphere of the game to a higher age group. Gamers like me are still playing. I'm 33 and what I want now is very different from what I wanted ten years ago. Ten years ago you didn't have the choice to play Grand Theft Auto. You played Mario because Mario was what's available.

Well, Pandora's box has opened and younger kids want to play what older kids are playing and older kids are playing Grand Theft Auto.

This isn't about saving a princess; it's about revenge, betrayal. You might think that doesn't sound original, but think of Mario going out for revenge, or Sonic. It's not a character action thing to do.

Jak's changed a lot. He's older, he's been to prison and he's angry. Jak is not a character action hero of the past. Everything in the game is changed. You can use stuff at any time. And I mean that: if you're on a tiny platform and you pull it out, you'll die - we're not going to prevent you from doing that. You have to think things through differently.

As you said, people's tastes have changed. Whereas ten years ago, Mario was the biggest thing on the planet, people want to play Vice City now.

Rubin: I stood in line watching two kids who must've been between seven and nine. They were going to their Mum: "It's so cool! You get to pick up hookers!" And the mum just said: "That's cool. We'll be going home soon." If they're getting those games, that's where the world is right now.

The first Jak and Daxter was heavily influenced by games like Mario 64, and was quite twee and colourful in relation to Jak II. Mario Sunshine, a game in the traditional twee style, performed below expectations - did that have any impact on the direction you were taking Jak II in?

Rubin: It definitely redoubled my belief that you have to push the genre forward, because when I put that game in and expected Miyamoto greatness, and the characters came out saying: "Bloop! Bloop! Bloop!" I was like, that is 1997. I don't need that in 2003.

Give me a character with a voice and a personality, and more of a cinematic experience. Don't give me Mario from 15 years ago. They just haven't moved on; that's not their focus. I think its very hard for Miyamoto to both run Nintendo - which he does to a certain extent - and get into the game design.

I don't think I would be necessarily disparaging Miyamoto himself to say that Mario Sunshine did not live up to my expectations. It may just be that he doesn't have enough time to get his hands on that stuff anymore, but I wasn't that excited about that game. I thought Ratchet and Clank was far more interesting.

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Damn_Underscore
05/20/20 6:59:43 PM
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lmao

that Rubin guy should be trying to get that interview deleted from the internet
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Darmik
05/20/20 7:27:45 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
lmao

that Rubin guy should be trying to get that interview deleted from the internet

Doesn't sound like Naughty Dog has changed all that much heh

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Solar_Crimson
05/20/20 7:50:44 PM
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Darmik posted...
I think its very hard for Miyamoto to both run Nintendo - which he does to a certain extent - and get into the game design.
Wait, was he under the impression that Miyamoto was Nintendo's CEO or something?

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eston
05/20/20 7:53:12 PM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Repeat topic from last night lol

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78703572
lol wow

I saw this image on FB and thought it was funny. What are the odds

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