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Doe 05/21/20 12:56:33 AM #1:	For one thing this seems really pretentious with the Latin singing and some of the presentation. And it's almost pornographic but the character being sexualized is a child, practically an infant? Really uncomfortable. Normally violence doesn't bother me but this came off as instantly gratuitous. I dunno what's with my state of mind right now, I might be overreacting, but it kind of made me angry. I'll try another episode or two but i might jump ship. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939477251] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>For one thing this seems really pretentious with the Latin singing and some of the presentation. And it's almost pornographic but the character being sexualized is a child, practically an infant? Really uncomfortable. Normally violence doesn't bother me but this came off as instantly gratuitous. I dunno what's with my state of mind right now, I might be overreacting, but it kind of made me angry. I'll try another episode or two but i might jump ship. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 05/21/20 12:57:30 AM #2:	Japan loves doing that with their cartoon children --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:939477282] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Japan loves doing that with their cartoon children </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 05/21/20 12:57:31 AM #3:	10/10 --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:939477284] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>10/10</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 05/21/20 12:57:39 AM #4:	15 year old me loved it. But yeah it's crap <cite>coh posted [p:939477289] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>15 year old me loved it. But yeah it's crap </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 05/21/20 12:58:06 AM #5:	Pretty sure this anime used to be pretty revered as amazing but is now seen as pretty bad. I dunno. Thought it was pretty good when I watched it in high school. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:939477303] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure this anime used to be pretty revered as amazing but is now seen as pretty bad. I dunno. Thought it was pretty good when I watched it in high school. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 05/21/20 12:58:17 AM #6:	Might as well jump. It's a shock value anime and isn't very good. Funny thing is they cut a lot of the most fucked up stuff from the anime just to tone it down compared to the manga <cite>Axiom posted [p:939477309] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Might as well jump. It's a shock value anime and isn't very good. Funny thing is they cut a lot of the most fucked up stuff from the anime just to tone it down compared to the manga </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caroniver 05/21/20 12:58:22 AM #7:	Doe posted... practically an infant Haven't watched Elfen Lied, but I'm gonna have to doubt that one. Doe posted... seems really pretentious with the Latin singing If you start watching an anime called "Elves' Song", there's gonna be music. I'd've expected German, though. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired <cite>Caroniver posted [p:939477310] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>practically an infant</quote>Haven't watched Elfen Lied, but I'm gonna have to doubt that one. Doe posted... </cite> <quote>seems really pretentious with the Latin singing</quote>If you start watching an anime called "Elves' Song", there's gonna be music. I'd've expected German, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 05/21/20 1:00:02 AM #9:	Axiom posted... Might as well jump. It's a shock value anime and isn't very good. Bingo, which is why everyone who saw it once in high school thought it was better than it was. --- #Riot2020 Eat The Rich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:939477364] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite> <quote>Might as well jump. It's a shock value anime and isn't very good.</quote>Bingo, which is why everyone who saw it once in high school thought it was better than it was. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 1:00:39 AM #10:	Chicken posted... Japan loves doing that with their cartoon children I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan? Like how in Earthbound they had to put pajamas on Ness because he's naked in MOTHER 2. So that could be going on. But to me it comes off as exploitative. There's a point where they put clothes on her and she pulls down her shoulder strap to reveal a breast. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939477384] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Chicken posted... </cite> <quote>Japan loves doing that with their cartoon children</quote>I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan? Like how in Earthbound they had to put pajamas on Ness because he's naked in MOTHER 2. So that could be going on. But to me it comes off as exploitative. There's a point where they put clothes on her and she pulls down her shoulder strap to reveal a breast. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 1:01:31 AM #11:	Caroniver posted... Haven't watched Elfen Lied, but I'm gonna have to doubt that one. I mean mentally. She can't speak, she doesn't even know how to use a toilet. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939477411] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Caroniver posted... </cite> <quote>Haven't watched Elfen Lied, but I'm gonna have to doubt that one.</quote>I mean mentally. She can't speak, she doesn't even know how to use a toilet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caroniver 05/21/20 1:02:31 AM #12:	Doe posted... I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan? Like how in Earthbound they had to put pajamas on Ness because he's naked in MOTHER 2. So that could be going on. But to me it comes off as exploitative. There's a point where they put clothes on her and she pulls down her shoulder strap to reveal a breast. Nudity is used as imagery for purity in many cultures, but mostly it's died out. Look at Renaissance paintings and see the nude children there. However, there's a difference between the "She's naked for purity" you'll see at the end of shows like Madoka Magica and Sailor Moon and the "ooh, look at her dress slowly slipping off" that's designed to enlarge the pp. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired <cite>Caroniver posted [p:939477431] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan? Like how in Earthbound they had to put pajamas on Ness because he's naked in MOTHER 2. So that could be going on. But to me it comes off as exploitative. There's a point where they put clothes on her and she pulls down her shoulder strap to reveal a breast.</quote>Nudity is used as imagery for purity in many cultures, but mostly it's died out. Look at Renaissance paintings and see the nude children there. However, there's a difference between the "She's naked for purity" you'll see at the end of shows like Madoka Magica and Sailor Moon and the "ooh, look at her dress slowly slipping off" that's designed to enlarge the pp. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 05/21/20 1:03:58 AM #13:	Doe posted... I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan? Lol nah they just have a subculture that likes sexualizing children and that series has a lot of fucked up things involving children/rape/etc. You really should drop it before it makes you even angrier <cite>Axiom posted [p:939477477] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>I guess I have heard that nudity is used as imagery for purity for children in Japan?</quote>Lol nah they just have a subculture that likes sexualizing children and that series has a lot of fucked up things involving children/rape/etc. You really should drop it before it makes you even angrier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 1:04:01 AM #14:	Yeah that's a good point, the scenes in this show are obviously designed to titillate --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939477480] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Yeah that's a good point, the scenes in this show are obviously designed to titillate </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 05/21/20 1:07:42 AM #15:	Lucy, you got some splainin to do! --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:939477578] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Lucy, you got some splainin to do! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ararararagi 05/21/20 1:09:45 AM #16:	13 year old me liked the edginess of the show. Adult me that skimmed through it last year hated everything about it. I still like Lilium though. --- Sorry, I stuttered. https://imgur.com/qnM6DpK <cite>Ararararagi posted [p:939477648] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>13 year old me liked the edginess of the show. Adult me that skimmed through it last year hated everything about it. I still like Lilium though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 05/21/20 1:12:36 AM #17:	The only reason Elfen Lied was critically acclaimed by anime fans back then was because it was edgy, the problem is it doesn't age well at all. The manga isn't anything different either. It's a series trying to be meaningful and thought provoking, but comes off more like a comedy for how serious it takes itself. In fact I felt it started realizing it was a comedy ~~when they introduce diaper girl lol.~~ --- DI MOLTO! Switch FC: SW-0575-4758-7878 <cite>Prestoff posted [p:939477733] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>The only reason Elfen Lied was critically acclaimed by anime fans back then was because it was edgy, the problem is it doesn't age well at all. The manga isn't anything different either. It's a series trying to be meaningful and thought provoking, but comes off more like a comedy for how serious it takes itself. In fact I felt it started realizing it was a comedy when they introduce diaper girl lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 1:19:19 AM #18:	Oh my god those CGI wacky inflatable tubeman hands are so bad --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939477907] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Oh my god those CGI wacky inflatable tubeman hands are so bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 05/21/20 1:22:42 AM #19:	Never watched it because I saw a scene on youtube with a puppy getting beaten. It pissed me the fuck off so I never bothered with it. --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:939477988] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Never watched it because I saw a scene on youtube with a puppy getting beaten. It pissed me the fuck off so I never bothered with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 05/21/20 1:24:56 AM #20:	Elfen Lied is edgy-okay tbh Akame ga Kill is edgy garbage. --- Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:939478040] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Elfen Lied is edgy-okay tbh Akame ga Kill is edgy garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 05/21/20 1:26:33 AM #21:	https://youtu.be/TtBYjwmGWjc --- https://imgur.com/IxQOhWJ <cite>Gafemage posted [p:939478078] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/TtBYjwmGWjc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 05/21/20 1:27:48 AM #22:	Elfen Lied was great when it came out, but yeah it's aged poorly like most other series from 10+ years ago. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:939478116] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Elfen Lied was great when it came out, but yeah it's aged poorly like most other series from 10+ years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bknight 05/21/20 1:29:15 AM #23:	Old edgy anime is old, try new edgy anime instead. <cite>bknight posted [p:939478155] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Old edgy anime is old, try new edgy anime instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 1:31:21 AM #24:	Yeah, I'm quitting after 2 episodes --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939478212] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I'm quitting after 2 episodes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ararararagi 05/21/20 1:31:46 AM #25:	pogo_rabid posted... but yeah it's aged poorly like most other series from 10+ years ago Eh, that's not fair. --- Sorry, I stuttered. https://imgur.com/qnM6DpK <cite>Ararararagi posted [p:939478226] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>but yeah it's aged poorly like most other series from 10+ years ago</quote>Eh, that's not fair. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 05/21/20 1:32:56 AM #26:	The age of consent in Japan is 13. --- Spider-Man 3 was a good movie. <cite>WarfireX posted [p:939478259] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>The age of consent in Japan is 13. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 05/21/20 1:34:03 AM #27:	Ararararagi posted... Eh, that's not fair. hows it not fair? I personally liked the series enough to get the dvd box set Old media, outside of a few exceptional examples, tends to not stand up to current media. It is what it is. Half Life was a fantastic game, but by today's standards, it's dogshit. Unless you grew up with that quality of game, trying to play it now for the first time ever would be a disappointment. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:939478280] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Ararararagi posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, that's not fair.</quote>hows it not fair? I personally liked the series enough to get the dvd box set Old media, outside of a few exceptional examples, tends to not stand up to current media. It is what it is. Half Life was a fantastic game, but by today's standards, it's dogshit. Unless you grew up with that quality of game, trying to play it now for the first time ever would be a disappointment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ararararagi 05/21/20 1:36:46 AM #28:	I guess I'm just thinking about exceptional examples --- Sorry, I stuttered. https://imgur.com/qnM6DpK <cite>Ararararagi posted [p:939478345] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>I guess I'm just thinking about exceptional examples </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 05/21/20 1:38:33 AM #29:	Ararararagi posted... I guess I'm just thinking about exceptional examples Stuff like Cowboy Bebop and FLCL are timeless, however there are scores of really fantastic anime that just haven't aged that well by today's standards ie- trigun or outlaw star --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:939478385] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Ararararagi posted... </cite> <quote>I guess I'm just thinking about exceptional examples</quote> Stuff like Cowboy Bebop and FLCL are timeless, however there are scores of really fantastic anime that just haven't aged that well by today's standards ie- trigun or outlaw star </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MT_TRAEH 05/21/20 1:39:11 AM #30:	the harem pissed me off but the violence and nudity kept me going --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. <cite>MT_TRAEH posted [p:939478404] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>the harem pissed me off but the violence and nudity kept me going </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 05/21/20 1:39:40 AM #31:	Doe posted... Yeah, I'm quitting after 2 episodes Yeah it gets way worse. --- #Riot2020 Eat The Rich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:939478418] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Doe posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I'm quitting after 2 episodes</quote>Yeah it gets way worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitlord_Special 05/21/20 1:41:23 AM #32:	I think 2 episodes is as far as I got as well on that one "Gratuitous" is definitely the one word I would use to describe it. --- Posted from my iPhone 8 <cite>Pitlord_Special posted [p:939478464] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>I think 2 episodes is as far as I got as well on that one "Gratuitous" is definitely the one word I would use to describe it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caroniver 05/21/20 1:42:39 AM #33:	WarfireX posted... The age of consent in Japan is 13. I legitimately hate the people who run around going "Age of consent is 13 it's okay" with a blatant disregard for the fact that that's only true on a very technical level and without knowing anything about the fact that no, you can't go to Japan and fuck a 13-year-old. ALSO that no matter what the age of consent somewhere is, you always have to be 18 before nude pictures are OK. Age of Consent is 16 in Illinois, but nude pictures of 16-year-olds are still illegal. --- Mixer of Mega Dash Juices, slayer of giant monsters. The elevation increases as the bullet is fired <cite>Caroniver posted [p:939478490] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>WarfireX posted... </cite> <quote>The age of consent in Japan is 13.</quote>I legitimately hate the people who run around going "Age of consent is 13 it's okay" with a blatant disregard for the fact that that's only true on a very technical level and without knowing anything about the fact that no, you can't go to Japan and fuck a 13-year-old. ALSO that no matter what the age of consent somewhere is, you always have to be 18 before nude pictures are OK. Age of Consent is 16 in Illinois, but nude pictures of 16-year-olds are still illegal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guerrilla Soldier 05/21/20 1:49:10 AM #35:	i saw one episode and it was just too anime for me. none of the content bothered me in the slightest (which might be a bad thing?) but the voices and acting... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] i do agree with this but solely on execution/performance/acting --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:939478652] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>i saw one episode and it was just too anime for me. none of the content bothered me in the slightest (which might be a bad thing?) but the voices and acting... <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> i do agree with this but solely on execution/performance/acting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evil_zombie11 05/21/20 1:50:49 AM #36:	Seems like the kind of anime people just say is great because theyre being pretentious. --- 2020 said: You're in a Twin Peaks episode <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:939478686] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Seems like the kind of anime people just say is great because theyre being pretentious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
elysdeon 05/21/20 2:30:31 AM #37:	Absolutely loved it when I first watched it!... when i was like 15 --- So you think I don't have a wife? I so do have one and she is HUGE, bigger than yours and way cooler. you just can't see her -Lynx the Dark <cite>elysdeon posted [p:939479575] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely loved it when I first watched it!... when i was like 15 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/21/20 2:39:11 AM #38:	pogo_rabid posted... hows it not fair? I personally liked the series enough to get the dvd box set Old media, outside of a few exceptional examples, tends to not stand up to current media. It is what it is. Half Life was a fantastic game, but by today's standards, it's dogshit. Unless you grew up with that quality of game, trying to play it now for the first time ever would be a disappointment. Videogames aren't really a fair example. Far more than other mediums, videogames are held down by technical limitations. The problem with this anime isn't anything on a technical level (at least not mainly), it's purely a matter of content. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:939479767] in Trying to ... [t:78706779]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>hows it not fair? I personally liked the series enough to get the dvd box set Old media, outside of a few exceptional examples, tends to not stand up to current media. It is what it is. Half Life was a fantastic game, but by today's standards, it's dogshit. Unless you grew up with that quality of game, trying to play it now for the first time ever would be a disappointment.</quote>Videogames aren't really a fair example. Far more than other mediums, videogames are held down by technical limitations. The problem with this anime isn't anything on a technical level (at least not mainly), it's purely a matter of content. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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