Current Events > The country can't stay closed down. That's reality.

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It isn't realistic for the government to cut you checks and while you chill out at home for over year, while still being able to buy food at the grocery stores, get haircuts, fill up your car with gas, etc.

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Inb4 youre told you hate all lifeforms not named Donald Trump and are only upset because you cant get a haircut

thats what the plugged-in folk will be running in here to say

Ya but we dont have to go full stupid either.

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We barely got one check and it was for 1200 bucks.

It was nice but its not money to survive on.

Niether is the 600 bucks extra.


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Yeah devaluing our own dollar that will bounce back fairly easily because the literal entire world is also doing so is way worse than hundreds of thousands dying

wait

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Realistically how much would it cost just to issue everyone a hazmat suit and require it be worn in public? Anyone violating that can be arrested immediately and stuck in isolation until agreeing to comply, everything can open again, no one can infect each other. Restaurants can cease to exist, take-out only forever, people can get food at grocery stores and farmers markets, people can get clippers and shave their own heads.

This could work.

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Crono99 posted...

But what are we supposed to do then? We can't go through life in Hazmat suits either

We just need to maintain high sanitation standards and go back to work. There isn't an alternative, besides anarchy.

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why cant americans die for their country like we did in the good old days

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VVALLBOUNCE posted...

Inb4 youre told you hate all lifeforms not named Donald Trump and are only upset because you cant get a haircut

thats what the plugged-in folk will be running in here to say

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Pepys Monster posted...

We just need to maintain high sanitation standards and go back to work. There isn't an alternative, besides anarchy.

We can't even get people to wear masks, come the fuck on.

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Pepys Monster posted...

We just need to maintain high sanitation standards and go back to work. There isn't an alternative, besides anarchy.

Yeah, that's working brilliantly so far. I made a post a week ago that I went to a Walmart and a Kroger on a Saturday in Tennessee, and maybe 10% of the shoppers were wearing masks. Maybe 20% social distancing. The rest gave no fucks whatsoever.

People are complete idiots and won't listen to rules and standards, this is becoming fact during this pandemic. We can't be trusted to follow along with safety standards. It must be regulated or this will just continue to spread and blow up. Millions will die, because of the general public's pig headedness, ignorance and stubbornness. A tremendous and disturbing number of people die as a result.

So what's more important, opening back up and having millions die, so businesses can make money, or protecting human numbers so humans are alive to spend money?

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pegusus123456 posted...

We can't even get people to wear masks, come the fuck on.

If stores actually offered masks on the way in, or at least sold them, more people would wear them. There's such a mask shortage that doctors have to operate without them.

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Pepys Monster posted...

If stores actually offered masks on the way in, or at least sold them, more people would wear them. There's such a mask shortage that doctors have to operate without them.

Did you see the video of the dude throwing a fit in Costco? He wore a mask to get in and then took it off to cause a scene. These people are convinced that wearing a mask is an infringement of their constitutional rights.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Yeah, that's working brilliantly so far. I made a post a week ago that I went to a Walmart and a Kroger on a Saturday in Tennessee, and maybe 10% of the shoppers were wearing masks. Maybe 20% social distancing. The rest gave no fucks whatsoever.

People are complete idiots and won't listen to rules and standards, this is becoming fact during this pandemic. We can't be trusted to follow along with safety standards. It must be regulated or this will just continue to spread and blow up. Millions will die, because of the general public's pig headedness, ignorance and stubbornness. A tremendous and disturbing number of people die as a result.

So what's more important, opening back up and having millions die, so businesses can make money, or protecting human numbers so humans are alive to spend money?

You don't understand. People are losing their jobs. Food doesn't just appear in the grocery store. We need truck drivers. We need employees to stock the shelves. We need farmers growing the food. And the farmers need buyers. The entire system will collapse if the country isn't re-opened. And then many will die.

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Pepys Monster posted...

You don't understand. People are losing their jobs. Food doesn't just appear in the grocery store. We need truck drivers. We need employees to stock the shelves. We need farmers growing the food. And the farmers need buyers. The entire system will collapse if the country isn't re-opened. And then many will die.

You know that grocery stores are hiring, right?

_Rinku_ posted...

Did you see the video of the dude throwing a fit in Costco? He wore a mask to get in and then took it off to cause a scene. These people are convinced that wearing a mask is an infringement of their constitutional rights.

So because a man in Costco took off his mask (and was probably kicked out), we should keep the country locked down until society collapses into The Purge style chaos?

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Pepys Monster posted...

You don't understand. People are losing their jobs. Food doesn't just appear in the grocery store. We need truck drivers. We need employees to stock the shelves. We need farmers growing the food. And the farmers need buyers. The entire system will collapse if the country isn't re-opened. And then many will die.

Jfc dude get a grip.

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Unknown5uspect posted...

Jfc dude get a grip.

You guys think your government checks are going to keep buying you comfort. Eventually, all they'll be good for is TP.

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Or don't whatever.

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Pepys Monster posted...

So because a man in Costco took off his mask (and was probably kicked out), we should keep the country locked down until society collapses into The Purge style chaos?

Because these nutjobs are everywhere. Your style of dishonest faux concern should really be against the rules here; people like you just stoke the flames that embolden the idiots. Those idiots in turn are the direct cause for the lockdown going on for longer than it would have if we had all just hunkered down in the first place.

Yeah doesn't make sense to keep doing this, to me. There must be some way to minimize risk and still reopen. Maybe I'm wrong.

But we'd probably just fuck it up anyway if we did it

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either go full testing or accept that inflation is a reality during a pandemic

Pepys Monster posted...

You don't understand. People are losing their jobs. Food doesn't just appear in the grocery store. We need truck drivers. We need employees to stock the shelves. We need farmers growing the food. And the farmers need buyers. The entire system will collapse if the country isn't re-opened. And then many will die.

I fully understand, I actually do farm on a small scale, but provide for my local community. It was in direct response to maintaining high sanitation standards, and the fact that a very small percentage are willing to do so. It's a false expectation that will continue to kill people and spread this virus.

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_Rinku_ posted...

Because these nutjobs are everywhere. Your style of dishonest faux concern should really be against the rules here; people like you just stoke the flames that embolden the idiots. Those idiots in turn are the direct cause for the lockdown going on for longer than it would have if we had all just hunkered down in the first place.

Why do you believe I'm being dishonest? Would I rather hang out at home and get paid to not go to work, while enjoying all of the same comforts I had before the quarantine? Yes. Is that feasible? No.

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but we'd rather have a government that's willing to fuck with actual data for an economy...

Smackems posted...

Yeah doesn't make sense to keep doing this, to me. There must be some way to minimize risk and still reopen. Maybe I'm wrong.

But we'd probably just fuck it up anyway if we did it

That's the thing though. We're already fucking it up now.

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Smackems posted...

Yeah doesn't make sense to keep doing this, to me. There must be some way to minimize risk and still reopen. Maybe I'm wrong.

But we'd probably just fuck it up anyway if we did it

If the nation had a unified response from the beginning (Trump knew this was potentially an issue as early as January and did nothing), we might now be at the point where we could safely do phased reopening. Thanks to all of the stubborn people who refused to social distance and wanted to rush through lockdowns, we're staring down a frightening potential second wave.

Pepys Monster posted...

Why do you believe I'm being dishonest? Would I rather hang out at home and get paid to not go to work, while enjoying all of the same comforts I had before the quarantine? Yes. Is that feasible? No.

Because you are. You are dismissing all valid arguments against your nonsense and just screaming this same drivel over and over. You haven't put in the work to reopen. Cry about it, but that's the reality of the situation.

Pepys Monster posted...

So because a man in Costco took off his mask (and was probably kicked out), we should keep the country locked down until society collapses into The Purge style chaos?

So it's fine for people to die from a virus, but we don't want people to die from rioting.

That's pretty hypocritical

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you realize that it can potentially fuck up your respiratory system for the rest of your life, right?

you don't just get the flu. you get fucked up for life.

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don't say respiratory ur triggering me plz

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

you realize that it can potentially fuck up your respiratory system for the rest of your life, right?

you don't just get the flu. you get fucked up for life.

How common is that?

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_Rinku_ posted...

Because you are. You are dismissing all valid arguments against your nonsense and just screaming this same drivel over and over. You haven't put in the work to reopen. Cry about it, but that's the reality of the situation.

A guy got kicked out of Costco. I guess we better not re-open because of that.

MabusIncarnate posted...

So it's fine for people to die from a virus, but we don't want people to die from rioting.

That's pretty hypocritical

You realize if there is rioting, looting and killing, the virus will be here too, right?

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

you realize that it can potentially fuck up your respiratory system for the rest of your life, right?

you don't just get the flu. you get fucked up for life.

I have heard this, and it's frightening. But the show must go on.

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Smackems posted...

How common is that?

It's a primary sympton, hence the ventilator needs

I had severe asthma as a kid, my lungs are already permanently damaged. If I catch this, i'm likely dead.

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then maybe the federal government should have put together an appropriate plan for re-opening

they didn't. they then said "let's reopen." the response isn't just "no", it's "no, do this, then the answer becomes yes"

it's not scientists and public health experts being irrational, it's conservatives

like always

just go lick a telephone pole already and die out

we'll be better off when you are gone

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Pepys Monster posted...

A guy got kicked out of Costco. I guess we better not re-open because of that.

Thank you for proving my point. I don't know why I wasted my time engaging with someone who is so obviously not interested in having a sincere discussion.

MabusIncarnate posted...

It's a primary sympton, hence the ventilator needs

I had severe asthma as a kid, my lungs are already permanently damaged. If I catch this, i'm likely dead.

Stay safe

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_Rinku_ posted...

Thank you for proving my point. I don't know why I wasted my time engaging with someone who is so obviously not interested in having a sincere discussion.

You haven't made a valid argument against the country re-opening. If you think a lockdown continuing for 6+ months is feasible, I want to know how.

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pegusus123456 posted...

We can't even get people to wear masks, come the f*** on.

we can't even get the chief executive to wear a mask


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the reality for many of us will be choosing to lose our livelihood or taking a chance to lose our life.

the fear is what really drives what we do: re-opening and keeping the quarantine. nobody knows whats going on and things are changing day by day.

theres no guarantee for anybodys safety post pandemic.

testing is an issue. every business in the world cannot test all their employees, regularly and consistently. how can we control the rate of infection?

i feel we are set to fail reopening and is not gonna end well for anybody. there was no exit lockdown plan. we are divided in this as a country as well as divided in the world.

reopening is a reactive decision based on incomplete and perhaps misleading information and data.

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I'm fascinated by this narrative that only layabouts want the lockdown and subsequent reopening to be managed carefully and safely.

Usually pushed by people who can probably work from home uninhibited for the foreseeable future lol

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Also, anyone who says that the government "can't afford" to continue sending stimulus checks is lying through their teeth and should be viewed with the utmost suspicion.

NinjaBreakfast posted...

I'm fascinated by this narrative that only layabouts want the lockdown and subsequent reopening to be managed carefully and safely.

Usually pushed by people who can probably work from home uninhibited for the foreseeable future lol

curious how its only troll accounts that push the narrative, isnt it?

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

I'm fascinated by this narrative that only layabouts want the lockdown and subsequent reopening to be managed carefully and safely.

Usually pushed by people who can probably work from home uninhibited for the foreseeable future lol

The people demanding that the country reopen are, by and large, not the people going back to work at Wal-Mart, McDonald's, barbers, nail salons, furniture stores, etc. They're the upper class who want the working class to "get back to it" so they can get back to their petty creature comforts. They want to go out for brunch and get smashed on mimosas. They want to buy horribly tacky knick knacks. They want to get their nails done.

They're also, generally, already working from home and will continue to do so while the "common folk" get exposed and die. As you said.

Why can't they just keep printing money? The entire world depends on the US Dollar and there are so many investments across the global market that our currency could never crash

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Well, by now the rich have all bought their own ventilators and have taken measures to protect themselves, having their employees doing everything for them while they keep isolated. They certainly won't have a problem demanding that the regular joe goes to work because he has to make ends meet, right? If lots of people die or get handicapped because of having been infected by the virus, too bad for them. Money needs to be made and having a virus curbing population growth will be a good thing for the wealthy. Particularly if the ones dying are those with low purchasing power. Stockmarkets made a profit out of all this. Don't you just love capitalism?

Pepys Monster posted...

You don't understand. People are losing their jobs. Food doesn't just appear in the grocery store. We need truck drivers. We need employees to stock the shelves. We need farmers growing the food. And the farmers need buyers. The entire system will collapse if the country isn't re-opened. And then many will die.

Aren't those jobs considered essential and still running even during the pandemic? >_>

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butthole666 posted...

curious how its only troll accounts that push the narrative, isnt it?

_Rinku_ posted...

The people demanding that the country reopen are, by and large, not the people going back to work at Wal-Mart, McDonald's, barbers, nail salons, furniture stores, etc. They're the upper class who want the working class to "get back to it" so they can get back to their petty creature comforts. They want to go out for brunch and get smashed on mimosas. They want to buy horribly tacky knick knacks. They want to get their nails done.

They're also, generally, already working from home and will continue to do so while the "common folk" get exposed and die. As you said.

pretty much!

i am very fortunate to be able to work from home. i would love everything to be go back to normal tomorrow if it was possible. but it aint. so imma err on the side of caution and the proper management of any 're-opening' as opposed to just throwing the doors open and to hell with everybody else. especially as the people in the firing line are going to be those with massively less privileged positions than i have.

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