Current Events > Declawing cats is inhumane af

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Oh but make sure you chop his balls off

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i will

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Devocalization is bad too. It's a shame that vets are okay with performing it as long as a dog owner has the money .


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conflicted views in humans is human nature.

I think if an alien species finally finds us, the first thing they're gonna laugh at is how mnay countries, languages and religions we have.

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Chopping their balls off helps control the cat population and keeps more birds alive.

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I feel like declawing is worse because outside of reproduction the balls don't really have any purpose

Bob Barker has been telling America for like 50 years that neutering is okay though.

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Neutering is generally viewed as necessary because it's preventing further suffering in a greater number of animals, and ... well this is screwed up sounding but it helps regulate their mood and makes them more comfortable living in an enclosed space, which can also be seen as helping improve their quality of life since they're not going out of their minds trying to find a mate every month while being stuck in an enclosed space.

It is a really sad thing to think about but it's definitely not the same as declawing, which offers zero benefit at all to the pet.

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imagine living in a country where declawing cats is legal

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getting your pets fixed is something that they recover from, and benefits the ecosystem, as cats are responsible for killing hundreds of millions birds and rodents each year, iirc.

but declawing your cat has a negative impact on its quality of life, as it's just crippling and debilitating them.

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Declawing your cat means you fucking suck at raising a cat.

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Hexenherz posted...

Neutering is generally viewed as necessary because it's preventing further suffering in a greater number of animals, and ... well this is screwed up sounding but it helps regulate their mood and makes them more comfortable living in an enclosed space, which can also be seen as helping improve their quality of life since they're not going out of their minds trying to find a mate every month while being stuck in an enclosed space.

It is a really sad thing to think about but it's definitely not the same as declawing, which offers zero benefit at all to the pet.

i've always wondered about the health effects of neutering your dog/cat. you're removing major hormone secreting tissue during the early growth phase of your pet, its hard to believe that its not fucking something up.

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Ehhh. Know a girl that got her cat's claw stuck in her eyelid and a guy that almost lost his arm because he was scratched by his.

Besides. Domestic animals don't really need their claws, it's counter productive to have them in the case of dogs.

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Tropicalwood posted...

Besides. Domestic animals don't really need their claws, it's counter productive to have them in the case of dogs.

Yawn. Try harder.

@monkmith Indoor cats on average lead much longer lives than outdoor cats. But indoor cats in heat also go out of their mind. It does moderate their behavior somewhat but it's still generally more humane and it isn't like a lobotomy or something, they're still playful and keep their instincts and everything.

Declawing is basically cutting off the last joint of their fingers, it's something entirely unnatural and they have a really hard time adjusting to that. It screws up their traction and they still have the instinct to scratch things to sharpen their claws.

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Neutering is nowhere near as bad and unnecessary as declawing. Not having balls is something they recover from.

Declawing is essentially cutting off the ends of their fingers. Many cats can end up having back problems from having to walk unusually or fear bite often due to not having a means of defense.

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Not to mention those weird spiral bone growths or other issues that can crop up.

Pretty sure when you neuter a cat the most you (well, actually it's them) lose is them developing face shield fur and the barbs on the penis cease to be. Sure it won't behave like a tomcat, but that's not much of a loss compared to making it suffer when trying to simply walk for the rest of its life... can't even imagine how it'd feel when landing from typical heights.

I know of people who would always declaw their cats and they would either never walk or would bite in defense. I just narrowly saved my cat from getting declawed and this was well before finding out the process. Now I'm really glad it didn't happen... and all it would be for is to save some furniture that's been damaged far more by the one who vouches for declawing.

Hexenherz posted...

@monkmith Indoor cats on average lead much longer lives than outdoor cats. But indoor cats in heat also go out of their mind. It does moderate their behavior somewhat but it's still generally more humane and it isn't like a lobotomy or something, they're still playful and keep their instincts and everything.

Declawing is basically cutting off the last joint of their fingers, it's something entirely unnatural and they have a really hard time adjusting to that. It screws up their traction and they still have the instinct to scratch things to sharpen their claws.

i'm not defending declawing in any way, i've never thought it was ethical and never really saw the point beyond that. but i do question the long term health effects of neutering.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6863800/

endocrinology is very complex, and testicles/ovaries are major parts of the endocrine system. its reasonable to assume that removing that tissue, especially in prepubescent/still growing animals, would have negative effects on their development. the observable effects (behavior changes and things like that) are obvious, but its also likely that it predisposes them to early cancer and growth/development issues.

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A lot of shelters also wont take declawed cats.

My cat has her claws and as log as you keep them trimmed and replace scratching posts every few weeks then you wont have a problem. She's never touched a piece of furniture or scratched me or my wife.

So, in summary:

Blue_Dream87 posted...

Declawing your cat means you fucking suck at raising a cat.

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Long as it's legal I don't consider it inhumane.

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imagine getting a pet only to chop its fingers off. disgusting

Beveren_Rabbit posted...

Devocalization is bad too. It's a shame that vets are okay with performing it as long as a dog owner has the money .

this is some cruel stuff

The_Bitcoin posted...

this is some cruel stuff

i've only ever heard of drug dealers and stupid people that do that to their dog.

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Austin_Era_II posted...

Long as it's legal I don't consider it inhumane.

That's a pretty naive and simplistic view of the world, and it *is* becoming illegal in more and more places with each year.

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How come pets recover from neutering but people dont?

if you chop a guys balls he will cry every day, even if he doesnt want kids