Current Events > Coronavirus 19: "An Incalculable Loss"

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New York has received 25,000 complaints of noncompliance with reopening rules, governor says
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-14-20-intl/h_aa43132659b360a7fb36c5644810d198

I was going to give one of those anecdote posts that it looked like no one in my area was wearing masks or social distancing looks like there is an article of proof people stopped caring about corona in many parts of NY.

I went to grocery store today and they stopped doing the one person at a time and limit to who gets in. Also they didn't do the no mask no entry thing. Passed by a park and there were like 30 people together partying near a basketball court no one wearing masks. It was like pre-corona. And it not like we had a low corona count. We were the most hard hit state.

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For first time, Alabama added 1,000-plus coronavirus cases in a day
https://www.al.com/news/2020/06/for-first-time-alabama-added-1000-coronavirus-cases-in-a-day.html

Arizona health expert: We dont want to become another New York. Change is needed.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/we-dont-want-to-become-another-new-york-amid-surge-in-covid-19-cases-in-az-public-health-expert-warns-change-is-needed/ar-BB15rUHg

Brazil President Embraces Unproven Cure as Pandemic Surges
https://www.nytimes.com./2020/06/13/world/americas/virus-brazil-bolsonaro-chloroquine.html

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Arizona's shutting down again. There's no way they can avoid that unless they somehow double their hospital and iCU capacity overnight.

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Went out a lot this weekend in Omaha. Hardly anyone wearing masks, no one social distancing. The Old Market was as booming as a regular summer weekend pre-Covid

We're fucked, aren't we?

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I went to an outdoor restaurant yesterday with my brother and I was paranoid about getting the rona the whole time. But the restaurant did a fantastic job at adhering to social distancing and cleanliness. It felt weird as hell being out to eat though.

Tired-Insomniac posted...

Went out a lot this weekend in Omaha. Hardly anyone wearing masks, no one social distancing. The Old Market was as booming as a regular summer weekend pre-Covid

We're fucked, aren't we?

Depends on the area. I live in Las Vegas and I do see at least half the people wearing masks. Social distancing's being adhered to for the most part as well. I honestly fee that I'll be safe as long as I take precautions.

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

Went out a lot this weekend in Omaha. Hardly anyone wearing masks, no one social distancing. The Old Market was as booming as a regular summer weekend pre-Covid

We're fucked, aren't we?

I live in hotspot Texas, and maybe only 50% are wearing masks anywhere. Bars and restaraunts are crowded.

People are just okay with their old family members and obese friends dying I guess. But then you realize a lot of people not wearing masks are old, and so I guess they're okay with dying for their political party. Unreal.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Tired-Insomniac posted...

Went out a lot this weekend in Omaha. Hardly anyone wearing masks, no one social distancing. The Old Market was as booming as a regular summer weekend pre-Covid

We're fucked, aren't we?

I live in hotspot Texas, and maybe only 50% are wearing masks anywhere. Bars and restaraunts are crowded.

People are just okay with their old family members and obese friends dying I guess. But then you realize a lot of people not wearing masks are old, and so I guess they're okay with dying for their political party. Unreal.

I believe that most people foregoing the masks, myself included, see the low mortality rate and decided that comfort is a bigger issue. It's not political at all.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

I believe that most people foregoing the masks, myself included, see the low mortality rate and decided that comfort is a bigger issue. It's not political at all.

Comfort over lives XD. Hospitals here are accepting new patients at record breaking pace, this goes beyond just COVID.

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I believe that most people foregoing the masks, myself included, see the low mortality rate and decided that comfort is a bigger issue. It's not political at all.

Comfort over lives XD. Hospitals here are accepting new patients at record breaking pace, this goes beyond just COVID.

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What does the avatar have to do with anything?
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I admit I am worried about what these protests could do to the spread. We shouldn't ignore one tragedy to address another. The protesters are just one subset of people though and it's like everyone forgot there was a pandemic and I fear nothing will shut down again even if things keep getting worse again.

We're paying the price for not addressing this on a national scale. We can open most things while also actually enforcing social distancing everywhere, but I guess that wouldn't make all the money, so the government and businesses are against it.

Our country is learning nothing from this pandemic except the quickest ways to pretend it doesn't exist.


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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Comfort over lives XD. Hospitals here are accepting new patients at record breaking pace, this goes beyond just COVID.

MLP avatar checks out.

Are hospitals admitting more covid patients recently? I know there's more cases recently, but I wasn't aware that hospitals were taking in more people. Can you provide a source? I'm interested in reading it.

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NightMarishPie posted...

Are hospitals admitting more covid patients recently? I know there's more cases recently, but I wasn't aware that hospitals were taking in more people. Can you provide a source? I'm interested in reading it.

Some states are. Arizona and Texas have increased hospitalization rates. I think Florida does too.

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hockeybub89 posted...

I admit I am worried about what these protests could do to the spread. We shouldn't ignore one tragedy to address another. The protesters are just one subset of people though and it's like everyone forgot there was a pandemic and I fear nothing will shut down again even if things keep getting worse again.

We're paying the price for not addressing this on a national scale. We can open most things while also actually enforcing social distancing everywhere, but I guess that wouldn't make all the money, so the government and businesses are against it.

Our country is learning nothing from this pandemic except the quickest ways to pretend it doesn't exist.

If people truly forgot, they wouldn't be wearing masks. I think people see police brutality as an issue that's worth it to fight right now.

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Takuya Lee posted...

I think Florida does too.

it's exploding down in cases down there. in oregon today it's 101 cases. 2 deaths (number of cases going down again but doesn't help with active spreaders).
multnomah and marion having the most (30 and 22) cases for the highest ones.
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NightMarishPie posted...

Are hospitals admitting more covid patients recently? I know there's more cases recently, but I wasn't aware that hospitals were taking in more people. Can you provide a source? I'm interested in reading it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-texas-records-hospitalization-peak-but-reopening-continues-2020-6

Right now there's some cushion in states like Texas and Arizona, but there's legitimate concern that they could run out of available hospital beds in another month.

Brazil President Vetoes Bill Banning Evictions During Pandemic
https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/brazil/bolsonaro-vetoes-bill-to-ban-evictions-during-pandemic/

United States had its lowest daily death total since March 26th

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kingdrake2 posted...

it's exploding in cases within florida. in oregon today it's 101 cases. 2 deaths (number of cases going down again but doesn't help with active spreaders).
multnomah and marion having the most (30 and 22) cases for the highest ones.

Nevada it was 227 with 1 death. Positive test percentage went down slightly and is at 5.3% the spikes in my state have corresponded with increased testing. Hospitalization remains stable and we only have 3 or less deaths per day. I think we're getting more of either the asymptomatic or mild cases that don't require hospitalization here I just wish the news would report that part of it instead of lumping us in with Arizona, Texas, and Florida..

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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil President Vetoes Bill Banning Evictions During Pandemic
https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/brazil/bolsonaro-vetoes-bill-to-ban-evictions-during-pandemic/

I feel the pain.

I see a different scenario for renters coming in US and hope I am wrong. There is all of this stimulus money for businesses. I think owners of apartment buildings are planning to use stimulus money to remodel and all renters will have to move whether or not they have been paying rent.

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My county jumped over 400 cases from Friday to Saturday. 1 out of every 43 people or so have had it. We will reach New York City levels probably next week at this rate. Hopefully it means that since so many people have had it, the spread slows down. At my dialysis clinic we looking at about 14% of our patients have had it. Herd immunity here we come

Takuya Lee posted...

If people truly forgot, they wouldn't be wearing masks. I think people see police brutality as an issue that's worth it to fight right now.

But most people don't appear to be wearing masks anywhere. We can and should continue to protest and demand more from our country that fails us, but we can do it from a safe distance. Two birds with one stone. If only the powers that be actually gave a fuck and enforced social distancing everywhere and made sure real masks were available to everyone, instead of half assing a response and giving us self-masturbatory "now more than ever" bullshit.

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CobraGT posted...

I feel the pain.

I see a different scenario for renters coming in US and hope I am wrong. There is all of this stimulus money for businesses. I think owners of apartment buildings are planning to use stimulus money to remodel and all renters will have to move whether or not they have been paying rent.

I'm hoping there is a second stimulus check I could use the free money. As of right now doesn't seem Senate will pass it within the next 3 weeks.

RIPVyseCity posted...

My county jumped over 400 cases from Friday to Saturday. 1 out of every 43 people or so have had it. We will reach New York City levels probably next week at this rate. Hopefully it means that since so many people have had it, the spread slows down. At my dialysis clinic we looking at about 14% of our patients have had it. Herd immunity here we come

NY numbers in early April was 7k-10k cases and 700-1k deaths a day. I don't think any other state has even averaged 5k confirmed cases over the course of a week since this started. That would suck if your area becomes the next NY. I'm in NYC probably hardest hit area in country. I found out a couple weeks ago 10 people in my building died from corona. If I hadn't overheard a couple people discussing it wouldn't have known. They were mad Landlord didn't say anything. I didn't notice they died since I barely left my apt over last 3 months.

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Arizona Governor Won't Require Mask Use as Coronavirus Cases Spike, Says People Need to 'Learn to Live' With Virus
https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-governor-wont-require-mask-use-coronavirus-cases-spike-says-people-need-learn-live-1510713

NYC mayor fires back at Cuomos threat to shut down Manhattan over social distancing
https://nypost.com/2020/06/14/de-blasio-fires-back-at-cuomos-threat-to-shut-down-manhattan-again/

Penn State will resume in-person classes in late August
https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2020/06/penn-state-will-resume-in-person-classes-in-late-august-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-but-will-break-in-november.html


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DundiesAward posted...

Arizona Governor Won't Require Mask Use as Coronavirus Cases Spike, Says People Need to 'Learn to Live' With Virus
https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-governor-wont-require-mask-use-coronavirus-cases-spike-says-people-need-learn-live-1510713

Learning to live with it would mean adjusting to it, you dumb fuck governor. This is "learning to live as if it doesn't exist".

I hate this world.

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this is probably a dumb question is there a site that can exclude specific places when looking at covid 19 data over the last few months? people say that the cases in the u.s. are going down but isn't that mainly because the cases in the tristate area are going down but everywhere else is going up?

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DundiesAward posted...

United States had its lowest daily death total since March 26th

Reported deaths are always lowest on Sundays. So I'm not reading into that too much. However, it does seem like deaths have decreased at a greater proportion compared to number of cases. Is it possible that the virus really has weakened a bit as some have speculated? Maybe just wishful thinking but that would be great if it were the case.

_Sazando_ posted...

this is probably a dumb question is there a site that can exclude specific places when looking at covid 19 data over the last few months? people say that the cases in the u.s. are going down but isn't that mainly because the cases in the tristate area are going down but everywhere else is going up?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The website in the OP has a lot of great information. Im not quite sure if this is what youre looking for, but you can break it down by cases by day and look at the graphs showing a breakdown of cases since the beginning.

_Sazando_ posted...

this is probably a dumb question is there a site that can exclude specific places when looking at covid 19 data over the last few months? people say that the cases in the u.s. are going down but isn't that mainly because the cases in the tristate area are going down but everywhere else is going up?

The reason total US cases has remained fairly steady is because cases have dropped quite a bit in former hotspots like the Northeast and Illinois. At the same time they're increasing in several states (most notably California, Arizona, North Carolina, Texas, and Florida).

hockeybub89 posted...

Learning to live with it would mean adjusting to it, you dumb fuck governor. This is "learning to live as if it doesn't exist".

I hate this world.

He needs to be injected with the virus. Practice what he preaches.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1272584948369801218

On a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked are we

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Tired-Insomniac posted...

On a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked are we

Depends. How fucked was Sweden when they didn't lock down at all?

Tired-Insomniac posted...

On a scale of 1 to 10 how fucked are we

Tbh, I think we are completely fucked. I don't think we will be able to make an effective vaccine for it. Society in poorer countries will start to collapse first. Looting and violence will start. Eventually richer countries will start to collapse as well.

I've been following this virus since mid January and have been saying then that I think this going to get really bad. I really hope I'm just being a doomer but my gut feeling hasn't been wrong about this so far.

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Think of your four closest friends. At least two of them will be dead from coronavirus in a year.

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MuayThai85 posted...

Tbh, I think we are completely fucked. I don't think we will be able to make an effective vaccine for it. Society in poorer countries will start to collapse first. Looting and violence will start. Eventually richer countries will start to collapse as well.

I've been following this virus since mid January and have been saying then that I think this going to get really bad. I really hope I'm just being a doomer but my gut feeling hasn't been wrong about this so far.

Lol cmon man

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ThunderTrain posted...

Lol cmon man

When I was saying back in January that this shit was going to spread globally and start killing a lot of people, people were like you made similar replies.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong but think about it objectively. If we can't find an effective way to fight the virus (via vaccine or proven medication), what are we going to do once it starts spreading uncontrollably pretty much everywhere? Sure, some countries will do a better job because of restrictions they'll put in place but that isn't guaranteed to work either.

What happens if the US has to shut down again. How long can people truly go for without being able to work and shit? On top of that, how long can the US afford to keep giving tens of millions, maybe even over a hundred million people money every month till they run out of money?

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MuayThai85 posted...

Tbh, I think we are completely fucked. I don't think we will be able to make an effective vaccine for it. Society in poorer countries will start to collapse first. Looting and violence will start. Eventually richer countries will start to collapse as well.

I've been following this virus since mid January and have been saying then that I think this going to get really bad. I really hope I'm just being a doomer but my gut feeling hasn't been wrong about this so far.

its not that you are a doomer, its that you are (either consciously or subconsciously) trying to stop people from protesting with this line of thought. Trying to scare people into stopping protests for something that is necessary is not okay.

Bleuets posted...

its not that you are a doomer, its that you are (either consciously or subconsciously) trying to stop people from protesting with this line of thought. Trying to scare people into stopping protests for something that is necessary is not okay.

The fuck? What does the current protests have anything to do with what I was saying January? I support the protests, I'm even not angry at the riots (looters can go fuck off though) but do I think these protests have potential to cause a massive increase of cases? Abso-fucking-lutely and you'd have to be insane not to.

But when it comes down to it, my opinion of what is going to happen with the virus predates the protests and doesn't change whether they were happening or not.

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You honestly think this is going to end the entire world? Thats just lol

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Bullet_Wing posted...

This goes double for our idiot president having packed rallies in enclosed spaces. At least the protests have a good intention behind them.

Tbh, I hope a lot of people at those rallies get covid. It's completely deserved. Sadly they'll kill some people who don't support their idiocy.


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ThunderTrain posted...

You honestly think this is going to end the entire world? Thats just lol

It's definitely going to cause a massive paradigm shift in the way the world will operate. If a vaccine/effective medicine isn't found and it turns out you can be reinfected with the virus, it definitely has the potential to cause society to collapse.

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Sad how people are still in denial about the virus.

MuayThai85 posted...

It's definitely going to cause a massive paradigm shift in the way the world will operate. If a vaccine/effective medicine isn't found and it turns out you can be reinfected with the virus, it definitely has the potential to cause society to collapse.

I think it will definitely change some aspects of our society but society as a whole wont collapse.

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Awesome posted...

Sad how people are still in denial about the virus.

Like I've told everyone I know, I hope I'm wrong but I haven't been so far and there are just way too many unknowns to think we will be able to handle this with little or no permanent damage to the global economy.

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ThunderTrain posted...

I think it will definitely change some aspects of our society but society as a whole wont collapse.

But just imagine if we never find an effective way to fight the virus, how do you think the world would move on? Will we just have to accept that we are going to kill our friends and family because we have no choice but to continue on as if the virus was just the flu but has a much higher chance of kill you? It will become the #1 cause of death globally by an extremely large margin.

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The world has survived pandemics before. Yes, this will set the economy and governments back, but life will go on.