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Mecha Sonic
05/31/20 6:55:59 PM
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then you're part of the problem

If you're even *equally* angry about the riots as you are about the public lynching of a Black man, then you're fucking part of the problem.

MLK talked about those who are more devoted to order than to justice; who prefer the absence of tension to the presence of justice; who feel they can set the timetable for another person's freedom. He also called riots "the language of the unheard". He said this 54 years ago.

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spudger
05/31/20 6:56:38 PM
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dude, there's a reason they are like that

and we all know what it is

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Roxborough4Ever
05/31/20 6:56:46 PM
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somebody telling ME what i should be outraged about? nah....YOU are the problem....

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monkmith
05/31/20 6:57:07 PM
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i'm sorry, i cant hear your message over the sound of all the rioting!

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Blightzkrieg
05/31/20 6:58:09 PM
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And yet none of these protesters did a thing when blacks were going thrown out of their lodgings in China a couple months ago.

Have we considered the possibility that China is the problem in this instance?

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EricDraven59
05/31/20 6:58:14 PM
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p-m
05/31/20 6:58:50 PM
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MLK got killed because he wanted to unite the exploited of all races against their oppressor, the rich.

Damn good man.

I absolutely know that there is institutional racism in the police of the USA and of other countries like my own, but other groups in society feel the force of police brutality. The mentally ill and homeless are seen as enemies

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Irony
05/31/20 6:59:30 PM
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Can't hear you over rioters nearly beating a man to death with rocks and a skateboard

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Guns_of_Verdun
05/31/20 7:00:01 PM
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I noticed this

People are like "Oh he died? That's a shame."

"WTF YOU BROKE A WINDOW!? POPEYES IS GONE!? A FLAG IS ON FIRE? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?"

Society values objects more than certain people.

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DarkKitsune69
05/31/20 7:00:36 PM
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This topic is new and innovative, a modern day free thinker

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monkmith
05/31/20 7:00:40 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I noticed this

People are like "Oh he died? That's a shame."

"WTF YOU BROKE A WINDOW!? POPEYES IS GONE!? A FLAG IS ON FIRE? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?"

Society values objects more than certain people.
spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...

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Toedysseus
05/31/20 7:01:02 PM
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These people are full aware that they are part of the problem. Don't be blinded by whatever 'justice' 'common sense' or 'they deserved it' rhetoric they spew. They are completely aware they're the bad guys, for the most part.

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scorpion41
05/31/20 7:02:30 PM
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What if Im not happy with either? I dont agree with Floyd being killed, but I also dont agree with destroying innocent peoples property and livelihoods. Rioters are doing the crooked cops jobs for them and painting everyone as a criminal. Dont become the thing you hate.

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MARKINGRAM22
05/31/20 7:03:18 PM
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monkmith posted...
spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...

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monkmith
05/31/20 7:03:56 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
What if Im not happy with either? I dont agree with Floyd being killed, but I also dont agree with destroying innocent peoples property and livelihoods. Rioters are doing the crooked cops jobs for them and painting everyone as a criminal. Dont become the thing you hate.
nope. at this point if you dont pick a side then both sides join together against you...

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Guns_of_Verdun
05/31/20 7:05:53 PM
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monkmith posted...
spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...
I'd rather my house burn down than people die dude

My house can be rebuilt. The dead cannot

This is the mentality I don't get. Objects are not more important than people, the loss of life should be what horrifies you, not flags and buildings/

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PokemonYoutube
05/31/20 7:07:01 PM
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One man lost his life because of a crooked cop, but how many more people might as well have lost their lives because everything they had was destroyed? And how many will lose their lives due to, I dunno, the deadly virus that's on the loose right now and which will certainly spread like wildfire among the rioting vandals?
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monkmith
05/31/20 7:07:18 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I'd rather my house burn down than people die dude

My house can be rebuilt. The dead cannot

This is the mentality I don't get. Objects are not more important than people, the loss of life should be what horrifies you, not flags and buildings/
so you're in full support of randomly destroying other peoples lives then? says a lot about you...

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Antifar
05/31/20 7:08:51 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
One man lost his life because of a crooked cop

This is not just about one man
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Guns_of_Verdun
05/31/20 7:09:03 PM
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monkmith posted...
so you're in full support of randomly destroying other peoples lives then?

No

I said why are people more angry at flags and buildings being destroyed than human lives

And you said because you value buildings you like more.

Which is something I can't comprehend. It's so utterly devoid of empathy and morality.

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monkmith
05/31/20 7:10:17 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
No

I said why are people more angry at flags and buildings being destroyed than human lives

And you said because you value buildings you like more.

Which is something I can't comprehend. It's so utterly devoid of empathy and morality.
ah, so we're just making shit up now huh? got to validate your beliefs somehow i guess.

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ColdOne666
05/31/20 7:10:26 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
What if Im not happy with either? I dont agree with Floyd being killed, but I also dont agree with destroying innocent peoples property and livelihoods. Rioters are doing the crooked cops jobs for them and painting everyone as a criminal. Dont become the thing you hate.


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DarkProto05
05/31/20 7:10:44 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
One man lost his life because of a crooked cop, but how many more people might as well have lost their lives because everything they had was destroyed? And how many will lose their lives due to, I dunno, the deadly virus that's on the loose right now and which will certainly spread like wildfire among the rioting vandals?
Its about sending a message so this doesnt happen again.

If someone destroys your property you conservatives wouldnt think its just one house let me spare his life. Youd fucking kill them. All of you are backwards ass.

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Guns_of_Verdun
05/31/20 7:11:29 PM
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monkmith posted...
ah, so we're just making shit up now huh? got to validate your beliefs somehow i guess.
monkmith posted...
Guns_of_Verdun posted...

I noticed this

People are like "Oh he died? That's a shame."

"WTF YOU BROKE A WINDOW!? POPEYES IS GONE!? A FLAG IS ON FIRE? WHAT THE f*** IS WRONG WITH YOU!?"

Society values objects more than certain people.

spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...


You going to backpedal and go "Well what I actually mean was...."?

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ncsonic
05/31/20 7:11:31 PM
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Beautiful you just summed it perfectly.

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monkmith
05/31/20 7:12:38 PM
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Guns_of_Verdun posted...
You going to backpedal and go "Well what I actually mean was...."?
well i mean what i actually said was...

monkmith posted...
spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...


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Guns_of_Verdun
05/31/20 7:16:57 PM
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So you're not saying I'm wrong, you're just saying I'd change my mind if my property was burned down and I'd start valuing objects over lives?

Thats the worst backpedal I've seen in months...

And it doesn't even make sense, the guys outraged over things but not people dying didn't have their house burned down either...

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ultimate reaver
05/31/20 7:21:04 PM
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shocking to see a tepid do-nothing liberal settle on "BuT BoTh SiDeS ArE MeAn"

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PokemonYoutube
05/31/20 7:24:20 PM
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DarkProto05 posted...
Its about sending a message so this doesnt happen again.

If someone destroys your property you conservatives wouldnt think its just one house let me spare his life. Youd fucking kill them. All of you are backwards ass.
Yeah, I'm sure rampaging hordes of black people destroying everything in sight will make police officers feel more at ease when dealing with black people in the future.

Destroying a Target and stealing expensive TV's isn't protesting. Destroying a family restaurant and stealing their safe isn't protesting. Destroying a pharmacy and stealing medicine isn't protesting. It's crime and should be punished as such.

I'm just trying to live out my life on this miserable rock in relative peace and quiet. So I don't need people messing with my shit. I don't believe in all that happy-go-lucky "we can save everyone and bring about world peace" bullshit. The world is fucked and I'm only looking out for myself and the people I hold dear. I leave people and their stuff the fuck alone, so I expect people to leave me and my stuff the fuck alone. Doesn't seem like too much to ask.
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DarkProto05
05/31/20 7:24:46 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
somebody telling ME what i should be outraged about? nah....YOU are the problem....
Were telling you how to feel because youre wrong.

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ThanksUglyGod
05/31/20 7:25:07 PM
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"All cops are bad"
"It's just a few bad apples"

*some "protestors" destroy property*
"THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT IS TRASH!"
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PokemonYoutube
05/31/20 7:28:12 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
"All cops are bad"
"It's just a few bad apples"

*some "protestors" destroy property*
"THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT IS TRASH!"
I'm fine with the peaceful protests. I agree that there should be consequences if a cop kills someone for no good reason. They're not supposed to be judge, jury and executioner. They're just supposed to bring the suspect in so the legal system can do its work. But the rioting, looting, vandalism and outright destruction that's going on right now is way out of line and should be dealt with appropriately IMO.
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ThanksUglyGod
05/31/20 7:30:34 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
I'm fine with the peaceful protests. I agree that there should be consequences if a cop kills someone for no good reason. They're not supposed to be judge, jury and executioner. They're just supposed to bring the suspect in so the legal system can do its work. But the rioting, looting, vandalism and outright destruction that's going on right now is way out of line and should be dealt with appropriately IMO.
How though? How can anyone prevent riots from occurring?
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Arcanine2009
05/31/20 7:32:29 PM
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I'm more upset about the vandalism and looting and don't think it has much to do with the movement, but that a small minority of people are just taking advantage of. COVID-19 isn't making things easier though and has made 40 million americane file for unemployment.

That and walking on freeways and blocking streets completely. It's been good otherwise

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TazMan2313
05/31/20 7:36:32 PM
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monkmith posted...
spoken like a man who's not had his house burnt down yet...

Spoken like a man who has not been discriminated against or denied basic human rights based on the race he was born, mistreated by those meant to protect you, and then had it justified by the General public and the powers that be.

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Antifar
05/31/20 7:37:56 PM
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There were two Reigns of Terror, if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the horrors of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terrorthat unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


I think about this Mark Twain quote a lot.
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ChocoboMog123
05/31/20 7:38:13 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
Yeah, I'm sure rampaging hordes of black people destroying everything in sight will make police officers feel more at ease when dealing with black people in the future.
It's not just black people protesting. A lot of the people destroying stuff are from outside of those communities.
And even as people are protesting against police violence, the police are abusing their power to enact violence - not just against rioters, but against peaceful protestors, reporters, and people not even involved with the protests.

Maybe if you want the riots to stop, the police should stop attacking citizens.

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PokemonYoutube
05/31/20 7:40:00 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
How though? How can anyone prevent riots from occurring?
Beat down the riot by force and hope it scares the populace enough to not do it again. Or at least make sure that the consequences for the rioters are so impactful that they'll think twice about doing it again. It's not pretty, but it's the only way I can think of.
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Darmik
05/31/20 7:44:53 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
Beat down the riot by force and hope it scares the populace enough to not do it again. Or at least make sure that the consequences for the rioters are so impactful that they'll think twice about doing it again. It's not pretty, but it's the only way I can think of.

How did that work out for Hong Kong?

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monkmith
05/31/20 7:48:02 PM
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TazMan2313 posted...
Spoken like a man who has not been discriminated against or denied basic human rights based on the race he was born, mistreated by those meant to protect you, and then had it justified by the General public and the powers that be.


whatever you need to justify destroying some random persons life.

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yemmy
05/31/20 7:50:14 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
What if Im not happy with either? I dont agree with Floyd being killed, but I also dont agree with destroying innocent peoples property and livelihoods. Rioters are doing the crooked cops jobs for them and painting everyone as a criminal. Dont become the thing you hate.

Exactly.

But no if you don't agree with the riots on CE then you are a bootlicking racist POS who supports Donald Trump. If you say you don't support Donald Trump you are lying.

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PG_Era
05/31/20 7:51:59 PM
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yemmy posted...
Exactly.

But no if you don't agree with the riots on CE then you are a bootlicking racist POS who supports Donald Trump. If you say you don't support Donald Trump you are lying.

This this this.

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umax555
05/31/20 7:54:01 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
shocking to see a tepid do-nothing liberal settle on "BuT BoTh SiDeS ArE MeAn"

Or maybe they're just smart enough to realize that things aren't so black and white?
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Dusk_
05/31/20 7:55:54 PM
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It's almost like you can support the cause and not want to see looting and destruction.

You wanna destroy shit, go to the city hall or police stations. There is no justice in looting innocent peoples businesses.

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tainted_emerald
05/31/20 7:55:56 PM
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PokemonYoutube posted...
Beat down the riot by force and hope it scares the populace enough to not do it again. Or at least make sure that the consequences for the rioters are so impactful that they'll think twice about doing it again. It's not pretty, but it's the only way I can think of.
Wow, my mind instantly went to changing policy so that cops are treated with real scrutiny and are actually penalized when they do shit.

But, no, your idea is a real fucking winner. You know, if your aim is more destruction and the problem continuing to exist.

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GATTJT
05/31/20 7:57:38 PM
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monkmith posted...


whatever you need to justify destroying some random persons life.
And what justifies kneeling on a man's neck until he dies? What justifies police doing a no knock raid on a house and killing someone because they were looking for someone who was already in custody? What justifies chasing a black man down and shooting him because you thought he was a thief?

These are 3 of countless injustices perpetrated by police against minorities. This was a powder keg waiting to explode, and it is the fault of those in power.

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ChocoboMog123
05/31/20 7:58:13 PM
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yemmy posted...


Exactly.

But no if you don't agree with the riots on CE then you are a bootlicking racist POS who supports Donald Trump. If you say you don't support Donald Trump you are lying.
You don't have to agree with the riots, but if you don't support the protestors or you support the police who are still actively abusing their power, then you are in support of an authoritarian state and supporting racial violence. Yes.

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TazMan2313
05/31/20 7:59:19 PM
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monkmith posted...


whatever you need to justify destroying some random persons life.
Not justifying anything. Am just saying that a life and rights are way more valuable than property. And as someone who has not experienced the same issues that a black man or woman has experienced in regards to this topic, you're not necessarily in a position to speak on said value. I

However I will say that what is happening now is beyond what was intended and dilutes the message. Which was the point of the provocateurs to begin with. And now more people are upset and focusing on the riots and the destruction, vs the issue we really were trying to address. It's sad really.

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Dusk_
05/31/20 8:00:56 PM
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GATTJT posted...
And what justifies kneeling on a man's neck until he dies? What justifies police doing a no knock raid on a house and killing someone because they were looking for someone who was already in custody? What justifies chasing a black man down and shooting him because you thought he was a thief?

These are 3 of countless injustices perpetrated by police against minorities. This was a powder keg waiting to explode, and it is the fault of those in power.

Well one of those situations wasn't by police.. shows ignorant you are.

2nd.. those in power? So go after town hall, police. Those with the power. Going after people who have nothing to with it isn't justice.

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